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Old 02-14-2011, 08:46 PM
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Appropriately enough, the Black Sword is called Deathbringer in later translations.

Maybe we should keep a running tally of how often Cecil and the party's plans backfire or fail due to unexpected circumstances.
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Old 02-14-2011, 08:58 PM
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The War at Fabul, or whatever it is properly called, is one of my favorite parts of this game, mostly for nostalgia reasons. The first time I got here I was playing at my friend's house, and when they took away my healers we both were like "Crap, we're going to die!" Then waves of enemies started piling on us without breaks, and we practically screamed "We're Going to DIE!" (keep in mind we were RPG rookies and weren't exactly flush with CURE1s, levels or confidence).

Do then we did the only logical thing: We started singing.

♪♪ We're gonna die! Die Die Diiie. Die Die Diiiiiiiiiiiiiiie! ♪♪*

Even though this segment is far from hard for me now, I can't not sing the "Die Song" while playing it.




Brick, dude, I've always appreciated your (totally deserved) reverence for Golbez as a villain. He's one of the best, totally evil, totally powerful Big Bads ever in video games.


*EDIT: Not the same song, but now I think of this, too.

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Old 02-14-2011, 09:23 PM
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There are actually two sounds that can be onomatopoetically represented as "achoo." One of them is, as you say, a sneeze. The other is the sound made by a Bruce Lee when he kicks someone in the face or other body part.
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Old 02-14-2011, 09:27 PM
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I believe the preferred emoticon here is \m/
Jesus. I typo'd an emoticon. Surely this is a new low.
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Old 02-14-2011, 09:28 PM
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Jesus. I typo'd an emoticon. Surely this is a new low.
Those keys are nowhere near each other!
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Old 02-14-2011, 09:46 PM
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Personally, I find Golbez's reasons for being a bad guy to be a bit weak. That said, once he's got the job, it cannot be denied that he does his work with panache. He must come from good stock.
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Old 02-14-2011, 10:05 PM
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I prefer to think that its because Fabuls health care system is based around applying karate to wounds and infected areas.

And nobody saw the disadvantage to this plan.
Hey, it worked in FFT. Yang is just too badass to rely on the likes of Chakra.

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No, Baron went to war. They haven't declared war since the annexation of Mist.
Annexation of Mist? There was nothing left to annex! Also, funnily enough, you can revisit Mist later in the game when you have an airship and it looks like nothing's happened. Also, no Baron soldiers are there.
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Old 02-14-2011, 10:19 PM
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Oh my God.

All my life, I've seen the fabulous Fabulians as soldiers wearing tan helmets and shoulderguards, like football players.

Only now, with the blown-up screenshots, do I realize that they're shirtless monks with dots on their bald heads.

Oh my God.

It could only get more mind-shattering if you told me that Yang's pants had happy faces all over them. But they don't, because his Nintendo Power artwork shows him clearly wearing blue horseriding pants.
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Old 02-14-2011, 10:44 PM
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Also, funnily enough, you can revisit Mist later in the game when you have an airship and it looks like nothing's happened. Also, no Baron soldiers are there.
I love that you find treasure in mist that's on par with what you'd expect at the very start of the game.
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Oh my God.
!!!
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Old 02-14-2011, 10:49 PM
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man, Zef, that is just weird. you're weird!!
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Old 02-14-2011, 10:53 PM
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Oh my God.
But what are the dots on their heads?


And don't tell me their the beginnings of ponytails. Why would there be four of them then!??
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Old 02-14-2011, 10:55 PM
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But what are the dots on their heads?


And don't tell me their the beginnings of ponytails. Why would there be four of them then!??
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Old 02-14-2011, 10:57 PM
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yeah, they're totally Krillin Dots.*

*technical term
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Old 02-14-2011, 11:21 PM
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That's exactly what I was thinking.
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Old 02-14-2011, 11:36 PM
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I caught on pretty quickly, but I was in the same boat as Zef the first time I played this game. It didn't look like the Fabul guys should just have bald heads because that makes their melons freakishly gigantic.


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I love the Yang Rap.


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Upthread Kishi mentioned how Edward's class in the original Japanese version was "Royalty", rather than "Bard". Later English versions of the game translate this as "Prince". This is another case, though, where I think FF2's unique translation nailed it to the wall: Edward presents himself as a Bard, first and foremost, and that is his essential role in the plot. Though he does not rejoin the party, Edward is far from finished aiding Cecil in his quest. His crowning achievement is yet to come, and there's nothing princely about it.

(And yes, one of my sub-goals with this LP is to antagonize Kishi as much as possible.
I don't recall how the Japanese WSC/GBA/DS versions of FFIV handled it, but the PlayStation port did change his job to "Bard." So, there you go.


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There are actually two sounds that can be onomatopoetically represented as "achoo." One of them is, as you say, a sneeze. The other is the sound made by a Bruce Lee when he kicks someone in the face or other body part.
Yeah. The answer to "Haha, why is that karate man sneezing?!" is that he isn't. "Achoooo" is an extension of "acho."
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Old 02-14-2011, 11:40 PM
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Forget the horse-riding pants, why is NP Yang wearing pink Crocs?!

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It's no secret that His Royal Spooniness isn't exactly tearing it up during combat, but anyone who comes down too hard on the guy should be politely reminded that he is lightning quick with the plot crutches.
JRPG royals fucking love exposition.
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Old 02-14-2011, 11:43 PM
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I love the Yang Rap.
Egad. I don't think I'll ever be able to read that line again without hearing a terrible 90's rap soundtrack playing in my head.
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Old 02-15-2011, 12:11 AM
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Egad. I don't think I'll ever be able to read that line again without hearing a terrible 90's rap soundtrack playing in my head.
It was Fabul, born and raised
Mt. Hobs is where I spent most of my days
Trainin' to fight and relaxin' all cool
Practicing Karate upside on a fool
When a couple of Bombs, they were up to no good
Started killing folks in my neighborhood.
Got in one little war and my wife got scared
She said "You going with this DKnight and sailin' to Baron!"
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Old 02-15-2011, 01:22 AM
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If you do opt to Kick instead, though, it's about the same as landing a half-powered hit against every enemy in the fight.
I think Kick has a delay like most spells (only more of one). It never seems to happen quickly enough to be worth the bother.

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Also, funnily enough, you can revisit Mist later in the game when you have an airship and it looks like nothing's happened.
Actually, you can go back to Mist via Mist Cave as soon as Cecil returns to Baron. It is advantageous to do so, because...

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I love that you find treasure in mist that's on par with what you'd expect at the very start of the game.
You can also find, with very thorough searching, some excellent gear.
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Old 02-15-2011, 02:21 AM
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FABUL KARATE MASTER RAP
My brain was trying to somehow make those lyrics fit to this song:

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Old 02-15-2011, 03:34 AM
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I know it may be weird, but I've always seen the Fabul monks as the bald guys that they are. Maybe that association just came naturally after those pics of Bonk's Adventure I saw in an old gaming magazine?

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The answer to "Haha, why is that karate man sneezing?!" is that he isn't. "Achoooo" is an extension of "acho."
I didn't know this, though. And now I just realized I've heard that phrase in WarioWare D.I.Y.'s sound effects, too.
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Old 02-15-2011, 01:13 PM
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You can also find, with very thorough searching, some excellent gear.
Oh, yeah. There's totally something that's almost game-breakingly good hidden there, too. But finding basic starting equipment for Rydia, long after she left the party, always made me smile. I couldn't really call it verisimilitude, but it is within the context of a JRPG.
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Old 02-15-2011, 01:34 PM
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This LP is so good it's making me want to replay the game again. And I'm still waist-deep in XIII.

Granted it doesn't take much to make me want to replay FF2, with its chocolatey goodness and delicious caramel center (wait I'm thinking of that Caramilk I just ate).

Decisions decisions. Do I wait for this LP to be done, or dive in sooner?

Hmm, I never did raid the closets of Mist on my first trip back to Baron before. I.. actually forget what items you can get there. Is there really something that awesome at that stage of the game?
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Old 02-15-2011, 01:36 PM
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It looks like Cecil...

...is back in black.
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Old 02-15-2011, 01:53 PM
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It's like, how much more black could he be? And the answer is none. None more black.
Unfortunately, he will shortly become a class traitor.
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Old 02-15-2011, 02:01 PM
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It looks like Cecil...

...is back in black.
I bet he just painted it black.
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Old 02-15-2011, 03:15 PM
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Hmm, I never did raid the closets of Mist on my first trip back to Baron before. I.. actually forget what items you can get there. Is there really something that awesome at that stage of the game?
There is a Change Rod which isn't very good, but there is a Tiara Helmet which is good for when you get Rosa back. The Weapon shop has a Dancing Knife which isn't bad (although at 5000g is a bit expensive).

- Eddie
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Old 02-15-2011, 04:15 PM
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Jeezus, no wonder Yang is the master of kicking - that NP art reveals that his thighs are as thick as his torso! He and Chun-li undoubtedly share some heritage.
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Old 02-15-2011, 05:32 PM
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This dialog box was the most memorable of my "name everybody Golbez" playthrough.
Golbez: Golbez!
Golbez: You are Golbez!
Golbez: And you are Golbez.

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It's like, how much more black could he be? And the answer is none. None more black.
The window background could be black...
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Old 02-15-2011, 07:22 PM
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♪♪ Golbez, Clad in Darkness ♪♪

Enter Kain's new master: Golbez.

A moment of respectful silence, if you please, for one of the most fiendish villains ever to grace a video game.

Golbez isn't just a bad ass. His ass is heinous. His is an ass so foul and wicked that lesser asses quake in fear at its mere presence. He doesn't need to carry the Bad Mother Fucker wallet; he's in charge of the Bad Mother Fucker mutual fund.

[Golbez's assorted heinous-assery]
Damn, even the name of his heinous-ass theme song is heinous-ass. And I just noticed some subtleties to his theme that I don't remember ever noticing before. Also, is it just me or do some parts of "Clad in Darkness" also occur in "Dancing Mad"?
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