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Class Mayhem! Let's Hack Fire Emblem + Sword of Seals!

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Old 07-04-2011, 07:03 AM
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I third Pegasus Knight even if she'll probably look stupid.
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Old 07-04-2011, 08:22 AM
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After I'd gone to bed it occurred to me we could have made Guy a pegasus knight since his sprite is change-proof, but it's probably not worth trying to get the delta attack nonsense possible.
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Old 07-04-2011, 09:31 AM
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You could do a find-replace on "Hector:"->"Hector:" for each name, though, if time editing's your objection. Ideally all at once rather than per chapter.
That would just result in a bunch of bolded names throughout the update, not just the conversations.

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I vote for more monsters if they exist in the code. (I can't find a good source of a list for these..)
There is that guide I pointed out to Elfir.

But seriously, there are no other monsters besides Fire Dragon.
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Old 07-04-2011, 09:50 AM
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That would just result in a bunch of bolded names throughout the update, not just the conversations.
Which is why the colon was included in the find/replace; colons are not very common at all except in scripts for who's talking.
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Old 07-04-2011, 09:54 AM
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Well now I just feel like an idiot. Again.

EDIT: Gah, my word processor sucks. Trying to do what you suggested turned "Hector:" into "{B}Hector:{/B}:"

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Old 07-04-2011, 11:39 AM
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I support Pegasus Knight Priscilla.
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Old 07-04-2011, 02:51 PM
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Hector’s version of this chapter has a lot more enemies using Lances. In particular, there are the five guys standing behind me, the line of Soldiers on the way to the castle, and the constantly spawning Pegasus Knights at the bottom of the map.

Even in Eliwood’s mode, the real difficulty in this map comes from trying to save Erk so he can recruit Priscilla (you can recruit Priscilla with anyone, but I always do it with Erk because I’m crazy like that) and dealing with the initial enemy assault. Once you do that, the map turns into a short jaunt to the castle in order to kick Erik’s face in. Unless it’s raining that is.



Still, priority is to get rid of these jokers before they kill Merlinus.

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Oswin: Matthew! Have you seen Hector?

Matthew: No, I haven’t.

Oswin: That man just goes where he pleases! And I told him, knights stand their ground!

Matthew: Haha! Not him! Young folk these days just can’t stay put! Even you were young once, right, Oswin?

Oswin: Always trying to take care of things on his own... That one needs to learn how to think about others!

Matthew: Yeah, but that’s what I like about him. Things are never dull when he’s around!

Oswin: Like him, don’t like him... This is not the time for such talk. It’s your coddling him that caused this in the first place. Matthew? Hey! I wasn’t done yet!


I’d say that Energy Ring was a good idea.



Matthew is now useless.



Er… I guess I’ll meet their charge.



Remember how I said all of the people who were in Lyn’s Tale had their inventories reset? This is a really bad thing.





I probably could have gotten this done by Turn 3 if Erk hadn’t decided to be an idiot and move towards the castle.



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Matthew: You know, Oswin, I just don’t get it. How long do we need to be on this quest?

Oswin: What do you mean. Matthew?

Matthew: We are men of Ostia, aren’t we? Our young master is risking his life for the sake of his friends, but if you think about what is best for Ostia...

Oswin: ...Hmm. I agree. But Hector’s not one to change his mind once it’s made. So I am here just to keep him out of trouble. I’ve sworn to serve him truly, and so I shall. It is a most trying situation.

Matthew: Haw...

Oswin: What is it, Matthew?

Matthew: Oh...nothing.

Oswin: So why did you come on this journey? Didn’t you say that spies do not join the fray?

Matthew: Yes, that’s true... But if we leave him alone, who knows what might happen? He is faithful and brave at his best, and a spoiled child at his worst. We must keep an eye on him. And if we must watch him, we might as well fight along his side.

Oswin: ...You seem pleased by that, Matthew...

Matthew: Well, I have long been accustomed to his presence, his behavior. But...I rather thought your appraisal of him to be a bit generous of late...

Oswin: That is...most certainly not true. ...No, certainly not.


Is this rain ever going to stop? (It stopped the next turn).
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By the time Erk finally got here, there was only one enemy left. Because Tanto wasn’t insane enough to do this, I’ll transcribe the special dialogue.

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Erk: Lady Priscilla! Are you well?

Priscilla: I should be asking you that, Erk. Have you been wounded?

Erk: I’m fine. Listen, my lady, I’ve found some friends who will help us.

Priscilla: Truly?

Erk: We’ll be joining up with Marquess Pherae’s son. Traveling with them seems to be the safest way for us to continue your search for your family.

Priscilla: Erk!

Erk: Oh, my apologies. This isn’t the place to discuss such things.

Priscilla: I’m sorry, but…

Erk: Lady Priscilla, my teacher entrusted you to my care. Until you have reached your goal, I will not leave your side.

Priscilla: Thank you, Erk.


The after chapter dialogue has a new addition in Hector’s Tale. In between the segment where Eliwood runs away and the segment where Hector finds him…

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Oswin: Lord Hector!

Hector: Oswin! Did Eliwood pass this way?

Oswin: Lord Eliwood? He ran through that gate and went outside.

Hector: I see.

Oswin: Lord Hector! A moment, please.

Hector: What is it, Oswin?

Oswin: Let us return to Ostia. The rumors… I’ve heard that… Lord Hector, I cannot approve of helping Eliwood… or Pherae… any longer.

Hector: What are you saying?

Oswin: We must think of Ostia’s well-being. If Marquess Pherae was involved in a rebeliion-

Hector: Oswin. You will take back those words.

Oswin: Lord Hector, I appreciate your feelings…

Hector: I know Eliwood’s father very well. I’m telling you that he is a man worthy of our trust. You are in my service! Do you not feel you should follow my orders?

Oswin: ……

Hector: Heed my words, Oswin. You are my brother’s vassal. Your duties to guard me come second to this. Return to Ostia, Oswin. You’ve done your duty. ……Thank you.

Oswin: ……My remarks about Marquess Pherae were improper. I apologize completely.

Hector: Oswin? Stop! That’s enough! You need not bend your knee to me!

Oswin: My lord, I would swear my service to you.

Hector: Service… to me?

Oswin: Please accept my lance sword as your own. Then return it with your blessings.

Hector: Oswin, you-

Oswin: I am a knight in service to Castle Ostia. Until now, I have only offered my lance sword to Lord Uther. Yet… I now wish to offer you that same service. Please grant me that honor.

Hector: Oswin…
Hector then rushes off to go talk with Eliwood. However, this interlude isn’t quite over yet. Oswin and Matthew’s A Support Conversation chains really well into this scene, so pretend Matthew was watching from the shadows.

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Matthew: It seems our young master intends to see this thing with Eliwood through to the end.

Oswin: And so we shall follow him and remain loyal to the end as well. We must protect him at all cost.

Matthew: But...what do you think about those two?

Oswin: What do you mean?

Matthew: Eliwood, son of Marquess Pherae. Hector, brother of Marquess Ostia. Each one bears the weight of a nation... How will they govern Lycia? Aren’t you curious?

Oswin: Well... I believe Eliwood will make an ideal leader... He may have faults, but he has the heart of the people.

Matthew: And what of our master, Hector?

Oswin: Of him...I am not so sure. He would surely be unique in our history of leaders. Oh, who am I trying to be so diplomatic for?

Matthew: Anyway, he is what he is... At least he has no skill for treachery, unlike Lord Uther... But he will certainly face challenges...

Oswin: Perhaps...that is best.

Matthew: I’m sorry?

Oswin: Hector may not walk the right path. The path of Eliwood may be the right one, but maybe our Hector can win people with his inventiveness. By not walking the clear path, he always forges new ones... In that, he has great skill.

Matthew: You would say so much, Oswin? What has come over you?

Oswin: ...I would not trust him to act without us, but...I would not want to see his good qualities hindered.

Matthew: Hmm, I see.

Oswin: But...you will never tell Hector what I have just said. It is...not becoming of a knight.

Matthew: Heh heh... Yeah, I know.
Chapter 15: Talons Alight

Hector and his companions defeat Marquess Laus’s son, Erik, and seize Castle Laus. After the battle, they rest in the castle and settle their affairs. They diligently prepare for any possible counterattack. They should’ve spotted anyone attempting to approach the castle. And yet, somehow, they find themselves facing an unforeseen attack..

Here’s one of the major differences between Hector’s Tale and Eliwood’s; while Eliwood’s Chapter 15 is Noble Lady of Caelin, Hector’s is the brand new Talons Alight.

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Oswin: Lord Hector! We’re under attack!

Hector: Is it Marquess Laus? He’s come back to take the castle? Perfect! We’ll catch him easily.

Oswin: No, it’s not him… The attackers aren’t a regular army. Maybe they’re mercenaries, hired by Laus…

Hector: Mercenaries?

Oswin: Their movements are very rapid… Coordinated. They’ve already made their way into the castle.

Hector: For mercenaries, they’re very, very good. Eliwood, do you have any ideas?

Eliwood: My father told me something once… There’s a mercenary group extremely loyal to house Laus. Their leader is named Eubans, but he’s called the Hurricane. He’s famed for surprise attacks and lightning-swift strikes.

Hector: Hmmm… This could be interesting. Protect the throne! We will not lose the castle!
The game cuts to a conversation between the enemy boss and our future character Heath.

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Heath: Sealen.

Sealen: Is that you, Heath?

Heath: I’ve secured a retreat path, as Commander Eubans ordered. Just in case something goes wrong…

Sealen: I don’t need you to tell me when to retreat. If we lose the element of surprise, we’ll fall back.

Heath: I’ve heard there are Ostian knights among the enemy forces. Watch yourself, Sealen.

*Heath flies away*

Sealen: Are we friends now? Worrying so much about a complete stranger… Heath, you weren’t meant to be a mercenary.
As soon as the chapter starts, Sealen blabs his entire plan.

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Sealen: Our goal is the throne. We’ll attack from the front and send another unit behind. We want to drive the enemy into a state of chaos. The ambush units are concealed as ordered. When the enemy splits its forces, we strike. That‘s all. Go.
Thanks buddy! You’re a real help.



This is another seven turn survival mission, but once again you’re better off going straight for the boss and the chests. Just make sure to stay the hell away from the walls; there are tons of long range units, and the (moving!) boss has a Longbow. Also, keep your weaker units in the back until the initial batch of Knights and Soldiers have been cleared out.

Also, throughout the chapter enemies will spawn in pretty much every corner.



By the time Turn 2 starts, an enemy will have unlocked the northern door. It’s best to just put Marcus in front of them and let them kill themselves. This may waste experience, but it also saves lives.



Anyways, there are more pressing issues to attend to. Marcus is my only healer now, so I need to be extra careful while dealing with enemies. The goal here isn’t kill enemies, it’s too weaken them enough I can kill them next phase on the counter attack. That’s not counting the Archers though; they need to die. Like, right now.



Quote:
Erk: Lady Priscilla, are you all right?

Priscilla: Ah, Erk. I am fine. Thank you for checking on me.

Erk: Not at all. That is my duty! You... are not tired?

Priscilla: No... No, I’m quite fine, really.

Erk: Your feet, they are not weary? Your shoulders, are they not tense?

Priscilla: They’re fine, really.

Erk: And your belly, is it full? Your throat...dry? Are you sleepy? Or bored?

Priscilla: Erk?

Erk: Ah...yes, sorry. Hard to break old habits.

Priscilla: Eh?

Erk: My last lord was a very willful child, you see. He would call me over the slightest things... That is past now, though... of course.

Priscilla: I see... ... Should...I be asking you to do more, then?

Erk: Oh no, no, this is just fine.




I let this sucker open the door to the chests for me, then had Serra steal his Lockpick so he couldn’t actually take the chests (which held a Silver Axe and a Mend)

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Old 07-04-2011, 03:00 PM
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Priscilla is way too fragile to fight anyone here, so I let her stay on the throne. As for Erk and Guy, they both got hit pretty badly so I just had them retreat.



Sealen dropped a Dragon Shield. Anyways, I immediately had Bartre rescue Eliwood.



Out of desperation, I had Rebecca go dangerous close to the remaining mass of enemies in order to lure them away from the weakened Bartre. Thankfully, she managed to evade every single attack.

Quote:
Hector: Yes! We survived!

Oswin: The rest of the enemy units have begun to retreat. It must be part of their plan. Half of them are already gone.

Hector: Blast! You have to admire their efficiency, though. Eubans's mercenaries... I won't forget this. We'll likely cross paths again someday. And there's the assassins I fought in Ostia.....

Eliwood: Hector? Is something wrong?

Hector: No, nothing special. We simply have to tighten our belts and prepare. It appears we have more than one enemy. Oswin!

Oswin: We'll see to the castle defenses at once...

Hector: No. I grow weary of defending things. Let's get out of here and pursue Marquess Laus. It's time to put him on the defense!
Chapter 16: Noble Lady of Caelin

After repelling the mercenary forces of Eubans, Hector prepares to mount a pursuit of Marquess Laus. Lord Darin and his knights are with the instigator of the rebellion, the enigmatic Ephidel. Hector learns where the fugitives were traveling from Ostia's network of spies. However, their final destination still remains unknown…



This time, Hector didn’t just catch a horse. He caught a freaking dragon.

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Bartre: Well, if it isn’t Dorcas! What are you doing here? Uhh... Is that a picture? Forgive me, but you don’t strike me as the artistic type!

Dorcas: You’re one to talk about looks... This is a picture of my...of Natalie.

Bartre: Ohh. I get it. She’s in the town square. Well, that’s real pretty.

Dorcas: I’d like to draw her in other settings, but she still can’t go far from the house...

Bartre: Hm. Right, her leg. I forgot your wife was sick. So...isn’t she getting any better?

Dorcas: She will...but it will take time, and it will take money. That’s why I left her--to work and save money.

Bartre: Hm...

Dorcas: But that is my affair, do not concern yourself...

Bartre: Well, that won’t do. It’s all for one, and one for all, is it not! I’ve an idea! Eliwood pays our wages, right? We’ll simply ask him for more!

Dorcas: Don’t be foolish.

Bartre: Yeah, but he owes us! Or Bartre here will tear him a new hide! I’ve been meaning to match knuckles with him anyway!

Dorcas: Leave it.

Bartre: Come on! It’s the least I could do!

Dorcas: I don’t need your help.

Bartre: You just leave it to old Bartre!

Dorcas: I said no.

Bartre: Well, I’ll get cracking! You just sit tight!

Dorcas: Listen…


Okay, this chapter. As I’ve moaned before, Lyn’s units have all had their inventories reset. With Wil and Kent I can just have them trade their equipment, but Sain has to buy a replacement Heal stave.

The villages give a Red Gem and a Heavy Spear.



Tanto didn’t mention it, but Hector and Florina can Talk this chapter.

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Florina: Whew… I’m sorry, Makar Huey. You must be all tired out from all the flying we’ve done. You need some water. That’s a good boy. (In this conversation, and in this conversation alone, Florina’s pegasus is named Makar)


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Florina: Kyaaaa!

Hector: This is a battlefield! It’s not a stable! I’m not picking you up if you get shot down again!

Florina: Oh… uhm… Excuse me… it’s… Lord Hector, isn’t it? I… well… it’s…

Hector: Oh, hey! Eliwood! It’s the…

*Hector leaves*

Florina: Ah…
This conversation chains well into three Support Conversations, so let’s get to them. Let’s pretend when Hector got cut off, he was yawning.

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Eliwood: Something wrong, Hector? Was that a yawn I saw? Not the best battlefield manners.

Hector: Ah... It’s nothing. Just, my dreams lately...

Eliwood: Dreams? What kind of dreams?

Hector: Laugh, and I’ll kill you.

Eliwood: ...All right.

Hector: There was this man--a giant with a great beard--carrying a girl on his shoulders. The girl called to him “Father”, and she was smiling, happy. Then the father said to her, “Yes, my beloved daughter?” That’s all, really. But it felt as though... It felt like a long-past memory. The man looked a bit like my own father, I suppose. But who is the little girl? Aye, she was a cute one.

Eliwood: What color was her hair?

Hector: Huh. Blue.

Eliwood: And the man’s hair? His moustache?

Hector: His were bluish, too.

Eliwood: Then it is a vision of your own future! A great moustache, eh? Ah hah hah!

Hector: Grr... You laughed! Hm. If that is my future I’m not sure I like it.

Eliwood: Why not?

Hector: The girl that would be my daughter... She gets taken away by this boy that appears later. ...A boy with red hair! Yes, it was red, I’m sure of it.

Eliwood: Don’t get ahead of yourself! There are plenty of people with red hair...

Hector: Quiet! Now I’m sure-- the boy was a Pheraen. No matter how close we may be, I’ll not--I’ll not give up my daughter!

Eliwood: Hector! Let’s hope your dream doesn’t come true, eh? For my sake.
Then, as Hector stomps away in a huff…

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???: ... ... ...umm...

Hector: Huh?

???: ...umm...I, umm...

Hector: Heh? You say something?

???: ... ...

Hector: ... ... Guess not.

*??? moves on to the screen and is revealed to be Florina*

Florina: ...ehh... …
Finally, as Florina mopes she notices Serra.

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Florina: Umm... Serra?

Serra: Wha--! Florina! It’s been a while, how are you?

Florina: Um, fine. Say, I... Serra, can I ask you something?

Serra: What?

Florina: How can I... become more like you?

Serra: Like me? Well... Do you mean my breathtaking beauty? Or my impeccable fashion sense? Or do you mean...

Florina: Um... Not that stuff... I mean...your personality...

Serra: I’m sorry?

Florina: When there are men nearby, I get scared, even if they’re on our side. It...makes me somewhat useless in battle at times.

Serra: Hmmm... I see. Yes, leave it to me, Florina! If you just do everything I say, then you’ll be like me in no time!


I checked. She doesn’t look better as a Falcon Knight.



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Wil: Hunh? Hey! Rebecca? Yeah! Rebecca!

Rebecca: ...Um, who are you, again?

Wil: Wha? It’s me! You know! Wil! The guy next door!

Rebecca: ...Well... I know of no such person.

Wil: Really?

Rebecca: ......

Wil: Sorry...I guess I’ve got the wrong person...

Rebecca: What?

Wil: Well, so long...

Rebecca: Hm? Wait... ......Drat!
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I kept Lyn’s units in the forests to help avoid enemy attacks, but the Archer at the Ballista apparently knows what he’s doing because he never missed Sain.







Alright Bartre, I need you to take a hit for your much less awesome team.



Oh, you don’t want to do that? Fine with me.



Quote:
Bartre: I’m sorry, Dorcas... I...couldn’t get you that raise we talked about.

Dorcas: ...Fine.

Bartre: I went to go sock that Eliwood in the jaw... But he just stood there so calmly... He listened to everything I said, then he gave me some fool excuse. I couldn’t even understand half of the words he used...

Dorcas: I’d imagine not.

Bartre: Hey, are you calling me a fool!

Dorcas: Yes. I am... You are a fool, but you are a well-meaning fool. You make big messes, but your heart is good. And I thank you for caring about Natalie and me.

Bartre: Nn... Maybe I’ve taken too many to the head, but what do you mean by that?

Dorcas: ...Forget it.
Chapter 17: Whereabouts Unknown

Near Laus, Hector defeats General Bauker. Hector and his allies now march towards Castle Caelin. However, many Laus soldiers await them inside. They begin their assault to liberate the castle.

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Rebecca: Wil!

Wil: Oh, ah...you. So, umm, what is your name?

Rebecca: Rebecca!

Wil: Hunh? So, your name IS Rebecca? What a coincidence! I used to know a...

Rebecca: That’s what I’m saying! I am that Rebecca!

Wil: What? But didn’t you say earlier that you didn’t know me?

Rebecca: I did, but... Come on! How could I have the same face and the same name as her? Just believe me!

Wil: So it is you, Rebecca?

Rebecca: Yes!

Wil: Well, but... Then why didn’t you say so?! It’s been so long!

Rebecca: Don’t give me that “been so long” stuff! You left saying you were going on a journey, and I never even heard from you again!

Wil: Oh, yeah... I enlisted in the Caelin army...

Rebecca: In the army? You did?

Wil: Yeah, I traveled for a few years, and now I work for Lyn.

Rebecca: Lyn... You mean Lady Lyndis?

Wil: Yeah, right. I keep forgetting to use her full name and title. You know, I am in her service... I really should get her title correct...

Rebecca: ......

Wil: Rebecca? What’s wrong? Why is your face all--

Rebecca: ...!

Rebecca: Idiot!

Wil: ...... You...kicked me... ...in the stomach…


(HP: 85%, Str: 55%, Skl: 40%, Spd: 45%, Lck: 35%, Def: 25%, Res: 15%)

Finally, a new unit. Raven has a custom promoted sprite, and being a Mercenary means he won’t fit any of the other unpromoted palettes. He’s pretty much a screw you to people messing around with classes. Oh well.

Anyways, we’ve finally reached the point of the game where I have to pick what characters I want to keep on using. I’ll be posting a more detailed look at all of the characters soon.
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Raven: Turn him into the prettiest Cleric, because it's looking like you sorely need healers at this point. Also, putting Raven in pigtails is hilarious.
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Yeah any idea I could come up with is topped by that, really.
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putting Raven in pigtails is hilarious.
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Alright, first off are the units I'll have to use.

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Hector: Lord

Level: 12, HP: 30, Strength: 16, Skill: 12, Speed: 12, Luck: 10, Defense: 14, Resistance: 1, Constitution: 13

Thunder Affinity, A Rank in Axes, A Support with Eliwood and Oswin, B Support with Matthew, C Support with Florina.

Eliwood: Lord

Level: 7, HP: 31, Strength: 10, Skill: 7, Speed: 11, Luck: 10, Defense: 8, Resistance: 3, Constitution: 9

Anima Affinity, B Rank in Swords, A Support with Hector and Marcus, C Support with Lyn.

Lyn: Lord

Level: 11, HP: 23, Strength: 10, Skill: 13, Speed: 17, Luck: 15, Defense: 6, Resistance: 2, Constitution: 5

Wind Affinity, B Rank in Swords, B Support with Florina, Kent, Wallace, and Wil, C Support with Eliwood.

Bartre: Brigand

Level: 9, HP: 35, Strength: 14, Skill: 14, Speed: 10, Luck: 6, Defense: 6, Resistance: 1, Constitution: 14

Thunder Affinity, C Rank in Axes, A Support with Dorcas.

Serra: Thief

Level: 9, HP: 20, Strength: 8, Skill: 11, Speed: 13, Luck: 14, Defense: 2, Resistance: 9, Constitution: 5

Thunder Affinity, C Rank in Swords, C Support with Erk and Florina.

Priscilla: Pegasus Knight

Level: 4, HP: 17, Strength: 7, Skill: 7, Speed: 8, Luck: 8, Defense: 3, Resistance: 6, Constitution: 4

Wind Affinity, C Rank in Lances, C Support with Erk.
Next, let's look at my magic users.

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Matthew: Shaman *COMPLETELY USELESS*

Level: 9, HP: 23, Magic: 10, Skill: 9, Speed: 17, Luck: 5, Defense: 5, Resistance: 1, Constitution: 8

Wind Affinity, B Rank in Dark Magic, A Support with Oswin, B Support with Guy and Hector.

Erk: Monk

Level: 4, HP: 19, Magic: 7, Skill: 9, Speed: 9, Luck: 5, Defense: 2, Resistance: 4, Constitution: 5

Thunder Affinity, C Rank in Light Magic, C Support with Priscilla and Serra.

Rebecca: Mage

Level: 9, HP: 21, Magic: 10, Skill: 11, Speed: 13, Luck: 10, Defense: 5, Resistance: 7, Constitution: 3

Fire Affinity, B Rank in Anima Magic, B Support with Wil.

Sain: Troubadour

Level: 5, HP: 23, Magic: 12, Skill: 6, Speed: 7, Luck: 5, Defense: 7, Resistance: 0, Constitution: 5

Wind Affinity, C Rank in Staves, A Support with Kent.

Marcus: Valkryie

Level: 3, HP: 33, Magic: 17, Skill: 16, Speed: 11, Luck: 8, Defense: 11, Resistance: 9, Constitution: 6

Ice Affinity, A rank in Anima Magic, B Rank in Staves, A Support with Eliwood, C Support with Lowen.
Finally, Kent and the melee units.

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Kent: Nomad

Level: 8, HP: 26, Strength: 11, Skill: 10, Speed: 13, Luck: 2, Defense: 5, Resistance: 4, Constitution: 7

Anima Affinity, B Rank in Bows, A Support with Sain, B Support with Lyn, C Support with Wallace.

Wil: Myrmidon

Level: 8, HP: 24, Strength: 12, Skill: 11, Speed: 9, Luck: 7, Defense: 6, Resistance: 1, Constitution: 7

Wind Affinity, C Rank in Swords, B Support with Rebecca, C Support with Wallace.

Florina: Wyvern Rider

Level: 7, HP: 20, Strength: 10, Skill: 10, Speed: 11, Luck: 12, Defense: 5, Resistance: 7, Constitution: 8

Light Affinity, C Rank in Lances, A Support with Fiora and Farina, B Support with Lyn, C Support with Hector and Serra.

Dorcas: Knight

Level: 7, HP: 33, Strength: 10, Skill: 9, Speed: 8, Luck: 5, Defense: 6, Resistance: 1, Constitution: 16

Fire Affinity, C Rank in Lances, A Support with Bartre.

Oswin: Mercenary

Level: 12, HP: 31, Strength: 15, Skill: 11, Speed: 6, Luck: 5, Defense: 16, Resistance: 5, Constitution: 10

Anima Affinity, C Rank in Swords, A Support with Hector and Matthew.

Guy: Soldier

Level: 8, HP: 29, Strength: 11, Skill: 16, Speed: 18, Luck: 8, Defense: 7, Resistance: 2, Constitution: 3

Fire Affinity, C Rank in Lances, B Support with Matthew.

Lowen: Knight

Level: 3, HP: 24, Strength: 8, Skill: 5, Speed: 7, Luck: 4, Defense: 7, Resistance: 1, Constitution: 14

Fire Affinity, D Rank in Lances, C Support with Marcus.
Only ten units in the next chapter, and six slots are already filled up!

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Old 07-04-2011, 04:56 PM
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Hmm... all right, analysis time.

In the long run, it's looking like the obvious keeps for the team so far are Bartre, Matthew, Rebecca, Kent, and Guy (and, of course, Raven, who even as a Cleric is too good not to use), all of whom have solid-to-amazing stats and weapon types that work well together. They're far and away the strongest fighters on your team and are a varied bunch in themselves, and will probably carry the group well into the endgame.

After that, Serra, Sain, Florina and Wil look like they might cut it, but they'll need a few level ups in their problem areas (in order: Str, Spd, Str, and Spd) before they have a lock on a given spot. Sain's spot is probably the shakiest thanks to his Spd, which is low enough that he'll be doubled by practically anything and his defenses aren't nearly high enough to withstand that kind of a beating. That said, his growths in that stat are decent and he's only at level 4, so it's likely he'll pull out of it once he gets a few more level ups under his belt, and even then, his sky-high Mag means he'll be one of the strongest healers you'll ever get. On the other end of the spectrum is Serra, who is turning into a pretty great thief and has almost reached the point where she outclasses Legault stat-for-stat (even on Hard Mode, the only stats she isn't beating him in are Skill, Spd and Def, and her growths are more than decent enough for her to catch up on the former two); she just needs a little more Str before she's 100% in the clear.

Priscilla and Erk look like they're too far behind to hang with the team, as level 4 stats aren't exactly cutting it as HHM material. At the same time, they did also just rejoin the squad and their growths are high enough that they could stage a comeback if they wanted to. Same goes for Oswin, though it's grimmer for him since he's already at level 12, only has 6 Spd and will be competing directly with Harken for a spot (who, as mentioned earlier upthread, is the Best Hero Ever�).

Dorcas and Lowen are terrible. That's... all that really needs to be said about them, really! Though to be fair, Dorcas has been doing phenomenally well in terms of Spd - it's a shame that it's HHM and he has to compete with Bartre for a spot.

For next chapter, I suggest using Serra, Sain, Florina, and Wil. Those four are the most borderline of the group, so we might as well see whether or not they'll pull out of it while they still can.
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Er, I have to bring Serra no matter what. Got to get those chests. Same goes for Priscilla since i need to recruit Raven.
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Er, I have to bring Serra no matter what. Got to get those chests. Same goes for Priscilla since i need to recruit Raven.
Oh! Right, I forgot about that for a second. In that case, I'd say bring along Erk in case he or Priscilla makes a statistical comeback - their growths are both good, so they could find themselves back in the running if they get a few good level ups under their belt.
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(You forgot Lucius)
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Lucius isn't a new unit.
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Oh, duh, he(among others) doesn't rejoin until later. I assumed he had and I just didn't notice. For some reason I always forgot that the Lyn's Tale characters don't come back all at once.
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Just for reference/the heck of it, here's a list of what characters Blitz has recruited so far, as well as which classes they've changed to:

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-Lyn's Tale-
Lyn: Lord
Kent: Cavalier -> Nomad
Sain: Cavalier -> Troubadour
Wil: Archer -> Myrmidon
Florina: Peg Knight -> WyvernRider
Dorcas: Fighter -> Knight
Serra: Cleric -> Thief
Erk: Mage -> Monk
Rath: Nomad -> Cavalier
Matthew: Thief -> Shaman
Nils: Bard -> Fire Dragon
Lucius: Monk -> Mercenary
Wallace: Knight -> Cavalier -> Paladin

-Hector's Tale-
Hector: Lord
Eliwood: Lord
Marcus: Paladin -> Valkyrie
Lowen: Cavalier -> Knight
Rebecca: Archer -> Mage
Dorcas: Fighter -> Knight
Bartre: Fighter -> Brigand
Serra: Cleric -> Thief
Matthew: Thief -> Shaman
Oswin: Knight -> Mercenary
Guy: Myrmidon -> Soldier
Merlinus: Transporter
Erk: Mage -> Monk
Priscilla: Troubadour -> Peg Knight
Lyn: Lord
Kent: Cavalier -> Nomad
Sain: Cavalier -> Troubadour
Wil: Archer -> Myrmidon
Florina: Peg Knight -> WyvernRider
Lucius: Monk -> Mercenary
Raven: Mercenary -> ?
[...]
Rath: Nomad -> Cavalier
[...]
Wallace: Knight -> Cavalier -> Paladin
[...]
Harken: Hero
[...]
Nils: Fire Dragon
[...]
Athos: Archsage
Also, here are the classes we're using so far:

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Lord: 3 (Lyn, Eliwood, Hector)
Cavalier: 1 (Rath) / Paladin: 1 (Wallace)
Nomad: 1 (Kent)
Troubadour: 1 (Sain) / Valkyrie: 1 (Marcus)
Peg Knight: 1 (Priscilla)
WyvernRider: 1 (Florina)
Myrmidon: 1 (Wil)
Mercenary: 2 (Lucius, Oswin) / Hero: 1 (Harken)
Soldier: 1 (Guy)
Knight: 2 (Dorcas, Lowen)
Brigand: 1 (Bartre)
Pirate: 0
Fighter: 0
Archer: 0
Mage: 1 (Rebecca)
Monk: 1 (Erk)
Cleric: 0
Shaman: 1 (Matthew)
Bard/Dancer: 0
Thief: 1 (Serra)
Transporter: 1 (Merlinus)
Archsage: 1 (Athos)
Dark Druid: 0
Fire Dragon: 1 (Nils)
It's kind of interesting how even a split we have for all of the characters we've recruited so far - aside from Mercenary and Knight, we've hardly doubled up at all.
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Old 07-04-2011, 07:11 PM
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Hey now, who said we were going to leave Athos as an Archsage?
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Old 07-04-2011, 07:15 PM
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We have to use Rebecca! And hopefully we'll be seeing use out of Kent and Florina.
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Hey now, who said we were going to leave Athos as an Archsage?
Touché!

On another note: I feel like we should've classed Lucius into something other than Mercenary so he won't get booted aside in favour of Harken, but I guess it's too late for that now. Oh well.
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I think we were planning to swap Lucius and Raven, so let's make Raven a Monk! The cleric idea is cute but I'd hate to see Raven fall behind on XP like clerics always do!

Let's give Sain a chance to level pretty and if he doesn't he can be dropped in exchange for Marcus in the future. Kent is badass and should stay forever and ever. Guy and Florina can take the final slots.

Matthew shall return as soon as we can reequip him. Crazy Florina is awesome and should stay forever. I don't know how many healers we need to have by the end, but the monks get healing after promotion so the lack of actual clerics is okay, right?

Archsage: Would this be a cool class to chuck someone into? He only shows up at the very end so I never got much impression for it during the old LP.
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Archsage is a class with some ridiculous caps and the ability to use all four kinds of magic. Unfortunately, it was specifically created for Athos so anyone who changes into it will gain one hell of a beard.

As for healing... this is Hector Hard Mode. Crazy, improbable shit will happen, and when it does people need to be healed. I'd like to have at least two healers, to be honest.
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Archsage is a class with some ridiculous caps and the ability to use all four kinds of magic. Unfortunately, it was specifically created for Athos so anyone who changes into it will gain one hell of a beard.
Hey guys, I think I know which class we should turn Ninian into now. >:3
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Man, nothing like playing a Super Robot Wars game to make Fire Emblem look as boring as hell. Anyways, I've decided that I want to tackle Chapter 17x as well next update. That means you guys have to decide what Canas (HP: 70%, Str: 45%, Skl: 40%, Spd: 35%, Lck: 25%, Def: 25%, Res: 40%) is going to be!

(I am totally going to have Matthew mug his Flux tome)

And because I feel like doing something incredibly stupid, I'm going to ask you guys how you want me to approach the chapter. If you don't recall, there were two paths: the safe, northern path that doesn't give much XP, and the super dangerous middle path that is basically a pool of XP.

EDIT: And Ninian is either going to be a Fire Dragon so I can make Eliwood look like a total moron ("No way! You mean my girlfriend, who constantly transformed into a dragon to kill things, was a dragon?) or a Dancer so I can get that Kishuna chapter.
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Old 07-04-2011, 10:14 PM
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Canas: Considering he's hanging out in a port town, he should be a Pirate, methinks. Yo ho ho, and a bottle of rum~♪

As for how to play, I can't see how you expect us not to vote for Operation: Suicide. I mean, super dangerous is the name of the game on Hard Mode. :P
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Old 07-05-2011, 07:12 AM
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Canas as a pirate sounds good. As for tactics, I think you should slowly go around the north side and then, at the last moment, somebody trips over the invisible line and everything gets shot to hell. So not only suicide, but stupid suicide. Really, you can just ignore me and go for maximum killing in whatever form.

I could go either way with the Ninian thing. More maps is always cool.

When you do FE6, we should consider the altered genetics for what all the kiddies get their classes set to. :3
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