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Two will enter, one will leave: The Thunderdome Thunderdome

Purple

(She/Her)
Oddly enough, as FF14 does this arbitrary regional subdivision thing, only 50% of all catgirls have fangs. Y'shtola is from the 50% that have proper cat-like eyes instead. And... yeah officially she doesn't switch to black, she just has a weird I learned magic from Matoya spell list. I don't think she even ends up casting holy if you do the whole Trust thing. Everyone's terrible at crowd control with those which is why I never touch it.
 

Torzelbaum

????? LV 13 HP 292/ 292
(he, him, his)
bat man with supernatural powers against cat woman with supernatural powers:
Still thinking about whether or not Y'shtola can put the Count down for himself...
As the fight starts Dracula hesitates because he is unsure if Y'shtola is a were-creature or not*. That gives her enough time to blast him with her earth spell but that isn't enough to take out the Count. He turns into either mist or bats to keep her from using the same attack but that just causes him to get hit with aero instead. At this point the Count is so frustrated from this battle and his previous loss that he decides to just leave the battlefield entirely. Doing that counts as a disqualification and he loses the match. Y'shtola hears the sweet sound of the victory fanfare.

*I can understand his confusion.
 

RT-55J

space hero for hire
(He/Him + RT/artee)
Finally decided that since Y'Shtola apparently doesn't ever cast Holy, that she wouldn't be able to defeat Dracula.

Thank you all for your input.
 

Mogri

Round and round I go
(he)
Staff member
Moderator
Apologies for the delays! It's been one of those weeks.

Ragnarok and Wolverine take clean victories, and Dracula and Shaqula barely edge out their opponents.



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Domon Kasshu + God Gundam (Mobile Fighter G Gundam)

The titular mecha of Mobile Fighter G Gundam, and one of the most iconic designs of all giant-robot-dom. In addition to a standard complement of ballistic armaments, the God Gundam has a pair of beam swords known as "God Slash." Even in its standard operating mode, the God Gundam's power exceeds that of its predecessor, but it can further enter Hyper Mode, improving its mobility, activating the Energy Multiplier System, and enabling the Bakunetsu God Finger finisher. In theory, Bakunetsu God Finger could be combined with God Slash, but it was never attempted due to the prohibitive heat and energy costs.


Unicron (Transformers)

Lord of Chaos. Planet-Eater. That's not a metaphor; he has devoured over a fifth of all known universes.

The Transformers wiki is a really bad resource for determining what characters can do, so I once again throw myself at your mercy. All I know is big robot, eats things.




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Gurren Lagann (Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann)

Not to be confused with Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, which is this mecha's enhanced form. Gurren Lagann is equipped with an arsenal of weaponry that includes a sniper rifle, missiles, swords, enormous drills, and of course its robotic fists. Gurren Lagann can also create and manipulate matter from Spiral Power.


Goku (Dragon Ball series)

The second-strongest mortal in Universe 7. What can I even say about Goku? He punches dudes, he fires huge lasers, he goes Super Saiyan, he dies, and he comes back even stronger. It's been said that just three of his punches could wipe out everything in the universe. Dragon Ball power creep is bonkers.



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Godzilla
Defeated: Optimus


Gamera (Heisei trilogy)
Defeated: Inframan

I'm not up on my kaiju, but I'm willing to bet this particular conflict has been resolved somewhere in the canon.


Votes due by end of day Friday, October 27.
 

Daikaiju

Rated Ages 6+
(He, Him)
I'm going to back G-Gundam over the Chaos Bringer. He can easily fly into Unicron and go to town on his squishy innards.

I am more of a Gamera fan than Godzilla, but even i know the Guardian of the Universe would nope outta this. the only incarnation he'd stand a chance against is the original. Godzilla has gotten bigger and bigger with every iteration. Gamera has stayed pretty consistent in size and power by comparison. He's the Blue Beetle to Godzilla's Superman. Gamera takes one look and decides it's Someone Elses's Problem.

Gurran Lagann and Goku... Power Creep vs Power Creep. Ugh. It's Goku's win I guess, after 40 episodes. Then they become friends and clean out the local all you can eat buffet.
 

Kirin

Summon for hire
(he/him)
Yeah, so, Unicron is a world-ending monster with nigh unbounded power, but the final form of the God Gundam specifically defeats a nanobot-powered Gundam that's evolved into a world-consuming monster at the end of its run. Domon spins, parries, and dodges his way past Unicron's artillery, smashes through his shell, fights into the heart of the beast and Sekiha-Tenkyokens the main reactor, leading to a very big boom which Domon and the God Gundam fly out of without looking back.

For the kaiju on kaiju battle, I can't argue with Daikaiju's reasoning, so Godzilla is still the king of monsters.

And then yeah, we have the two series with possibly the most power creep ever, so that's just gonna depend on who's power-crept the most when they have their match. Since the Gurren Lagann is specifically pre-Tengen-Toppa, it's still not up to world-smashing power yet, though a desperation drill attack with some spiral energy thrown in might get close. So the question is where's Goku at? If "Dragon Ball series" means *before* DBZ, then he's also still at local-destruction-only levels, and we might have a close match. If he's well into Z territory or beyond, then I don't think Lagann could take him down without powering up significantly itself. Any word on what level of Goku we're dealing with here?
 

Mogri

Round and round I go
(he)
Staff member
Moderator
Goku is @Purple's nom. I wrote "Dragon Ball series" as opposed to "Dragon Ball" for lack of specificity. If I had to guess, I'd say DBZ, but Purple can give us a definitive answer.
 

Torzelbaum

????? LV 13 HP 292/ 292
(he, him, his)
The King of Monsters dines on meaty turtle soup. Godzilla raids wins again.

Unicron is always built up as this massive threat and while he does cause a lot of damage he usually is always defeated by robots that are much smaller than him. (One time his head was shut down by a single Technobot.) I think a Gundam sized robot of the caliber of the God Gundam can easily take him out in a climactic final showdown (which Domon excels at). Domon Kasshu + God Gundam gives Unicron the Erupting God Finger.

I didn't specifically mention it but when I nominated Gurren Lagann I was assuming that it could possibly scale its size up to match any opponent. However I had never thought about it scaling up to match power or down to match size*. Like Kirin I think I would need to know what power level Goku is at before I can make a call here.

*Which they could do by un-combining and fighting separately.
 
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Purple

(She/Her)
Goku is @Purple's nom. I wrote "Dragon Ball series" as opposed to "Dragon Ball" for lack of specificity. If I had to guess, I'd say DBZ, but Purple can give us a definitive answer.
Platonic ideal Goku. Whoever he's fighting is at least initially sold as a serious threat his other friends stand no chance against, and from there we're obviously going to have some escalations. This makes for a weird sorta mirror match with Gurren Lagann who works on the same fundamental principle of it not mattering at all who has objectively quantifiable better odds you just need to out-hotheaded-shonen-protag your opponent. The key difference is the latter acknowledges this as an actual real rule the universe operates on, and that taking it to too much of an extreme could destroy the universe. So... the whole thing here might kinda turn into a game of power-up chicken where entire galaxies are getting destroyed in the background, but ultimately Goku is going to win by virtue of being too stupid to understand what's at stake forcing the GL gang to blink first.

G-Gundam Vs. Unicron is tricky both because I know basically nothing about any Gundam and because like, are we talking unfathomable-force-of-nature Unicron from the opening scene, or kind of underwhelming post-transformation Unicron where being kicked in the butt by Grimlock seems to actually do noticeable if nowhere near lethal damage? Anyway it feels like this is very much an underdog pick but becasue it's Halloween I feel the need to vote for Robot Satan over Robot God on general principle.

And Godzilla.
 

Johnny Unusual

(He/Him)
I feel like I've heard the Lagann transformation of the final universe involves becoming literally one with the cosmos while Goku literally had a fight with a guy where if they punched wrong, the universe would rupture (which, weirdly, gets dropped for the rest of Super. Is everyone after that just better at punching regardless of power?) Anyway, I feel like Lesser Lagann probably isn't going to win. Goku.

I guess G-Gundam. Unicron has a lot of build up but basically gets beaten from the inside by his foes.

Godzilla. I want to give Gamera credit for, despite being a turtle, having more speed and maneuverability of the two due to his flight powers and ramming into him would probably due some damage but while both fought against tough kaiju, I feel like a few of Godzilla's reach "cosmic terror" level and Godzilla is a monster that just doesn't go down.
 

Olli

(he/him)
G-Gundam might have God Slash, but Unicron has Dark Energon. That's even more powerful and dangerous than regular Energon!

Goku wins any physical fight he goes into. Intellectually, he's on the level of a third-grader, but no fighty guy is going to stand up against Goku, no matter how big of a mecha they are in.

You put Godzilla against another kaiju, Godzilla wins. He's the king of monsters, baby! Ain't no monster on earth who's badder than the big G, and that applies to alien space lizards and future cyborg space lizards too!
 

Mogri

Round and round I go
(he)
Staff member
Moderator
This set goes to the Gs: God Gundam, Goku, and Godzilla. What's that? Gamera and Gurren Lagann are Gs, too? Well, that's just bad luck.



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Maximilian Jenius + YF-29 Durandal Valkyrie (Super Dimension Fortress Macross)
Defeated: Ragnarok

A regular dude sitting in a large metal dude.


Steel (Sapphire & Steel)
Defeated: GLaDOS

A superhero named after metal who looks like a regular dude. In the likely event that you've forgotten this guy's deal, he's super-strong and super-tough and has cold powers.




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Lt. Cmdr. Data (Star Trek: TNG)
Defeated: Dalek

Robot officer. He's got a phaser!


Mega Man (Mega Man 2)
Defeated: Dracula

Super fighting robot. He's got like nine different weird weapons!



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Bernard Bernoulli (Day of the Tentacle)
Defeated: Kramer

Adventure game protagonist.


Rincewind (Discworld)
Defeated: O'Brien

Also technically an adventure game protagonist, but better known as worst wizard in all Discworld.

Votes due by end of day Tuesday, October 31.
 

Johnny Unusual

(He/Him)
Steel's whole deal is he's kind of powerful but he and the other "elements" (yes, steel is not an element, I know) are more or less designed to fight cosmic horrors. That means fighting them in a way that's more about problem solving than punches and kicks. Steel is very strong but the threats are more intangible in nature, threats that can't be stopped by mere strength alone but can trap people in time loops or in mirrors or give people diseases. Even if his mysterious nature means he can survive against a volley of giant gunfire, I don't think he'll be able to keep up. Winner: Jenius

Data is powerful enough but not nearly as versatile. I might put him up against most of the Robot Masters simply because Data can recognize patterns quickly but classic Mega Man is too powerful and has too much versatility. Winner: Mega Man

Again, I don't know Rincewind that well but it sounds like this duo is problem solvers but in opposite directions; Rincewind turns small problems into big ones and Bernard breaks down problems into smaller tasks. In all honesty, it really is hard to envision a scenario where the two are at odds in a way beyond an argument but I feel like whatever problem Rincewind creates, Bernard can probably defuse. So I'll give it to Bernard.
 

Torzelbaum

????? LV 13 HP 292/ 292
(he, him, his)
As far as I'm aware Steel doesn't have ranged attacks but he can teleport. So Steel could probably evade some attacks then teleport onto the Durandal and do some damage but I think Max would quickly shake him off before Steel could deliver a KO. After that the Durandal wouldn't be operating at full capacity but Max would be aware of that tactic and Steel would have a hard time pulling it off again. It was stated that Steel is invulnerable but I'm still not sure what the extent of that is. So I think a weapon designed to fight Vajra might be able to damage Steel. Even if the Durandal couldn't hurt Steel I think he would still have to wait until it ran out of fuel/energy/bullets before he could 'win'. I'm not sure if he'll do that but I think he might surrender or leave when faced with a skilled and determined opponent who isn't a cosmic horror.

Maximilian Jenius flies the YF-29 Durandal Valkyrie to victory.
 

Torzelbaum

????? LV 13 HP 292/ 292
(he, him, his)
Data is powerful enough but not nearly as versatile. I might put him up against most of the Robot Masters simply because Data can recognize patterns quickly but classic Mega Man is too powerful and has too much versatility.
Mega Man also has a lot more mobility. If the battle was on a flat featureless plane then that wouldn't matter so much. But even if Mega couldn't use his platforming capabilities to his advantage he still has all of the other advantages that Johnny mentioned. I think Data could get in a few shots and hurt Mega Man but couldn't deliver a knockout blow before he takes enough damage and realizes he is in a losing battle. At that point Data taps out and Mega Man is declared the winner. They have a brief, pleasant conversation before they both exit the stage.
 
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Purple

(She/Her)
I genuinely don't understand why the trope is called "Mary Sue" and not "Max Jenius." Winning handily is kinda just his whole deal.

I can't find the exact clip I'm looking for but it has been established that Data is an Ice Man and if this is Mega Man 2, we've already established that Mega Man can handle those.

And, yeah, by the logic of weird little dorks dealing with wacky problems, Bernard having less things he's capable of just kind of inherently gives him the edge here.
 

Olli

(he/him)
Max Jenius wins on being both offensive and defensive on a whole different level.

Mega Man is a cool robot and very versatile in damage types and agility, but he doesn't have the more-human-than-human sensitivity and ingenuity of Data. Ltn Cmdr NFN NMI Data can figure out a non-letha strategy to overpower a robpt whose cognitive level is that of a boy.

Rincewind is skill-wise pretty much on par with Bernard, but he has a slight edge on being known to be able to knock someone out if cornered.
 

Daikaiju

Rated Ages 6+
(He, Him)
Mega Man wouldn't want to fight Data, handing the android the win.

Rincewind would fumble to victory over Bernard and hate the journey at every step.

I'm abstaining otherwise. I'm not knowledgeable about Steel.
 

Torzelbaum

????? LV 13 HP 292/ 292
(he, him, his)
Rincewind would win because he wants to be somewhere else but we all know he rarely gets what he wants.
 

Kirin

Summon for hire
(he/him)
I don't know much about about Steel, but he seems like the kinda guy who would take one look at the fact he's being set against a future-tech military attack jet and be like "What numbskull set this up, it's obviously a completely is-match for my skills" and nope out, leaving Max the win.

Data vs Megs is tougher. I feel like in a more real-world situation Data would assess the firepower he's up against, fall back, and return with a clever solution using resources from the Enterprise or whatever else was available in the current setting. But here we're apparently not letting him access anything but his phaser, and a single relatively low-power emission weapon isn't gonna cut it against Mega Man's entire life bar while having to evade all his weaponry. Data will quickly ascertain this and tap out.

And for the last match I can't fault Torz's logic:
Rincewind would win because he wants to be somewhere else but we all know he rarely gets what he wants.
 

RT-55J

space hero for hire
(He/Him + RT/artee)
If this were just a pea shooter fight, I think Data's faster reflexes and faster travelling projectile weapon would give him an easy victory, but we have to consider old Megs' whole load-out.

Flash Stopper - Megaman is unable to attack when using this, rendering it useless.

Leaf Shield - It's just leaves. Data is probably immune to leaf-based damage

Heat Shield - This takes an eternity to charge (for an android), so I'm sure that Data would easily find a way reflect it or something in the time being.

Bubble Lead - Data could trivially sidestep or jump over this.

Air Shooter - Data could just duck under this. Yawn.

Crash Bomber - The projectile itself travels at a decent clip, but otherwise takes too long to explode.

Quick Boomerang - This is promising on account of its speed and rate of fire, but its range is not very impressive.

Metal Blade - Data has been shown to be decapitated at least once to my memory.

Despite my objections with most of MM2's arsenal in the context of this fight, I'm going to have to give this on to Mega Man

As for the other matches, I will defer to the judgment of the other posters here.
 

Mogri

Round and round I go
(he)
Staff member
Moderator
Maximilian out-steels Steel.
Mega Man out-robots Data.
Rincewind out-somethings Bernard.



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Josuke Higashikata (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure #4)
Defeated: His dad

Anime protagonist with magical powers that allow him to repair anything.


Avatar Korra (Avatar: The Legend of Korra)
Defeated: Air Man

Anime-ish protagonist with magical powers that she uses to break things.




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Great Gray Wolf Sif (Dark Souls)
Defeated: Y'shtola

Huge dog with huge sword.


The Hammer Bros. (Super Mario Bros.)
Defeated: Bebop

Large turtles with infinite hammers.



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Missile (Ghost Trick)
Defeated: Grover

World's best Pomeranian.


Speedy Eggbert
Defeated: Flik

An egg? Maybe not an egg? Egg-shaped, for sure.


Votes due by end of day Sunday, November 5.
 
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Johnny Unusual

(He/Him)
The first match is one of the toughest and I'd definitely want to see. Both are interesting because while they have powers that can dish it out, their fleshy bodies are relatively weak to what can get dished out. Oh, that's not to say either would be taken out in one hit but compared to other powered dudes, they don't have superhuman physiques (though Korra comes much closer to that. And both are more superhuman in taking damage compared to, say, non-fictional characters).

Anyway, both start off with some disadvantages as they figure out the other. Korra won't be able to see Josuke's stand and while I think it would seem Josuke might be at an advantage of seeing the whatever Korra has in the tank but controlling four elements means Josuke is going to have to recalibrate his expectations every time she controls a different element. Both can get really aggro but Josuke usually only goes full tilt when he's pissed but while Korra might mock her opponents sometimes, I feel like she won't say anything about Josuke's hair (she might think it's cool. Conversely, if this was Toph, I am certain Toph would think it's cool but still insult it. This is also a fight that would rule.) Both are going to take some licks as they try to figure out the limits of their powers but neither will back down, though of the two, I actually think Josuke might take it slow unless he feels really confident he's in a position to finish the fight quick.

Both fighters are also lateral thinkers, despite having incredible raw power. Josuke is constantly opposed by villains where pure violence tends not to work and requires cleverness and strategy and Josuke is an imaginative fighter. But pretty much any talented bender similarly knows that raw bending isn't nearly as great as using one wits. Both are going to find themselves constantly finding the limits of their opponent's powers and when their opponent has them on the ropes, using their powers in a unique way to stay in the fight (both sides are really good at turning the tables in a tough battle).

OK, so it's a cool fight. But where do we go from here. I think Korra is smart. She won't be able to use the avatar state for this one (that only tends to come out in high stakes and a good guy on good guy fight isn't going to push things in that direction.) Korra is going to start to figure out that using Earth, unless it is in dust form), is bad, giving him more ammo (for those unfamiliar, his power is to break shit and anything he breaks he can reform in any transfiguration he can imagine with it being the same material. He can also heal anyone except himself but that's not relevant in my argument). However, you can't "break" fire, water or air so she's got three powerful elements left to work with (and again, sand is probably useful). She won't be trying to kill this guy so her use of fire will be limited. So I think realizing having this guy near any form of matter is a problem and she's going to use either water or air to keep him away from solid ground while she uses it do defeat him. It's not unthinkable that Josuke turns the table on this one, that's the show's whole "thing" but I actually am going to give it to Korra in this one. Again, this would 100% be an awesome fight to watch.

Sif is a boss? And I assume he's pretty big since he's a Dark Souls monster? I'll give it to the dog.

Speaking of, that Pomeranian eats an egg.
 
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