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To Infinity and Beyond: The Marvel Cinematic Universe
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Johnny Unusual
(He/Him)
I was thinking that those shows felt more like they were going to get Hulued. Which is my guess of what will happen.
March 22nd is when No Way Home finally gets rentable. I'll probably pay the rental fee rather than wait for it to find it's way onto a streaming service.
March 22nd is when No Way Home finally gets rentable. I'll probably pay the rental fee rather than wait for it to find it's way onto a streaming service.
Surprising but not unwelcome! I'll finish up DD S3 and quit shotgunning Netflix MCU.
Wonder what'll happen to SHIELD.
Wonder what'll happen to SHIELD.
That’s already on Canadian D+, so I imagine it’ll make the move too
I had forgotten how good Vincent D'onofrio is (and how good everyone is) in Daredevil. The new shows are a lot of fun but they just aren't at this level.
It turns out the Netflix shows are actually coming to Disney+, along with an update that adds parental controls.
This makes me really happy. I'm not particularly hungry at the moment to rewatch any of the Netflix series, but I'm pleased to have the option, and even more pleased not to have to consider getting Hulu. Hopefully this opens the door for Disney+ to add more mature content like they do in other territories.
Yeah, I'm pleased at this news! Now I can catch up with the other series I didn't. Luke Cage S2 and Punisher, maybe. And morbid curiosity over Iron Fist S2.
Iron Fist's second season is honestly a huge improvement over the first. It's not incredible television or anything, and Danny Rand is still the worst, but it's at least watchable.
Luke Cage S2 is also more solid than its very uneven first season. I enjoyed Punisher S1 well enough, and S2 started out pretty strong but went downhill for me pretty quickly. It honestly took me forever to finish watching it because I just couldn't be bothered.
Luke Cage S2 is also more solid than its very uneven first season. I enjoyed Punisher S1 well enough, and S2 started out pretty strong but went downhill for me pretty quickly. It honestly took me forever to finish watching it because I just couldn't be bothered.
I liked Luke Cage S1 a lot, so hearing S2 is better is good news! We watched the first episode and switched to something else for a break after the eye-stabbing scene at the end, and never got around to coming back to it.
There's lots wrong with this version of Iron Fist, but he was at his best when paired with Luke in Defenders, and I wish we got more of that. Punisher I'd mainly watch for completism.
There's lots wrong with this version of Iron Fist, but he was at his best when paired with Luke in Defenders, and I wish we got more of that. Punisher I'd mainly watch for completism.
Danny has a brief cameo in Luke Cage S2, so you'll get a touch more of that.
I think S2 is overall more even, but Luke Cage was at its strongest in the first half of S1 when Cottonmouth was the baddie.
Punisher S2 is a major downgrade from S1, not least of all because it no longer features his tech buddy.
I think S2 is overall more even, but Luke Cage was at its strongest in the first half of S1 when Cottonmouth was the baddie.
Punisher S2 is a major downgrade from S1, not least of all because it no longer features his tech buddy.
I o lu watched the first season and a half of Daredevil and the first season of Jessica Jones so this is all going to be new to me
It is mere coincidence that I happened to watch Spider-Man No Way Home today, the day an HD print was leaked online. Yep, No Way (did I watch this at) Home!
Anyway, I really liked it a whole lot, which was nice after Black Widow was alright and Shang Chi was pretty good and Eternals sucked. I have yet to see the Andrew Garfield Spiders Men or the Venom movies, and not going to lie I kinda want to watch them all now (and I heard the Venom movies were dumb fun anyway, so I wanted to check those out regardless).
The way they handled everything from the Maguire trilogy of films was absolutely delightful and played me like a damn fiddle. *sniff* I just love those movies.
I hope we see more Tom Holland Spider Man. I like his three movies and all his Avengers appearances. Now that he seems to have fully gotten out of Iron Man's shadow (by dint of no one from the Avengers world having remembered him), I'd like to see how he gets on.
Also this was totally a multi-Doctor Doctor Who story, and those are always good.
Anyway, I really liked it a whole lot, which was nice after Black Widow was alright and Shang Chi was pretty good and Eternals sucked. I have yet to see the Andrew Garfield Spiders Men or the Venom movies, and not going to lie I kinda want to watch them all now (and I heard the Venom movies were dumb fun anyway, so I wanted to check those out regardless).
The way they handled everything from the Maguire trilogy of films was absolutely delightful and played me like a damn fiddle. *sniff* I just love those movies.
I hope we see more Tom Holland Spider Man. I like his three movies and all his Avengers appearances. Now that he seems to have fully gotten out of Iron Man's shadow (by dint of no one from the Avengers world having remembered him), I'd like to see how he gets on.
Also this was totally a multi-Doctor Doctor Who story, and those are always good.
I also watched Spoodermin today, and it was also good. Just as full of massive plot holes as the first two of these, but it's hard to stay mad at such things when Oops! All Spider-Men. Very much upset at the Venom cameo at the end though.
Johnny Unusual
(He/Him)
Late to write this but a few weeks ago I finally watched The Eternals, the most poorly reviewed Marvel movie and I won't say I loved it, I actually liked it quite a bit and appreciate a lot of what it is doing. It's weirdly a bigger and smaller story and despite deciding to have Jon Snow as a completely unimportant Marvel tie-in, most of it really stands on it's own as a big sci-fi epic. It's nice to see the Celestial REALLY getting a sense of scale that we often don't see even in the constantly bigger and bigger Marvel movies but I feel like it's a lot more consistent than the other two non-Spider-Man phase IV movies. Both Shang-Chi and Black Widow felt too married to formula and tone in a lot of ways to stand out in the way some of the other Marvel movies did and while it's not like the Eternals is completely breaking the mold, I feel like it's not like Shang-Chi devolving into generic "protect that one gateway".
I get why it fell flat for a lot of people (keeping in mind, I haven't been reading a lot of people's complaints), as it is moves slowly but I really don't mind at all, especially since it is nice to have an alternative to the general zippy Marvel tone. I feel like there are a lot of big ideas at play and I think it can be picked apart, I still like the idea it's about humanity. They are space gods but without going into much detail, the idea is they all have the same origin (re: genetically), move into different cultures and often become of them, then need to come together to stop a crisis they are also responsible for and also the big white guy is the jerk who wants the awful status quo that will lead to us all dying. Again, I think once you dig into it, there's probably a lot that will fail in this wild juggling act in retrospect, I was very much in for most of the movie. I also like that it's not trying to be as quippy. There are a few moments of that which feel slightly inorganic, I find it often works when it does try wit and does it at it's own pace and mostly saved for Kingo and his valet, who are great characters.
The weakest thing to my mind is the Deviants, who work well to kick off the plot but Kro, despite having a potentially interesting element where he basically knows that the Eternals are the real baddies, he never really coagulates into a compelling villain and feels like he can be completely excised from the last act. If anything, maybe he should have just been saved for the sequel though I suspect he'll return with some Deviants a little more similar to the classic Marvel ones.
So, it's not perfect, but considering Thor: The Dark World or Iron Man 2, it's weird that this film was received so coolly. I guess I got more out of it than most and frankly, I'm happy at least I could.
I get why it fell flat for a lot of people (keeping in mind, I haven't been reading a lot of people's complaints), as it is moves slowly but I really don't mind at all, especially since it is nice to have an alternative to the general zippy Marvel tone. I feel like there are a lot of big ideas at play and I think it can be picked apart, I still like the idea it's about humanity. They are space gods but without going into much detail, the idea is they all have the same origin (re: genetically), move into different cultures and often become of them, then need to come together to stop a crisis they are also responsible for and also the big white guy is the jerk who wants the awful status quo that will lead to us all dying. Again, I think once you dig into it, there's probably a lot that will fail in this wild juggling act in retrospect, I was very much in for most of the movie. I also like that it's not trying to be as quippy. There are a few moments of that which feel slightly inorganic, I find it often works when it does try wit and does it at it's own pace and mostly saved for Kingo and his valet, who are great characters.
The weakest thing to my mind is the Deviants, who work well to kick off the plot but Kro, despite having a potentially interesting element where he basically knows that the Eternals are the real baddies, he never really coagulates into a compelling villain and feels like he can be completely excised from the last act. If anything, maybe he should have just been saved for the sequel though I suspect he'll return with some Deviants a little more similar to the classic Marvel ones.
So, it's not perfect, but considering Thor: The Dark World or Iron Man 2, it's weird that this film was received so coolly. I guess I got more out of it than most and frankly, I'm happy at least I could.
I actually liked The Eternals better than Black Widow or Shang-Chi.
The Eternals, for all of its faults, is interesting. I don't know that I can say the same about Black Widow and Shang-Chi
This is exactly my thoughts, which automatically places it as 'better' than the vast majority of MCU films, not just the most recent ones.
Aw, that's too bad.
Well that's certainly different
Kind of feel that Stretchy Powers fit her personality better, especially with those cartoony overlays, but on the other hand Glowy Fists fits better with her Captain Marvel worship, and they already got a Growing Guy and will soon have a Stretchy Guy so they’d want her to stand out a bit more
In thinking about it, I can buy it if they're going all in on the Green Lantern aspect of it. Like if her powers are straight up powered by her own belief in that she can have powers, that's cool. She basically just won a random superhero lottery from magic farts in the comics, and her embiggening I always took as, like, something she worked "with' as opposed to "for". A more focused narrative arc (like, not the unsteady start in the comics of a superhero they're trying out in the fallout of another Thanos crossover that could have been just as popular as that all-women reboot of Heroes for Hire from around her premiere) that starts from the place of the more established Kamala we all know and love could be cool with "I gotta believe" powers.
Or it's all just to save on CGI costs, and Disney already copyrighted "super hero glow" ten years back or something....
Or it's all just to save on CGI costs, and Disney already copyrighted "super hero glow" ten years back or something....
I really like the look of that.
ngl phase 4 movies >> tv shows by a wide mile. That's no knock on the TV shows, they just aren't there yet. I hope some of these newer ones that have had more time in the oven are better.
I've been less enthused by the bigger hits of the TV shows than others (Loki feeling a bit like a pointless side story at times and too in love with its lead, Wandavision doing interesting things with bland characters for the most part), but liked the others a fair bit (F&WS was the "you liked Winter Soldier the wannabe MGS2 movie and wanted more? here's more!" that I was after, and Hawkeye was just relentlessly fun and enjoyably low-key). Overall I think they're miles ahead of the average Phase 4 movie - Eternals had a kind of boring cast in a kind of boring crisis, Black Widow felt like a lesser attempt at the superhero spy thing than F&WS, and Shang Chi a bit too tropey (both MCU tropes and Hollywood-interpretations-of-Wuxia tropes). But of course nothing on TV has come close to Spiderman.
I quite like the redesign of Ms Marvel's powers, nice visual effect on the crystal-ness of it all. Crystal Green Lantern does give her more of her own design space separate to the presumably soon-arriving Mr Fantastic, as has been said.
I quite like the redesign of Ms Marvel's powers, nice visual effect on the crystal-ness of it all. Crystal Green Lantern does give her more of her own design space separate to the presumably soon-arriving Mr Fantastic, as has been said.