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To Infinity and Beyond: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

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REVOLUTION GRRR STYLE NOW
(he / him / his)
Wait, Monica was 10~12 in 1995 for Captain Marvel. How can she be in 70s clothes when she's blasted through time/through the simulation/through whatever that was by Wanda?

Unless SWORD/the govt are aware of Wanda's little pocket reality and they specifically sent Monica in there in period-appropriate clothes to do recon?
I mean... we know that Wanda is a co-lead in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. It would make sense that we're dealing with multiverse stuff here!
 

Vaeran

yeah yeah yeah yeah
(he/him)
I was kind of hoping Black Widow would come to Disney+ this year, but oh well. I'M STILL HYPE FOR IT
 

Kishi

Little Waves
(They/Them)
Staff member
Moderator
That's a full year from Widow's original release date. Also interesting that Eternals and Shang-Chi have switched order. Wonder what the thinking was there.
 

Zef

Find Your Reason
(He/Him)
"Even though Trolls 2 was on the news for weeks claiming that it broke Hollywood's theatrical release model, we still don't believe in streaming and we still want to charge $15+ per person per showing AND the $20 home release instead of charging a single digital download fee where we can't control the number of people who watch. Even if we have to delay our releases a whole year and lose more and more money as time goes on."
 

Nich

stuck in baby prison
(he/him)
Zef, it's not purely a matter of economics. The studios have to weigh any potential profits (which obviously exist, as in the instances such as Trolls 2 that you cite) against the damage to their relationship with theater chains. It's the same delicate dance that you're seeing with the Xbox Series S/X and the PS5 disc/no-disc variations: obviously, an all-digital model would be preferred by the platform holders, but they can't afford to alienate their retail partners to such an extent.
 

Zef

Find Your Reason
(He/Him)
Point. I'm wondering, if the bigger chains have their own streaming platforms already (I certainly get bombarded by AMC emails enough) if it could have been feasible to offer "timed exclusive" streaming through those services. It would hurt the smaller chains, though...
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
That's a full year from Widow's original release date. Also interesting that Eternals and Shang-Chi have switched order. Wonder what the thinking was there.
Since the two movies were announced, my enthusiasm for Shang-Chi has only increased, and my indifference to The Eternals remains as minimal as it ever was, so they MAY have just looked at my own personal tastes and extrapolated from there.
 

gogglebob

The Goggles Do Nothing
(he/him)
Point. I'm wondering, if the bigger chains have their own streaming platforms already (I certainly get bombarded by AMC emails enough) if it could have been feasible to offer "timed exclusive" streaming through those services. It would hurt the smaller chains, though...
Also, by accounts that I've seen, the "plan" for Mulan's "home release" was a failure, or at least it wasn't ultimately as successful as Trolls 2. I don't think it's a coincidence that this has been formally announced after the dust has settled on Disney+'s other big anti-theatrical release.
 

Johnny Unusual

(He/Him)
Frankly, I am happy to wait to see Marvel movies in the theater. I feel like 1) it can be enjoyed at home but will feel less like an event 2) it should be released only when the world is ready and safe. A safer release will definitely make more money because it will make people feel like the world is getting something closer to normal. There are probably other reasons but while I don't think streaming is somehow "lesser" or less legitimate but I would rather see it in a theatre but without the Christopher Nolan "YOU MUST SEE IT IN THE THEATRE DIE FOR MY ART" capacity.
 

BEAT

LOUDSKULL
(DUDE/BRO)
Also, by accounts that I've seen, the "plan" for Mulan's "home release" was a failure, or at least it wasn't ultimately as successful as Trolls 2. I don't think it's a coincidence that this has been formally announced after the dust has settled on Disney+'s other big anti-theatrical release.
Probably had something to do with Disney+ Exclusivitiy.

When Trolls 2 Came out, my smart TV was going "HEY HERE'S ALL 7 WAYS YOU CAN WATCH THIS! the second I turned it on. And while I FUCKING HATE that my TV now advertises to me every time I turn it on, I was definitely aware that I could use it to watch Trolls 2!

I didn't see shit for Mulan though, because I don't have Disney Plus. And even If I wanted to see it, I probably wouldn't have gone to the hassle of getting a subscription AND paying the premium watch fee.

Basically Fuck Disney.
 

BEAT

LOUDSKULL
(DUDE/BRO)
Like there are still 3 or 4 "THE SECRET MEANING OF INCEPTION EXPLAINED!" video essays getting tossed to youtube's algorithm every single week, but not even the people who were willing to die for Tenet are talking about it.
 
No, you're right.

The original source (Variety, not the AV Club) reports that it's a new show with Jackson "attached to star" and says who the writer/executive producer of the new show will be. The writer/producer for the new show starring Jackson is not the writer/producer for Falcon or WandaVision or Ms. Marvel or any other previously announced show. (It's Kyle Bradstreet, who also did some writing and production for Mr. Robot.)

That's not news saying "he'll probably be heavily present in [other] shows." If there is not a new show starring Jackson and written/EP'd by Kyle Bradstreet, it will mean the reporting is wrong. But Johnny Unusual is correct that this is what the reporting says.
 
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Since the two movies were announced, my enthusiasm for Shang-Chi has only increased, and my indifference to The Eternals remains as minimal as it ever was, so they MAY have just looked at my own personal tastes and extrapolated from there.
honestly, the thing that makes me most interested in Eternals is the director, Chloe Zhao. Her first two indie films got excellent reviews, and her film Nomadland from this year with Frances McDormand won the Golden Lion at the Venice Film Festival and the People's Choice Award at the Toronto Film Festival - first time that a film's taken the top prize at both of those festivals. It already has Oscar buzz.

if I had to guess on the do-si-do of scheduling, it's that the Disney+ schedule for the MCU miniseries got rearranged, and there's stuff in one of the later-running series that ties into Eternals.
 

Jeanie

(Fem or Gender Neutral)
Like there are still 3 or 4 "THE SECRET MEANING OF INCEPTION EXPLAINED!" video essays getting tossed to youtube's algorithm every single week, but not even the people who were willing to die for Tenet are talking about it.
I still don't know what it's about. No one talks about it outside of "Chris Nolan's Tenet".
 

Mightyblue

aggro table, shmaggro table
(He/Him/His)
I can go into a bit of detail, got dragged to a empty theater to see it a week or so ago; it's a action-thriller based around intersecting and inverted timeframes. Basically some far-future faction of humanity decided to fuck over the past in order to prevent some unnamed global catastrophe, and invented several things including some kind of world-ending macguffin and a device that can invert the flow of time for matter placed inside it. This has created a kind of temporal cold war, where present and near-future/past factions fight to prevent the macguffin from being assembled or to assemble it on behalf of the far-future guys.

The movie is constructed such that you see events in the regular timeframe with the inverted events happening at the same time, with snippets of inverted POV here and there (helpfully distinguished by blueshifting the footage). By the time you've hit the halfway mark the movie's already given you all the pieces to assemble what's going on with the plot through both, but until you pick up on the trick with learning about the existence of an inverted timeframe, you're unable to piece them together to form the whole picture.

It's an absolute masterwork of design and craft in service of an entirely deconstructed narrative that is entirely weightless because the attention and thought required to parse that in real-time robs the plot of any real stakes, especially with Nolan's decision to make the macguffin an ontological weapon of all goddamned things which is a decision that almost seems designed to lose an audience who is going to wonder how an algorithm is supposed to end existence. I think I snorted out loud when that bit got revealed past the halfway mark.

Would I recommend people see it? Yes, but less because it's an action movie, and more because I am absolutely astonished that Nolan managed to cram a high-concept sci-fi movie into a bog standard spy thriller. Definitely should wait until you don't have to risk yon plague though.
 

SpoonyBard

A Bard Named SPOONY
(He/Him)
Honestly not sure whether to put this here or in the Disney+ thread but whatevs, it's more Marvel-centric.

Ms. Marvel has been cast!

I'm still not sure how they're going to represent her powers on a TV budget, even a Disney-backed streaming budget, but I can't wait to see it regardless!
 
Oh jeeze, that looks dreadful. Like they wanted to make their own Harley Quinn, but it's a bad family sitcom and also Robot Chicken. Big big yikes.

Also makes perfect sense that it's on Hulu. Since the clips seem pretty violent, and Disney+ is their family-oriented service with tons of censorship, and Hulu is the place where adults go watch TV.
 

SpoonyBard

A Bard Named SPOONY
(He/Him)
I am... not here for that MODOK. Eeesh. I'm all for going in a comedic direction for the character, like Gwenpool and West Coast Avengers did recently, but even putting aside the robot chicken presentation this just feels really low effort.

Anyway.

On top of bringing back Amazing Spider Man 2's Electro in the next MCU Spidey film, there's now a rumor that McGuire and Garfield have signed on as well. So I guess they just really want a live-action Spiderverse?
 
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