HSUP B TCELES - Let's Play FF1! Again!

Yes. And it makes sense: getting to Kraken basically requires a second trip through the dungeon in the opposite direction. After cleaning out the treasure floors, it's worth an additional trip to and from Onrac to come back later and wipe him out with little resistance.

It's also just fun to sequence-break.

Dude. Twenty dollahs.

Also, the main guy in El Norte was happy to have that much. Sorry I can't find the clip on YouTube.

I like to play through this game with three fighters and a white mage. Am I too easy cheesy?

If this was the first game, you wouldn't be cheesy enough.

As is, you're merely turtling to high hell. Not a bad idea though.

I'd say it's about time he got crackin'

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaah

That's some mighty juicy bait, guys. Just when we thought we'd lobster, the spirit of punnery returns to threaten another deluge.

Well knock me down! If'n another punderstorm be comin' we'd best take cover. Dems Prime Octopus weather and we all know that when it rains it pours.

This time I was trying too hard.

Bad, deplorable news everyone! The next update is GIGANTAMUNDO, and there is a nonzero chance I won't be able to get around to typing it up this week! Aaagh!

But never fear -- I come bearing filler. And cool music.

♪♪ Cool Music ♪♪


Since the doing away of the Onion Kids in the DS version of FF3 (which is both a good and a bad thing, depending on a variety of perspectives), FF1 became the only game in the series without a set cast. Even in the newest, prettiest, most spit-shiniest versions of the game you're left with blank slates to fill in.

"But Brickroad! I'm an umimaginative boob who can't think of character names to save my life! What ever am I to do?"

I'm glad you asked that, Sadsack McSissypants. Back in the NES days, if you wanted to get into the game rather than stare blankly at the name input screen you just hammered on the controller until you had four schmoes named AAAA. (No, really, the instruction manual suggested this a way to "quick start" the game.) In Dawn of Souls, though? Bam. Auto-name feature.


Just press Select while pointing at any of your dudes, and the game will automagically cycle through a list of names lovingly pulled from previous/future games in the series. Some of these are thematically appropriate. Some of them are totally off-the-wall. Some are so damn obscure even I don't know who or what they're referencing.


Hilariously, the game only picks its references from FFs 3, 4, 5, 6, and 9. FF2 got left out because it's packed in on the cart sucks. FF7 and FF8 were left out because... well, I guess because they're too stylistically different from FF1 to really count. Does Dawn of Souls predate FF10? I don't even rememeber!

"But Brickroad! What about those two jobs you didn't use?"


Nope, they all get names too. Pretty cool, huh?

That concludes this mini-update. You may now all commence nerding yourself stupid to see who can place the most references. Oh, and don't use the FF Wiki -- that'd be cheating.

Nope, FFX was first.

... That - that song! It's not on the soundtrack!

WHY IS IT NOT ON THE SOUNDTRACK!?! ... (Or is it?) God, I'm actually grooving to it. If it is on the OST and I have never come across it, I'm going to get very mad at myself...

I was listening to this, thinking to myself, "Didn't one of those demo discs have a cool version of Prelude?" and then the main theme kicked in.

And it was Good.

You can tell that the Square translation team hadn't really finalized the 'canonical' names from Final Fantasies III and V yet, from this. I'd noticed some of the references before, but never really gave them much thought.

It's not on any soundtrack because that's the incidental menu music they composed for that particular demo disc. I actually have said demo disc myself.

EDIT: Here's what I can recall.

Doma - Final Fantasy VI (Cyan/Cayenne's homeland)
Banon - Final Fantasy VI (Leader of the Returners)
Arus - Final Fantasy III (Prince of Saronia; also spelled Alus)
Giott - Final Fantasy IV (King of the Dwarves)
Desh - Final Fantasy III (Amnesia victim on the Magical Continent)
Zeza - Final Fantasy V (one of the 4 Warriors of Dawn)
Leo - Final Fantasy VI (the most honorable Imperial general)
Sasuun - Final Fantasy III (king of Sasune, which is of course the canon spelling)
Baron - Final Fantasy IV (Cecil's homeland)
Argus - Final Fantasy Tactics (also spelled Algus for some reason)

Gerad - Final Fantasy VI (Edgar's alternate alias)
Kelga - Final Fantasy V (one of the 4 Warriors of Dawn and a werewolf; canon spelling: Kelgar)
Daryl - Final Fantasy VI (Setzer's probably-dead girlfriend)
Biggs - Final Fantasy VI onwards (incidental character often paired with Wedge)
Sarisa - Final Fantasy V (Faris' real name; also spelled Sarissa)
Wedge - Final Fantasy VI onwards (incidental character often paired with Biggs)
Puck - Final Fantasy IX (the ratboy Vivi befriends)
Blank - Final Fantasy IX (a member of the Tantalus theater group)
Tuss - probably Final Fantasy IX; don't recognize it
Baku - Final Fantasy IX (leader of the Tantalus theater group)

Cinna - Final Fantasy IX (a member of the Tantalus theater group)
Owzer - Final Fantasy VI (an aristocrat from Jidoor who likes the opera)
Maduin - Final Fantasy VI (Terra/Tina's father)
Duncan - Final Fantasy VI (Sabin/Mattias' teacher)
Drogan - Final Fantasy V (Bartz' father; should be spelled Dorgan)
Gorn - I have no idea, but I really hope it's not the TV Tropes meaning of Gorn
Walz - Final Fantasy V (king of Walse, which is how it should be spelled)
Marcus - Final Fantasy IX (a member of the Tantalus theater group)
Arvis - Final Fantasy VI (an old man in Narche; also called Jun)
Owain - Final Fantasy VI (Cyan/Cayenne's son; also called Shun)

Gungho - Final Fantasy VI (Stragos' long-time friend and hunter of Hidon)
Homac - I have no idea, again
Zok - Final Fantasy V (the old man in Tokkul who has the key to the channel)
Kokkol - Final Fantasy V (probably Cara/Krile mis-translated)
Koko - Not sure...
Gilles - Again, not sure
Nina - Final Fantasy III (the adoptive mother of the 4 Warriors of Light)
Topapa - Final Fantasy III (the adoptive father of the 4 Warriors of Light)
Delila - Sounds damn familiar, probably from Final Fantasy III...
Stella - I think it's from Final Fantasy IX?

Sara - Final Fantasy III (princess of Sasune)
Mikoto - Um...
Noah - Final Fantasy III (famous sage who trained Doga, Une, and Xande)
Kuku - Got me.
Luca - Surely not from Chrono Trigger...
Elia - Final Fantasy III (maiden of the Water Temple)
Jenica - Sounds familiar, can't place it.
Sherko - See above.
Ruby - Final Fantasy IX (possibly the only female member of Tantalus)
Sarina - Again, familiar but can't remember.

Mid - Final Fantasy V (Cid's grandson)
Elayne - Final Fantasy VI (Cyan/Cayenne's wife, also called Mina)
Tot - Final Fantasy IX (friend of Garnet's in Treno)
Yura - Final Fantasy VI (the Esper that acts as ambassador for the other Espers)
Lola - Final Fantasy VI (woman who gets letters daily in Maranda)
KluYa - Final Fantasy IV (Cecil's father)
Lalibo - Final Fantasy IV (clearly a dwarf)
Gill - Got me.
Kory - No clue.
Duane - Final Fantasy VI (guy in love in Mobliz)

I've played way too many Final Fantasy games way too many times...

Luca - Final Fantasy IV (King Giott's Daughter)

Kory - Final Fantasy IV (the astronomer with the telescope)

Mikoto is one of the Genomes in Final Fantasy IX.

Koko and Kuku sound like Moogle names... Final Fantasy VI, perhaps?

Considering it would be the only reference to FFT, I think it's more likely referring to the location in FFIII.


Definitely not FFIX. He's apparently the werewolf guy who tries to stop the Fire Crystal from shattering in FFV; you only learn his name much later, by talking to one of the werewolves in Kelb.


The King of Salonia in FFIII, and Alus's father.


One of the elders of Ur in FFIII, along with Topapa.


That would be the worst transliteration ever. He's actually the blacksmith from FFIV.


Boco's mate in FFV (should be spelled "Coco," since both of their names are based on "Chocobo").


Yes. She's the crazy sewer lady who throws exploding shoes.


Butz's mother in FFV.


One of the playable Moogles in FFVI, called Molulu in the Japanese/GBA version. (The Moogle Charm is also Molulu's Charm.)


Lenna and Faris's nursemaid in FFV.


One of the dwarves in FFIII.


Desch's hardluck sweetheart in FFIII.


He's actually the dwarf digging the undersea tunnel in FFV.


Ghido, the turtle sage from FFV, under his FF Anthology name.

This just in: Kishi terrifies me.

Fun fact time! This line in the LP:

originally read:

But I changed it at the last minute so as not to seem presumptuous. I see now I should have left it alone.

I've actually looked into this before, so I have kind of an edge. I doubt I would have remembered, say, Sherko otherwise.

What's sad is that even though I've played through all of FF 1-9, I only have strong memories of 1, 4 and 6 because I played through them multiple times. Everything else I played through only once.

In regards to Sky Render thinking of Stella from Final Fantasy IX -

I believe he's regarding to the Duck Lady who collected the Stellazio? Lady Stella was her name, IIRC.

What's interesting to me is the genders of the characters aren't fixed, at least not the mages. Next time I play this game I'm-a save the world with a team of butch lesbians.

You know, I've played a lot of Final Fantasy over the years, and yet I still stand in amazement at Kishi (and Sky Render's) seemingly encyclopedic knowledge of these games.

It's like my old band director used to say, "Whenever you start to think you're top dog there's always someone on the way up who's better than you."

More than likely the king.

Mid is a RDMAGE?

MIND=BLOWN

And granter of possibly the greatest Streetcar Named Desire ref in video game history as a result.

Definitely the best Streetcar Named Desire reference in that entire chapter of FFV.

That was quite nifty. I have a DS version of that game that I doubt I'm ever going to get around to playing. Maybe I needs to get me FFIII on the NES and try that instead.

Hi all! I'm brand new to the forums (consider this my introduction post) and just had to drop in to say that this LP is awesome! I hadn't realized that there were others out there still playing FF1 until I stumbled across this place :-).