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jpfriction

(He, Him)
Oh snap, my retroid 5 is two towns over. I may be tinkering by this time tomorrow.
It showed up about an hour after I posted this, lulz.

Quite a bit more tinkering compared to these preloaded linux things (no complaints here) but I have emulation station all set up and way too many games loaded already. Hasn’t had a problem with any ps2 or wii games I’ve tossed at it yet, although Doc sounded a little drunk in between rounds of fighting the Disco Kid in punch out .

Definitely bought Balatoro off the play store and have been playing that more than anything, because I’m silly like that.
 

Sarge

hardcore retro gamin'
I'm guessing you'll find that a lot of PS2 games will run just fine, and there's only a few that truly give some issue - Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance 2 and Metal Gear Solid 3 come to mind. The latter can still struggle even on a beefy PC.
 

Patrick

Magic-User
(He/Him)
TrimUI Brick arrived!

My first impressions are overall really positive, though there are still a few quirks to work out.

The size, controls, and overall feel are great. I had been a bit worried that it would be too small or feel uncomfortable, but it's a good size. It's very solid feeling. The D-pad and buttons remind me of my old DSi, which I always liked. Everything is kind of clicky in a satisfying way. It feels great to hold and I did not have any issues even after playing for a while. The screen is plenty big, and it has the same DPI as my iPhone. I set everything to aspect/full height or width and "crisp" and I have not noticed any thing that looks off. Even GBA games look/feel good, despite being a bit wider than other systems.

MinUI is great... on the systems I have working. Game Boy, GBA, NES, SNES, Master System, Genesis, NGPC, and TG16 are all perfect. I had to search around a bit for bios, but all of the roms I loaded work and it's easy to navigate. The unified menu is really nice, and I set up the function keys to save and load, which I've already used a lot. Whenever you turn the system off, it automatically creates a save state and then loads it when you turn it back on. There's not that much to it, you just pick a game and play. It's very much an OS that gets out of your way. I only played around a bit with ordering games/systems and creating collections, but it seems like it will let you customize a ton.

Pico-8 works well too. You can apparently trick MinUI into using Wifi and use the Splore tool to download games directly, but I just saved a bunch of cartridge images on my SD card instead. One negative - the menu button doesn't work while playing Pico-8, and you just have to use the pause menu to close the game. I think you have to manually quit games to turn the system off too. It's not really a problem, but it would be really nice if that just worked as well. Maybe it'll get added in later.

Problem systems: Dreamcast actually worked fine for me, but not perfectly. Also, the back of the system did start to get hot after playing for like 30 minutes and the screen is a bit small for these types of games. It's cool that it's capable of this, but I will likely not play DC games on it again. For whatever reason, I cannot get Playstation or TGCD games to start. I have never been great with CD based Roms. The ones I have use bin/cue files, and I suspect I may need to convert them to ISOs? Or maybe I have the wrong Bios? I honestly don't know. And from what I've read, DS and Portmaster games are tough to set up. I may leave those for a later project. Oh, and Arcade games are a mess too. I know that I want Final Burn Neo roms, but I have no idea what bios I need. I might just download a full set that includes bios. I don't really want a ton of games outside of the core systems that work well above, but it would be really nice to have a few 2D games from other systems like Cave Story, various Castlevania games, etc. But then again i have these on 3DS/Vita and ultimately if I don't add them here it won't be the end of the world.

One last issue - the LEDs are wonky. The shoulder button ones are white, the function buttons are green, and the top led does not turn on. I read that you can fix them by changing themes in the stock OS. I can take out my SD card to load stock OS, but it only has one theme and I think I need to install stock OS (or stockmix/crossmix?) on a separate SD card to add more themes. I would honestly be happy if the LEDs were all deactivated, but MinUI just lights them up for a second when you turn it on or off, and if I can get them to all be white that will be good enough.

So yeah, if you just want to play 16-bit games and pico-8, it's a perfect little machine for that. Adding other systems and features seems a bit messier. MinUI is great when you have it set up, but there is a bit of work involved in getting to that point. I will keep tinkering and check back in when I make some more progress.
 

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
I know for PSX and TGCD, the bios have to be not only in the right folder, but have to be named exactly what MinUI is looking for (and are case sensitive, as well). For PSX, that's likely "psxonpsp660.bin" according to an old reddit post I found, although I would check the MinUI github (github is blocked at work, where I'm posting from now, so I can't check for you, sorry). I don't know what TGCD is called, but it's probably something like "pce_cd.bin" or something like that. So, make sure the file names are correct, and that they are located in whatever folder MinUI is looking for (sometimes with these operating systems, there are dedicated BIOS folders, sometimes you just put the bios in whatever folder your games are in. I don't know for MinUI specifically, but I can't imagine bin/cue would be a problem.

EDIT: Ah, here we go @Patrick: https://retrogamecorps.com/2024/12/09/my-simple-trimui-brick-setup/

That site has a guide to getting everything set up, including where to put bios files and what they should be named.
 

Patrick

Magic-User
(He/Him)
Thanks, Kazin! I did see that guide, and I re-named by PSX bios to match that (it was originally all caps), but it still does not work. The TGCD bios does run normal TG16 games, so I think that one is correct. I am going to try the ISO thing. Or, maybe I'll try re-downloading both bios and the game files.
 

jpfriction

(He, Him)
Try using CHDMAN to convert your bin/cue/iso/whatever to CHD. Those are compressed files that most emulators are cool with.
 

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
Thanks, Kazin! I did see that guide, and I re-named by PSX bios to match that (it was originally all caps), but it still does not work. The TGCD bios does run normal TG16 games, so I think that one is correct. I am going to try the ISO thing. Or, maybe I'll try re-downloading both bios and the game files.
Renaming the bios may not work - you may want to seek out "psxonpsp660.bin" itself, given that MinUI seems to be trying to run PSX games via the PSP emulator. I'd imagine those bios work differently than regular PSX bios.
 

Patrick

Magic-User
(He/Him)
Just to be clear, the file was PSXONPSP660.BIN and I renamed it to be lowercase. I've looked around and I keep finding all uppercase files.

I will try CHDMAN too. Thanks!
 

Patrick

Magic-User
(He/Him)
I got it!

PSXONPSP660.bin (just lowercase file type) works. A post about Miyoo Mini said to do that. I was able to run a Crash Bandicoot iso and SOTN bin/cue. Wow, how weird.

I don’t think I’ll even play many Playstation games, but not having SOTN was bugging me.

Ok, I think arcade games are next. Two problems: 1) some games just run and others need bios, but I have no idea what bios. Like, there are a bunch apparently. 2) some games default to 90 degree screen rotation. Apparently the only way to fix that is to run them on retroarch, inside of MinUI. Then I can sort the roms into different folders (normal vs. retroarch) and if I name them right they will all appear together in one folder in the menu. Supposedly.

I don’t think I’ll finish this one tonight.

I have been playing a bunch of Pico-8 games though. Cherry Bomb is my favorite so far.
 

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
Hooray! Yeah, SotN is a must, frankly. It was one of the first games I tried on my Retroid Pocket Mini, and let me tell you, that game looks gorgeous on an OLED screen.

I'm afraid I've got no tips for arcade games... I actually don't even have any installed on my Retroid Pocket Mini because I barely play them. Heck, I've barely even used MAME in the past 25 years on PC, so you know, good luck getting those up and running, they are their own weirdness.
 

jpfriction

(He, Him)
Arcade is all about finding a romset compatible with whatever version of MAME the device has installed. Usually 2013 since that has the best balance between compatibility and performance.

I prefer to use FBNEO just because there are less options out there but I still come across games that will only run on 3 out of 4 of the retro gaming rigs I have floating around my house even though they are all ostensibly using the same emulators. Ironically the only arcade games I ever really want to play are the Raiden series and those seem to be among the most difficult games to get going right.
 

Patrick

Magic-User
(He/Him)
I've never emulated arcade games before, but I have fond memories of local arcades and they totally fit with the other games this runs well. Plus, they are very much designed for short play sessions, which is how I'll be using this.

My understanding is that the Brick/Smart Pro are bad at running Mame, but great at FBN. So at least I don't have to do research to decide between the two (or Final Burn Alpha, I guess).

And yeah, I made a big list of era-appropriate arcade games, and there were a few, like Battletoads, that are not available on FBN. But, most of what I wanted are there, and almost everything else had console ports. It seems like other people have been able to set this up, so it's just a question of tinkering around long enough.
 

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
Thanks to this video, I was able to change my settings in NetherSX2 to make Dirge of Cerberus run perfectly. Turns out you have to disable the Disable Hardware Readbacks setting. Beat the first helicopter boss with very little slowdown at all (heck, for all I know, the slowdown I did get happens on real hardware). There's other useful stuff in there, such as being able to click-hold on Wii games in Dolphin, to change the default control settings per game, which is a revelation for me (I had been loading up a game, then choosing my control profile every time I booted a game up, which was annoying).
 

jpfriction

(He, Him)
Huh, I think my version of dolphin remembers my settings every time I open it. I still use profiles a lot because god forbid I stick with one game for a week.

I was way too happy when I figured out how to map the touchscreen to the wiimote pointer.
 

Sarge

hardcore retro gamin'
Hooray! Yeah, SotN is a must, frankly. It was one of the first games I tried on my Retroid Pocket Mini, and let me tell you, that game looks gorgeous on an OLED screen.
Hoo boy, this might be a good candidate for running on my new TV. like I need to beat SotN for like the 20th time...

I'm absolutely convinced the next handheld I get needs to have an OLED, though. I've been converted.
 

Patrick

Magic-User
(He/Him)
I spent some more time messing around with the Brick and have it in pretty much the state I want it in, aside from adding/deleting a few games.

I had seen some conversations about swapping the start/select buttons with the function buttons (which look like Game Boy Pocket start/select buttons), and also about changing LED colors. But, it turns out that those conversations were about Stock OS, not MinUI. So I spent a long item trying to make changes that didn't work. Whoops! But, I did end up updating the firmware, which fixed the top LED, and I found a way to change the most of the LEDs white. The function buttons still turn green during startup, which is apparently somehow connected to the Trimui bootup sequence and will be harder to fix. I'm hoping someone figures that stuff out for MinUI eventually, but it's fine for now.

I was also planning to add some Portmaster and DS games, but eventually I decided it wasn't worth it because of the screen shape and size. GBA games feel a bit small as 3:2 games on a 3.2", 4:3 screen, and I don't think I'd want to play games designed for 16:9 or double screens. I mostly wanted Portmaster for Cave Story anyway, and I found a solid PS1 port of it that runs great and has the correct aspect ratio.

For Pico-8, I found that you can use the MinUI pause menu and function keys if you run games in the Fake-08 emulator, but not if you run them natively. Most games run fine in Fake-08, but some run poorly or not at all. But, I came up with a pretty good solution: I have one folder on the SD card named "Pico-8 (P8)" with most of the games in it, and then a second folder named "Pico-8 (PICO)" with games that need to run natively. They all show up under Pico-8 in MinUI, but when you open the games they use the emulator or run natively based on the file folder extension. As I find games that have issues in Fake-08, I'll just move them to the other folder.

I also used the same trick to make "Game Boy + Color" and "Game Gear + SMS" folders, since those feel like unified collections to me.

Finally, I was able to add a ton of Arcade games. The set that I found had over 500 games and everything I've tried works. I filtered that down to around 200 that sounded interesting. Something like 50 of those were vertical games (including Donkey Kong, Pac-Man, etc), and MinUI has no way to rotate the screen. There's a workaround to run arcade games in Retroarch, which does have an option to rotate the screen. But, it looks like a pain to set up. I started looking into the list of vertical games, and most of them have NES ports, or show up on Namco Museum/Williams Arcade Greatest hits on PS1. And honestly, while arcade perfect roms are neat, I don't think it's worth the headaches, so I'm going to delete those arcade games and download the ports. I can even use the folder name trick to have them show up in the arcade list in MinUI. I'm missing out on a few obscure games and a ton of Toaplan and Cave shooters. I might add those to Switch and use that rotating grip thing that Parish kickstarted to get a really good vertical shooter setup someday.

So, I think that's it. I'm finishing up Zelda LTTP (I was able to move my save file over from Vita), and I started up Cave Story, plus I've been playing a bunch of Pico-8 and Arcade games. It looks and feels nice, and I think I'm gonna play it a ton. I'm very happy with it, it was the best $50 I've spent in a long time.
 

jpfriction

(He, Him)
I think all my arcade games run through retro arch by default but that’s probably due to my front end. Glad you are having fun!

I’m very pleased with myself for continuing to use my RP5 daily even after I finished the fun set up phase. Since christmas I’ve beat zero mission, I’m halfway through the rematches in Punch Out Wii, took down two bosses in Golvellius, fumbled my way into a poison mine in King’s Field IV, played a few races in burnout, the list goes on. Lazy vacation couch gaming while your son watches youtube 4 life!
 

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
Despite being insanely addicted to playing an actual Virtual Boy of late because I'm dumb, I've played a ton of games on my Retroid Pocket Mini too. Since I got it, I've beaten Knuckles Chaotix, Sonic 3 & Knuckles, Sonic CD, Sonic Mania, Zelda Wind Waker, NSMB Wii, Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaaster, Final Fantasy VII, Sonic 1, Thunderforce III, Contra (with rewind because I am godawful at that game), and Kirby's Adventure.

I stalled out on an Android port I found of Another Metroid 2 Remake, though. Those later Metroid fights are kinda tedious, ngl
 

jpfriction

(He, Him)
Hah, AM2R is on my list and said android port is installed. Playing that for a bit and going “man I wish I was playing zero mission” may have been a factor in my first completed game there.
 

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
Totally fair. Zero Mission is so good. I played through it and Fusion in 2024 before I got the Retroid Mini.
 

Patrick

Magic-User
(He/Him)
I think all my arcade games run through retro arch by default but that’s probably due to my front end.
Yeah, minUI uses Minarch, which is a custom front end that accesses Retroarch cores. You can hack in a way to access full Retroarch, but it sounds like a pain and then you don't have the nice MinUI menus and function keys. Having that same menu in every game makes playing on the Brick feel like a nice unified experience.

minui-menu-gbc.png
 

Patrick

Magic-User
(He/Him)
I've been trying to place what the Brick reminds me of, and I finally figured it out: the DSi. It has the same kind of clicky d-pad and buttons, and the plastic and general design are similar, but in a Game Boy Pocket like form factor. It's like two different eras of Nintendo handhelds (1996 and 2009) mashed together. (also cheaper, with a much nicer screen, and hundreds of games loaded on it :p)
 

Paul le Fou

24/7 lofi hip hop man to study/relax to
(He)
My friend at the cafe showed me an Anbernic shaped like a game boy with analog sticks (Hall effect, apparently!) that plays up to PS2/Gamecube games. This about a week after a different showed me an Anbernic shaped like a GBA SP (no analog sticks), but which could play PS1 games. And now I'm wondering if any of them play Sega Saturn games and I can finally emulate Parasite Eve and Panzer Dragoon Saga among others if I grab something like one of these. It's not near the top of my priority list right now so it'll be a while, but I guess I'm interested.

One thing I wonder is if there are any dual-screen ones to better emulate DS and 3DS games; the one my friend just showed me had a button to switch between the screens which seems like the best way (but still not a good way) to handle it. I guess it depends on the game. But if I was going to emulate 3/DS games I'd want two screens...
 

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
No good, affordable, ways to emulate DS/3DS at this point that I'm aware of, sadly.
 

Beowulf

Son of The Answer Man
(He/Him)
No good, affordable, ways to emulate DS/3DS at this point that I'm aware of, sadly.
I mean, the widescreen devices like the various Retroid Pockets do DS very nicely with the screens side-by-side, which is fine for some games but awkward for others. (I've also found that running DraStic on my cheap tablet is a great way to play stylus-only games like Professor Layton.) I agree that nothing in the "affordable" category plays 3DS particularly well, at least as far as I've found.
 

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
Side by side, imo, is not "good" for me. Vertical stacked without being incredibly tiny is the only way to play those systems for me.
 

Beowulf

Son of The Answer Man
(He/Him)
Side by side, imo, is not "good" for me. Vertical stacked without being incredibly tiny is the only way to play those systems for me.
I really depends on the game to me. Like, the Castlevania games where the second screen is just the map, or Mario/Kirby where it's your inventory is fine. (Or Black Sigil, where the second screen is basically an afterthought.) Games like the Dragon Quest remakes where the overworld graphics are spread between the two screens I'm with you on. And games like Cooking Mama where things move "down" from the top to the bottom are maddening in side-by-side.
 

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
@Beowulf As much as it's as good as we were ever gonna get, those DS Castlevanias on that collection that recently came out on Switch with the maps on the right kinda bothered me. It feels wrong, somehow, even though, yeah, it doesn't really matter lol
 

Patrick

Magic-User
(He/Him)
I imagine that a Switch with Flip Grip would be great at emulating DS games. I don’t think it’s strong enough for 3DS though.
 
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