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Old 08-17-2012, 05:16 PM
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I'm not convinced on Another Moon, but it's definitely true for Mountain of Trials.
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Old 08-17-2012, 08:52 PM
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Holy crap that thing is creepy!


IT SEES INTO YOUR SOOOUUUL!!!
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Old 08-17-2012, 09:16 PM
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Whenever I hear Another Moon I always forget its not a FFVIII song.
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Old 08-17-2012, 09:16 PM
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Yep. 190 MP, once and forever. (You can waste Soma Drops on him in other versions of the game, but why would you?)
Nope! If you level him high enough (like, level 80 and up) he does start to gain MP after a while. At level 99 he has something like 220 or so MP.

I mean, not that you'd ever get to that point naturally (unless you're either insane or have a Game Genie handy) but it's a thing that happens.
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:15 PM
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Whether "praying" got written down as "wishing" as the result of censorship or the consistently awful translation is a mystery for the ages.


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I was pretty surprised when I read Hummingways are supposed to look like rabbit people.
Only in the DS remake. In the original, between their shaggy cheeks and the fact that the GBA version adds a long tail to Namingway's portrait, they're more like cat people.





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Whenever I hear Another Moon I always forget its not a FFVIII song.
Right?
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:36 PM
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In the original game I always thought that Namingway looked like a minotaur in a sombrero.
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Old 08-17-2012, 11:14 PM
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I can see Namingway being a rabbit from that portrait. The ears are long enough for it if you consider the turban's positioning; you're only seeing the tops of their ears.

Besides, lunar rabbits are hardly anything new to Japanese storytelling.
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Old 08-17-2012, 11:25 PM
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The outermost pixel of the magic icon is transparent, so it will look different depending on what the battle backdrop is.

See also.
Ah. That's pretty interesting. Many thanks to both you and Sky Render.
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Old 08-17-2012, 11:33 PM
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And the GBA portrait just seems like someone hilariously misinterpreted the original sprite to me. The portrait is only of his upper torso, so it doesn't even make sense to include a tail there at all.



That pink and white thing at the bottom is an open book, not what seems to be a skirt in FFIVA. The thing that turned into a tail was originally Namingway's left hand. They just removed the right hand too, since I guess they thought it was a whisker.
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Old 08-18-2012, 12:08 AM
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Can we not obsess over stupid little details trying to reconcile what this character is and just agree that it's a bad design?
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Old 08-18-2012, 12:13 AM
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I always used to think that Namingway was just a fat kid wearing some weird turban-hat hybrid.

And it didn't occur to me just now that the Namingway in each town might have been meant to be a descendant of the original Namingway who left the moon, rather than one guy who runs from town to town to town faster than the party can fly (or teleport.)
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Old 08-18-2012, 12:19 AM
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Can we not obsess over stupid little details trying to reconcile what this character is and just agree that it's a bad design?
Turban cat is good design.
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Old 08-18-2012, 12:59 AM
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CREEPY HORRIBLE MOON ROCK CLOWN FACE.
Galle's Smile
(also wrong celestial body)
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Old 08-18-2012, 01:41 AM
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Tonight a wizard died in Mysidia.
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Old 08-18-2012, 02:37 AM
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Maybe there's a tenious Namingway relationship to THIS (something I scrawled out of mash potatoes, i don't know what it means):



And then a voice said "When you understand namingway, you understand god."

Speaking of which, i jumped the gun awhile back, but now that FuSoYa has been introduced, his Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy inspiration (TV 1981):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPWnitDyIOw
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Old 08-18-2012, 03:21 AM
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Nope! If you level him high enough (like, level 80 and up) he does start to gain MP after a while. At level 99 he has something like 220 or so MP.

I mean, not that you'd ever get to that point naturally (unless you're either insane or have a Game Genie handy) but it's a thing that happens.
i.e. Once you hit the level where the stat boosts become random?
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Old 08-18-2012, 09:18 AM
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that sure is a watermark
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Old 08-18-2012, 11:17 AM
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Unus nasce e dracone.

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Even leaving aside the mild Engrish that was so popular back in 1991, there's a small goof in the dialogue here. Can you spot it?

The way FuSoYa words his introduction, anyone listening would think he is guarding the slumber of an individual entity named "Lunarian". Rosa, who had never heard the term before, would therefore phrase her question as "Who is Lunarian?" rather than "Who are the Lunarians?"
Brickroad, were you never taught the difference between "apostrophe s" and "s apostrophe"?

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...the casting time on Meteo is so outrageously long that it's impossible to use without purposely waiting for it to go off.
I always found Nuke or Bahamut to be better when I wanted to do a lot of damage really quickly (and not worry about elemental affinities). I also remembered noticing that Nuke came out faster as I cast it more often (of course that also might have been because Rydia was gaining levels).

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Bahamut's AI is really simple: he counts down from 5, then throws MegaNuke at you, at which point you die. The only way to win is to have Rosa and FuSoYa apply Wall to your party so MegaNuke bounces back, facilitating a kind of scary space dragon suicide.

Even with two Wall-casters working full time, it's impossible to actually get everyone protected before the counter runs down. (Well, maybe not impossible if one of them is Haste'd, but then you have to waste a Wall turn casting Haste instead, which is counter-productive.)
I vaguely remember thinking that Wall ran out more quickly when it was cast on Cecil (for some reason). So I always cast it on him last. Also I think I usually saved the Spoon for Bahamut.
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Old 08-18-2012, 11:37 AM
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Brickroad, were you never taught the difference between "apostrophe s" and "s apostrophe"?
Say the line out loud.
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Old 08-18-2012, 11:51 AM
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Say the line out loud.
Regardless of whether you say it outloud or read it silently, "Lunarians' slumber" means "the slumber of multiple Lunarians."

Even when I played this as a 9 year old, I thought it was pretty clear at the time because of:

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the difference between "apostrophe s" and "s apostrophe"
It's still an awkward translation though, due to the dropped "the."
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Old 08-18-2012, 11:54 AM
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Regardless of whether you say it outloud or read it silently, "Lunarians' slumber" means "the slumber of multiple Lunarians."
No, see, the point is, Rosa isn't reading it silently. She's listening to FuSoYa say it out loud. Unless he pronounces "Lunarians'" as "Lunarianses", she can't tell the difference.
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Old 08-18-2012, 12:46 PM
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No, see, the point is, Rosa isn't reading it silently. She's listening to FuSoYa say it out loud. Unless he pronounces "Lunarians'" as "Lunarianses", she can't tell the difference.
Wait, that's not how you say it?

Jesuseses.
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Old 08-18-2012, 12:47 PM
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The Lunarianses, precioussss...
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Old 08-18-2012, 04:45 PM
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Galle's Smile
(also wrong celestial body)
Who moons the Lunarians?

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Speaking of which, i jumped the gun awhile back, but now that FuSoYa has been introduced, his Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy inspiration (TV 1981):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPWnitDyIOw
Now that FFII and other fantasy works have given us a gauntlet of old white dudes with long beards, they need to start giving us middle aged Indian men with long nails. We need a proper throwdown to see if KARATE, NINJA, EVIL or even BEARD can stand up to the power of NAILS.





(If you know where to look, you can seen them overcome the power of JACKASS.)

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Old 08-18-2012, 06:58 PM
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ship this to square-enix:
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Old 08-18-2012, 07:00 PM
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ship this to square-enix:
i would play this so much
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Old 08-18-2012, 07:24 PM
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Keep that horrifying shit out of here, huh?
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Old 08-20-2012, 08:50 AM
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Ahh... cinematic! MODE 7 FUCK YEAH!!
This got me when I got this game for Christmas 1991 and got to this point...about a few weeks later? Anyway, I just kept going back and forth between the moon and the blue planet just because that animation was so awesome.

Believe it or not, this is a problem I have with the (erm, hypothetical) DS version of this game - the cinematic just shows you approaching the moon/Blue Planet, not the start where you actually lift off of where you started. Though it's almost worth it for Edge thinking to himself, "From here, the planet looks perfectly round!" Take that, flat-earthers!

Ah, and I also pretty much beat Bahamut by beating the crap out of him before he finished his countdown. I wasn't too much on this 'strategy' thing when I was a kid.

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Old 08-20-2012, 11:24 AM
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Though it's almost worth it for Edge thinking to himself, "From here, the planet looks perfectly round!" Take that, flat-earthers!
Obligatory "world is torus-shaped" comment goes here
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:28 AM
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Obligatory "world is torus-shaped" comment goes here
Don't be silly. Everyone knows the world is square.
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