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PolyglotDome: Music from Everywhere
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Johnny Unusual
(He/Him)
Plastic Neu
Plastic Love and Sæglópur. I actually like Alles Neu better but I can't in good faith vote for it because of that video. Luckily, Sæglópur is pretty good too, so I'm not just throwing away my vote or anything.
Also, I did include two J-pop songs, but one is Plastic fucking Love and the other was by Tokyo Jihen, and that one lost to a goddamn anime opening anyway, so I have absolutely no regrets about including these as representations of international music.
Also, I did include two J-pop songs, but one is Plastic fucking Love and the other was by Tokyo Jihen, and that one lost to a goddamn anime opening anyway, so I have absolutely no regrets about including these as representations of international music.
Violentvixen
(She/Her)
Could you explain? The end is just more drumline stuff? Or are they saying something I'm not picking up on?
"Comparing black people to monkeys has a long, dark simian history"
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Comparing black people to monkeys has a long, dark simian history
Animalisation remains a malicious and effective form of dehumanisation. Simianisation is a version of this strategy, which historically manifested a lethal combination of sexism and racism.
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Violentvixen
(She/Her)
Hmm, okay, so the issue is that only the black people unmasked? I honestly felt it was more in the other direction, it shows respect for drumline's history and the performer's skills by removing the masks and making sure the viewer is aware that these are people, not just background dancers/characters. Not doing what Gwen Stefani did with the Harajuku Girls which was racist and gross.
But I definitely see how it would make someone uncomfortable and see how I could be completely misreading it, thanks for explaining.
But I definitely see how it would make someone uncomfortable and see how I could be completely misreading it, thanks for explaining.
Violentvixen
(She/Her)
So totally separate from everything else, I just want to take a moment to share some stuff about HBCU drumline in case people aren't aware of it, because 1) it's awesome and 2) the history and cultural background often gets glossed over or erased 3) it's Black History month and I saw an article about this recently so it was on my mind even before this battle.
It should come as no surprise that drumline in general has a military background, but there's a big branch for HBCU (Historically Black Colleges and Universities) style marching bands which is where the drumming style you see in most music videos is from. I knew it was a school in Florida that started it, but it looks like Florida A&M is considered to be the first one to have this style of band. Unlike the more formal and strict military marching style these marching bands are usually much more dance influenced, with a lot of flourish in movement, play style and even how the announcer interacts with the crowd. Here's a cool joint halftime show from HBCU gameday:
Also while this video is pretty standard marching band stuff, it's significant that they performed at Obama's inauguration:
Quickly other black universities and colleges started having this style of band and it became an incredibly distinctive thing and the bands have played in super bowls and lots of other big events.
Some of the other big marching bands in this style are North Carolina A&T (Blue and Gold Marching and Cold Steel Drumline, which is where the guys in the video are from by they way):
Grambling State:
Jackson State (which throws some shade at about 4min 30 sec in):
Bethune-Cookman University, which I learned has a Netflix series while researching this?!
There was also a movie Drumline which I've heard good things about but haven't seen.
Something I can't cite official sources for but have heard quite a lot is that drumlines also show special care for deaf and blind audiences. There's a lot of push to perfect all parts of the performance, so that blind people can still see the movements and the rhythm and deaf people can still hear and visualize everything.
It's a very cool genre/style/activity/sport that doesn't get enough recognition. But I'm glad to see it used more and more often. Odesza which is one of my favourite bands uses drumline extensively in their songs and live performances. Can't find links but they recruit heavily from HBCU drumlines.
It should come as no surprise that drumline in general has a military background, but there's a big branch for HBCU (Historically Black Colleges and Universities) style marching bands which is where the drumming style you see in most music videos is from. I knew it was a school in Florida that started it, but it looks like Florida A&M is considered to be the first one to have this style of band. Unlike the more formal and strict military marching style these marching bands are usually much more dance influenced, with a lot of flourish in movement, play style and even how the announcer interacts with the crowd. Here's a cool joint halftime show from HBCU gameday:
Also while this video is pretty standard marching band stuff, it's significant that they performed at Obama's inauguration:
Quickly other black universities and colleges started having this style of band and it became an incredibly distinctive thing and the bands have played in super bowls and lots of other big events.
Some of the other big marching bands in this style are North Carolina A&T (Blue and Gold Marching and Cold Steel Drumline, which is where the guys in the video are from by they way):
Grambling State:
Jackson State (which throws some shade at about 4min 30 sec in):
Bethune-Cookman University, which I learned has a Netflix series while researching this?!
There was also a movie Drumline which I've heard good things about but haven't seen.
Something I can't cite official sources for but have heard quite a lot is that drumlines also show special care for deaf and blind audiences. There's a lot of push to perfect all parts of the performance, so that blind people can still see the movements and the rhythm and deaf people can still hear and visualize everything.
It's a very cool genre/style/activity/sport that doesn't get enough recognition. But I'm glad to see it used more and more often. Odesza which is one of my favourite bands uses drumline extensively in their songs and live performances. Can't find links but they recruit heavily from HBCU drumlines.
Yeah, my high school (which had a high proportion of African-American kids) had a drum-line heavily influenced by that style. Thanks for all the info, VV, very cool. As for the video.... yeah the juxtaposition of the monkey masks and black drum-line is really unfortunate and not a good look. There were definitely white people masked also, and it's cool that the video showcased the drum-line unmasked at the end, but still, someone really shoulda looked at that and just gone with a different concept. Cool that the drummers in a German music video are from my state, though.
At any rate, Plastic Love and Alles Neu move on.
Our Friday matches start off with @Johnny Unusual who just wants to Naatu Naatu with NTR and Ram Charan in Telugu, but I'm off saying Sen Başkasın with Tarkan in Turkish
వర్సెస్ / KARŞI
And meanwhile @Purple thinks this is all Yuve Yuve Yu with The HU in Mongolian, but @pudik says it's just Geschiedenissen in je Hoofd with Ton Lebbink in Dutch
ЭСРЭГ / TEGEN
(More translation notes: it looks like the most common translation of "versus" in Dutch is "versus", but that's boring, so I went with the word for "against", which is actually what a lot of these are anyway. Also I gotta say, that Telugu script is gorgeous, I don't think I'd come across it before.)
At any rate, Plastic Love and Alles Neu move on.
Our Friday matches start off with @Johnny Unusual who just wants to Naatu Naatu with NTR and Ram Charan in Telugu, but I'm off saying Sen Başkasın with Tarkan in Turkish
వర్సెస్ / KARŞI
And meanwhile @Purple thinks this is all Yuve Yuve Yu with The HU in Mongolian, but @pudik says it's just Geschiedenissen in je Hoofd with Ton Lebbink in Dutch
ЭСРЭГ / TEGEN
(More translation notes: it looks like the most common translation of "versus" in Dutch is "versus", but that's boring, so I went with the word for "against", which is actually what a lot of these are anyway. Also I gotta say, that Telugu script is gorgeous, I don't think I'd come across it before.)
Nattu Yuve
Nattu Nattu Yuve Yuve
Also anyone who hasn't seen RRR yet should do themselves a favor. It's one of the best films of last year and one of the finest action blockbusters in years.
Also also, not to pick too many nits but that version of Nattu Nattu is in Hindi (which is the closest to Telegu that the Netflix version offers. You have to watch it on ZEE5 to get the Telegu version but even that one has random English lines dubbed in Telegu. The film's streaming distribution is a bit of a mess).
Also anyone who hasn't seen RRR yet should do themselves a favor. It's one of the best films of last year and one of the finest action blockbusters in years.
Also also, not to pick too many nits but that version of Nattu Nattu is in Hindi (which is the closest to Telegu that the Netflix version offers. You have to watch it on ZEE5 to get the Telegu version but even that one has random English lines dubbed in Telegu. The film's streaming distribution is a bit of a mess).
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Aw crap; I gave y'all just the one video out of several from that album, named Stadtaffe (Urban Ape) and didn't even think about it viewed standalone. People running around in monkey masks was the motif of the imagery for that album:
The drumline guys show back up, sans masks, in the song about "Man, living in the city kinda sucks. I want a house by the seaside."
But yeah, y'all are right; as-is that sure does look terrible.
Current round - Tarkan & The Hu
The drumline guys show back up, sans masks, in the song about "Man, living in the city kinda sucks. I want a house by the seaside."
But yeah, y'all are right; as-is that sure does look terrible.
Current round - Tarkan & The Hu
Sen Başkasın
and
Yuve Yuve Yu
and
Yuve Yuve Yu
Violentvixen
(She/Her)
Johnny Unusual
(He/Him)
Nattu Nattu Yu!
Calling this set for Sen Başkasın and Yuve Yuve Yu, while I put one more set up over the weekend to keep things moving - next round will start Monday morning.
So for the first weekend match @Falselogic pulls out the big guns of Gangnam Style with Psy in Korean, but @Lumber Baron counters with the Águas De Março with Antonio Carlos Jobim & Elis Regina in Portuguese
대 / CONTRA
And in the second match, @WildcatJF is Reborn (at midnight) with Casablanca in Japanese, while @lincolnic claims "Je Suis Rick Springfield" with Jonathan Coulton in French
対 / CONTRE
So for the first weekend match @Falselogic pulls out the big guns of Gangnam Style with Psy in Korean, but @Lumber Baron counters with the Águas De Março with Antonio Carlos Jobim & Elis Regina in Portuguese
대 / CONTRA
And in the second match, @WildcatJF is Reborn (at midnight) with Casablanca in Japanese, while @lincolnic claims "Je Suis Rick Springfield" with Jonathan Coulton in French
対 / CONTRE
Violentvixen
(She/Her)
Gangnam Reborn
Águas de Rick Springfield
I like how Exposition Owl has been providing little bits of context for his entries, so I've got some for mine as well. As Jonathan Coulton explains:
Is he actually Rick Springfield? That's up to you to decide, but the folks chiming in during the bridge of the song can't seem to make heads or tails of him.
I like how Exposition Owl has been providing little bits of context for his entries, so I've got some for mine as well. As Jonathan Coulton explains:
Is he actually Rick Springfield? That's up to you to decide, but the folks chiming in during the bridge of the song can't seem to make heads or tails of him.
Souvenez-vous il y a une disque avec un chien?
Un chien qui porte une cravate, comme un homme
Je veux dire, le chien est comme un homme
Pas la cravate!
Je suis Rick Springfield
Ici dans le bar
Je suis un chic type
Qui joue la guitare
Je suis celui qui suis aux États-unis: un superstar
A la TV, il y avait un hôpital
Et j'étais un médecin, un médecin beau
Avez-vous vu cette programme?
Est-ce qu'on dit "programme"?
Je suis Rick Springfield
Ici dans le bar
Je suis un chic type
Qui joue la guitare
Je suis celui qui suis aux États-unis: un superstar
Je ne comprends pas cet idiot
Quelque chose sur un très bon chien?
Je suis Rick Springfield
Ici dans le bar
Je suis un chic type
Qui joue la guitare
Je suis celui qui suis aux États-unis: un superstar
Je suis Rick Springfield
Je suis Rick Springfield
Un chien qui porte une cravate, comme un homme
Je veux dire, le chien est comme un homme
Pas la cravate!
Je suis Rick Springfield
Ici dans le bar
Je suis un chic type
Qui joue la guitare
Je suis celui qui suis aux États-unis: un superstar
A la TV, il y avait un hôpital
Et j'étais un médecin, un médecin beau
Avez-vous vu cette programme?
Est-ce qu'on dit "programme"?
Je suis Rick Springfield
Ici dans le bar
Je suis un chic type
Qui joue la guitare
Je suis celui qui suis aux États-unis: un superstar
Je ne comprends pas cet idiot
Quelque chose sur un très bon chien?
Je suis Rick Springfield
Ici dans le bar
Je suis un chic type
Qui joue la guitare
Je suis celui qui suis aux États-unis: un superstar
Je suis Rick Springfield
Je suis Rick Springfield
Do you remember there was a record with a dog?
A dog that wears a necktie like a man.
I mean, the dog is like a man
Not the tie!
I am Rick Springfield
Here in the bar
I am a nice guy
Who plays the guitar
I am who I am in the United States: a superstar
On TV, there was a hospital
And I was a doctor, a handsome doctor
Have you seen this program?
Does one say "program"?
I am Rick Springfield
Here in the bar
I am a nice guy
Who plays the guitar
I am who I am in the United States: a superstar
I do not understand this idiot
Something about a very good dog?
I am Rick Springfield
Here in the bar
I am a nice guy
Who plays the guitar
I am who I am in the United States: a superstar
I am Rick Springfield
I am Rick Springfield
A dog that wears a necktie like a man.
I mean, the dog is like a man
Not the tie!
I am Rick Springfield
Here in the bar
I am a nice guy
Who plays the guitar
I am who I am in the United States: a superstar
On TV, there was a hospital
And I was a doctor, a handsome doctor
Have you seen this program?
Does one say "program"?
I am Rick Springfield
Here in the bar
I am a nice guy
Who plays the guitar
I am who I am in the United States: a superstar
I do not understand this idiot
Something about a very good dog?
I am Rick Springfield
Here in the bar
I am a nice guy
Who plays the guitar
I am who I am in the United States: a superstar
I am Rick Springfield
I am Rick Springfield