Lotta Marvel shows and films getting adjusted release windows now. There's gonna be a LOT of stuff comin' out next year. I guess Disney feels confident enough about the projection of how covid is going to start scheduling things again.
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To Infinity and Beyond: The Marvel Cinematic Universe
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Don Cheadle stars in an Armor Wars adaptation, eh?
Getting three MCU limited series in the first half of 2021 sounds pretty alright
Captain Marvel 2 having 2 Captains Marvel and one Ms Marvel intrigues me, especially since Captain Marvel II will be intro'd next month in Wandavision.
I'm tickled pink that the Ant-Man & The Wasp sequel follows in Thor 4 and Doc Strange 2's footsteps but a name like QUANTUMANIA inevitably makes me expect someone wrestling a tardigrade at some point and I just know no film can deliver that.
I'm tickled pink that the Ant-Man & The Wasp sequel follows in Thor 4 and Doc Strange 2's footsteps but a name like QUANTUMANIA inevitably makes me expect someone wrestling a tardigrade at some point and I just know no film can deliver that.
I've been watching the Markus & McFeely MCU movies (not counting Thor 2, which they only touched up) over the past month or so, and I just finished this morning.
The First Avenger I like this one more every time I see it. Joe Johnston is a fun director. For an early MCU movie, it's very tied into Thor (Odin is mentioned and we see the first infinity stone) and Iron Man (via Howard Stark). The rest of the movies in this series constantly reference things that happened here.
The Winter Soldier I liked The Avengers a lot, but this is the movie that really got me hooked on the MCU, and it's still my favorite. It's economically written and has so many fun action set pieces. The Russo Bros. came out of nowhere to become the best directors in the MCU.
Civil War It's really 2/3rds of an Avengers movie, but it also does a great job of continuing the threads from the first two movies. It also effortlessly introduces both Black Panther and Spider-Man.
Infinity War Is this even a movie? I don't know, but it's a lot of fun. This one assumes that you know Thor & The Hulk, but it does a great job of introducing Thanos and the Guardians of the Galaxy to the audience. Cap is barely in it, but he does get the last line. It mostly serves to set up:
Endgame Each of these movies escalates things from the previous one, and you can't get any bigger than Endgame. It's like 1/4 serious, 1/4 comedy, 1/4 madcap time heist, and 1/4 over-the-top final battle. It's a direct follow up to Infinity War, and a cap on the MCU up to this point, but it also concludes the storyline that started in The First Avenger.
These almost work as a standalone series of 5 movies that just happen to include a massively expanding cast of extremely famous people as it goes on. The only real speedbump is that Thor & Hulk are only mentioned once before Infinity War, but then suddenly become main characters. Also, the importance of Cap picking up Thor's hammer is not explained in these movies. All it really needs is The Avengers to set things up a bit early on. There you go, a great 6 movie series.
The First Avenger I like this one more every time I see it. Joe Johnston is a fun director. For an early MCU movie, it's very tied into Thor (Odin is mentioned and we see the first infinity stone) and Iron Man (via Howard Stark). The rest of the movies in this series constantly reference things that happened here.
The Winter Soldier I liked The Avengers a lot, but this is the movie that really got me hooked on the MCU, and it's still my favorite. It's economically written and has so many fun action set pieces. The Russo Bros. came out of nowhere to become the best directors in the MCU.
Civil War It's really 2/3rds of an Avengers movie, but it also does a great job of continuing the threads from the first two movies. It also effortlessly introduces both Black Panther and Spider-Man.
Infinity War Is this even a movie? I don't know, but it's a lot of fun. This one assumes that you know Thor & The Hulk, but it does a great job of introducing Thanos and the Guardians of the Galaxy to the audience. Cap is barely in it, but he does get the last line. It mostly serves to set up:
Endgame Each of these movies escalates things from the previous one, and you can't get any bigger than Endgame. It's like 1/4 serious, 1/4 comedy, 1/4 madcap time heist, and 1/4 over-the-top final battle. It's a direct follow up to Infinity War, and a cap on the MCU up to this point, but it also concludes the storyline that started in The First Avenger.
These almost work as a standalone series of 5 movies that just happen to include a massively expanding cast of extremely famous people as it goes on. The only real speedbump is that Thor & Hulk are only mentioned once before Infinity War, but then suddenly become main characters. Also, the importance of Cap picking up Thor's hammer is not explained in these movies. All it really needs is The Avengers to set things up a bit early on. There you go, a great 6 movie series.
Note that Jim Davis already made Into the Garfieldverse...
I love that book and would buy a reissue.
I know this was tongue-in-cheek, but I'll take any opportunity to praise Infinity War, which I think has one of the stronger thematic throughlines in any of the big cornerstones of the MCU. If the archive was up, I'd just quote an old post of mine, but the whole movie is a series of scenarios where one character considers sacrificing someone else to gain a small victory. In every case except one, the characters either refuse, or they try it and end up right back where they started. And that one exception is when Thanos, the villain of the piece who only wants terrible things, makes the sacrifice. There's a lot of setup, a lot of characters, and a lot of running around in that movie, but there's also a consistent thematic argument being laid with just about every sequence.
Oh, yeah. I agree with your analysis, and I find more scenes that fit that theme every time I watch it.
My comment wasn't about its quality, but how it has a non-traditional traditional story arc and how it depends on other movies to support it. Other movies in the series function as movies on their own first and are full of references to other movies, or act as sequels to or set up multiple movies. Infinity War is really something else. It's more like a chapter in a book where they can assume that everyone read enough of the previous chapters to make sense of it.
My comment wasn't about its quality, but how it has a non-traditional traditional story arc and how it depends on other movies to support it. Other movies in the series function as movies on their own first and are full of references to other movies, or act as sequels to or set up multiple movies. Infinity War is really something else. It's more like a chapter in a book where they can assume that everyone read enough of the previous chapters to make sense of it.
When people complain that the Marvel movies aren't real movies for reasons like this my thought is basically yeah, so what
No one's mentioned yet that Disney also announced a Fantastic Four movie. Now all they need are the X-Men and more of Spider-Man's oeuvre...
If I were Disney, I'd hold onto the X-Men until I needed a big pop in the MCU. Their entrance into the canon is probably the largest trump card they currently have to reinvigorate interest.
People will *gobble* up all the new content releasing next year because of the drought from this year. No issues there, I think. We'll have to see how this new restructuring fares in audience appeal over the long term, however.
I'm starting to see this in wrestling story terms and I don't know if that's awesome or not.
People will *gobble* up all the new content releasing next year because of the drought from this year. No issues there, I think. We'll have to see how this new restructuring fares in audience appeal over the long term, however.
I'm starting to see this in wrestling story terms and I don't know if that's awesome or not.
Such is my love of the FF that, even despite the last few FF movies, the announcement that there's a new one coming has me *quite happy*
Few years ago, on the ol' Return of TT, we came up with some fanfic about how Marvel could introduce Doom and the F4 to the MCU. I gotta say, after the last five years, I have absolutely zero doubt that they can write a despotic demagogue loved by his own, oppressed people.
I'd still like the F4 themselves to originate in the 50s/early 60s and get modern-world culture shock. And I'm also, still, rooting for Molecule Man.
I'd still like the F4 themselves to originate in the 50s/early 60s and get modern-world culture shock. And I'm also, still, rooting for Molecule Man.
I’ve been thinking about who I’d want cast in my dream FF movie, and, honestly, all I got was really wanting Tim Meadows as Willie Lumpkin
Have they announced casting? Because there's this Chris Evans guy, he'd make a great Torch...
Relieved, since it’s the one you can pirate without repercussions
The guy who played one of the ex-boyfriends in Scott Pilgrim? Has he been in anything else?
Johnny Unusual
(He/Him)
He was in Knives Out, which I gather is a Scott Pilgrim spin-off about one character embracing her homosexuality. I won't spoil which one...
Yes. In some scenes he displays the perfect level of douchebagginess to play Johnny.
I kind of want Chris Pine as Johnny, partly to further cement my confusion between him and Chris Evans, and mostly because he’s the only Handsome Chris to not have a role in the MCU, and there should be a complete set
I mean, I get it. It's great for the hardcore fan and helps rope in curious people to watch the connecting stuff. But it can be alienating at times for casual viewers if they feel like they're missing out of stuff b/c they haven't seen all the other stuff leading up to it. But like, these are the kinds of things movie execs are paid to care and worry about, and it's way above our pay grade to care and we really shouldn't. The evolution of American public discourse into armchair punditry has been a strange one.
If box office returns have proven anything it's that asking fans to watch every movie in a series is not hurting them
It is precisely the content I want, in the portions I need
By my understanding, the actual films are:
Black Widow (which was announced ages ago and should have released in May.)
Shang-Chi
Eternals
Spider-Man 3: When Tobey Comes Marching Home
Doc Strange 2
Thor Fhor
Black Pan2r
Captain MarveII
ARE YOU READY FOR QUANTUMANIAAAAAA
Guardians of the Galaxy 3: Peter Smooches Adam
Blade
Fantastic Third Time's The Charm
Among the TV shows, a couple of those are either animated series, like Uatu If and Groot, or specials like the GotG Christmas In Space. But that's still 10 full-fledged live-action series, which can definitely feel overwhelming. Especially if they explicitly connect with the films, like Wandavision, Loki, and Ms Marvel will.
Did they say that Loki and Ms Marvel we’re going to connect to the movies?
I can’t imagine Loki wouldn’t, but neither more or less than Falcon and Soldier
I can’t imagine Loki wouldn’t, but neither more or less than Falcon and Soldier
Both Monica Rambeau and Kamala have been officially confirmed for Marvel 2: Photon Boogaloo, so that ties Wandavision and Ms Marvel to the film. I'm pretty sure it was mentioned that Loki's multiverse shenenigans will also tie into the Muuuuultiverse of MAAAADnesss, but I can't find ironclad confirmation for it like there is for Wandavision.
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