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The Final Fantasy Tactics Autobattle Tournament thread

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Old 07-18-2013, 11:08 PM
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Batman hits twice, so he beats mp switch no problem as long as the second attack connects, because you can't switch it. Batman can beat Cersei in a fight, of this I am confident. He might not actually do it, but he's quite capable of doing so.

Jaime isn't a huge threat to Robin, cuz he can soak a lot of damage, but Batman will go down quickly to only one or two calculated holy spells. Robin is gonna be pretty afraid of Cersei though, so I'm never gonna win a battle of attrition. Robin can live a long time, but if Cersei is breathing down his neck he will drop quite quickly. I don't think Cersei can drop him with a single draw out, but with the calculated holy spells flyign around, he'll rarely be at full health.

My team could probably squeak out a victory (it's not totally impossible), but everything would have to play out just right. Your team has a lot more room for error than mine, so it's a lot more likely that you'll be the one walking away from this. My money would be on you, but I'm gonna go ahead and cling to my hopes and dreams.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:13 PM
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Batman hits twice, so he beats mp switch no problem as long as the second attack connects, because you can't switch it. Batman can beat Cersei in a fight, of this I am confident. He might not actually do it, but he's quite capable of doing so.
I think Cersei can withstand one with that new Robe of Lords. Either way, she's popping back up before too long if she goes down.

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Jaime isn't a huge threat to Robin, cuz he can soak a lot of damage, but Batman will go down quickly to only one or two calculated holy spells. Robin is gonna be pretty afraid of Cersei though, so I'm never gonna win a battle of attrition.

My team could probably squeak out a victory (it's not totally impossible), but everything would have to play out just right. Your team has a lot more room for error than mine, so it's a lot more likely that you'll be the one walking away from this. My money would be on you, but I'm gonna go ahead and cling to my hopes and dreams.
Ha! Go ahead. I've been shocked more at some of the results in this tournament. I'm just glad I've removed most of the chance for teamkilling like my last match.
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Old 07-20-2013, 12:09 AM
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Let's not get ahead of ourselves! Watch this match first.



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Old 07-20-2013, 12:10 AM
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The video is unavoidable! It's got concentrate, YouTube adapting to the metagame, we're all going to die to View Count x3 Holys...

... wait, no, unavailable.
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Old 07-20-2013, 12:18 AM
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No, it was just Transparent.
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Old 07-20-2013, 01:26 AM
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Mogri, I hate to mention this but you didn't make all of the changes I requested. Tempest should have 40 Faith instead of 70.

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Old 07-20-2013, 02:00 AM
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Oops! Sorry. I don't think it would've made a difference in this match, but I'll make sure it gets updated for your next.
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Old 07-20-2013, 05:08 AM
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That match was a real nail biter! Very close game, indeed.

In the wise words of SephirothKen, "It could go either way, man."
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Old 07-20-2013, 11:36 AM
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It would take a miracle for the Lancer to take out the two remaining units. Although the miracle may just be in the form of Torzelbaum's units are idiots.
Well, at least my team mostly did what I wanted them to. It would have been nice if my Knight had just started using equipment break instead of trying to beat her face against the fist of Elfir's Lancer. I'm still not sure why my Wizard insisted on using physical attacks.

edit: Huh... That first Calculated Flare went through the Lancer's Reflect Mail. I wasn't exactly sure if that was possible.

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Old 07-20-2013, 05:57 PM
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I thought we had been over this before?

Calculated spells cannot be reflected, under any circumstances. Reflect Mail probably shouldn't be seeing any usage in this format.
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Old 07-20-2013, 06:58 PM
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It's been mentioned, yes. Reflect Mail is not absolutely useless, but it's still generally inferior to Chameleon or Robe of Lords.

But enough talk, have at you!

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Old 07-20-2013, 07:01 PM
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I'm still not sure why my Wizard insisted on using physical attacks.
The AI doesn't like overkill.
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Old 07-20-2013, 07:06 PM
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I'm... actually really surprised that panned out so freaking well. Like, that was pretty perfect. Whooo! My hopes and dreams paid off!
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Old 07-20-2013, 07:09 PM
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Wow, even Cersei is no match for Batman.
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Old 07-20-2013, 07:13 PM
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Oh well. Run Like A Rabbit did not help at all.

This is what I get for trash-talking.

Thanks for running, Mogri.
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Old 07-20-2013, 07:23 PM
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My favorite part is where Batman actually waited in the shadows, just biding his time, until it was the right moment to strike! That's truly how Batman would perform in such a scenario, and it worked beautifully!
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Old 07-20-2013, 07:47 PM
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Ha! Take that, Gerad! Your ridiculous, brutally over-powered build didn't win! Instead the other ridiculous, brutally over-powered build won.

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The AI doesn't like overkill.
Damn it! Stupid AI... Overkill things! Especially when you're using abilities that don't have any cost. Flare the opposition into ashes! That's what I want you to do!

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I thought we had been over this before?

Calculated spells cannot be reflected, under any circumstances. Reflect Mail probably shouldn't be seeing any usage in this format.
We might have discussed this before but that's no guarantee that I would actually remember that now.
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Old 07-20-2013, 08:05 PM
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Ha! Take that, Gerad! Your ridiculous, brutally over-powered build didn't win! Instead the other ridiculous, brutally over-powered build won.
I don't know that I would call my build "brutally over-powered". "Ridiculous", maybe, but I don't have Math Skill or female units with Perfumes. I don't even have Excalibur. I feel like my team is one of the most conservatively built ones in the tournament, which is why I'm a little surprised they're still in it. Gerad is definitely one of the teams I was afraid of, going into this thing.

Now, however, the teams I'm most afraid of are ones I would not have thought twice about at first, which are reinoe's, and aeonus'. shudder. They totally kill faster than I do, I think. Even Robin will drop swiftly against the might of that tiamat, methinks.

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Old 07-22-2013, 11:34 PM
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Thus ends 2L.

In the wings:
Aeonus vs. Destil
Mogri vs. Sanagi
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:43 PM
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They just did not let that Chemist get up! Since the Knight spent all her precious turns picking him up, only to watch him get knocked back down... Sonic sez that's no good!
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Old 07-23-2013, 11:00 AM
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Yeah, one thing I've started to pick up on recently is that the ai has a tendency to prioritize certain actions and buffs, to frustrating effect.

Ah well. Good round, DeeMer!
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:31 AM
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Aeonus's Knight, tired of living in the shadows of her monster companion, decides to go it alone in this battle.

This is one of our longer videos, but you should watch it anyway.
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:57 AM
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Cure 4 was such a bad idea. I'm also pretty optimized for the Math Skill mirror, that one had me worried on the signup but I guess not for the right reasons.

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Old 07-25-2013, 01:02 AM
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"There's no way the Knight should have been able to get through the Escutcheon (2) - Abandon combo.'

Shields don't protect from rear attacks. Only front and side.


edit: Nevermind, you figured it out at the end.
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Old 07-25-2013, 01:06 AM
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Aeonus's Knight does it from behind. *shot*
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Old 07-25-2013, 02:48 AM
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which is precisely why Robin has a Feather Mantle.

I am, however, more terrified than ever now that I know that knight doesn't even need the tiamat to win fights.
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:19 AM
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Once again, my match proves to be both shocking and absolutely ridiculous.
Are you sure you didn't set Yuko to protect herself instead of Koromaru? Or does Stop do something funny to a protecting AI's choices? Those are the only hypotheses I can come up with for why she just left him to die.

Also, it is absolutely hilarious where that ultimately game-deciding Shield Break lands relative to your commentary. You just finished saying that it was theoretically possible that the knights would start trying to Break each other, and then immediately after it lands you start talking about how Yuko will never be able to hit Joan.

The irony is, If not for Joan's perfect evasion from 3 sides, Yuko (with 3 Move) never would have been able to get behind her! But the 20 CT saved by waiting instead of trying futile attacks gave her the double-turn that let her move that crucial extra space.

And lastly, boy am I glad I swapped in Maintenance at the last minute.

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Old 07-25-2013, 03:26 AM
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It's just amazing when matches are partially decided by minute details and long odds. Exciting!
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Old 07-25-2013, 10:02 AM
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Once again, my match proves to be both shocking and absolutely ridiculous.
Are you sure you didn't set Yoko to protect herself instead of Koromaru? Or does Stop do something funny to a protecting AI's choices? Those are the only hypotheses I can come up with for why she just left him to die.

Also, it is absolutely hilarious where that ultimately game-deciding Shield Break lands relative to your commentary. You just finished saying that it was theoretically possible that the knights would start trying to Break each other, and then immediately after it lands you start talking about how Yoko will never be able to hit Joan .
Yes, the setting was correct. Yoko just felt like taking charge, I guess.

And yeah, I was looking at the team setups when the break went down. Nice timing, me.
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Old 07-25-2013, 08:43 PM
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And that's 3W. Submit your changes and we'll be off to 3L.

I thought this was a fantastic battle, but what do I know!

This tournament quickly draws to a close. I'm aiming to stream the finals a week from Saturday (that is, 3 August).

In the meantime: format suggestions? And is anyone interested in organizing/recording #3?
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