Johnny Unusual
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To Infinity and Beyond: The Marvel Cinematic Universe
- Thread starter Vaeran
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Good catch!
My guess was "No Place Like Home"
Eh, sort of, but I don’t think it’s totally unwarranted. Vaccine rollout is going ok. As long as the mutant strains don’t make the vaccine completely useless, it’s achievable.
I think that, collectively, people dispensing spoilers (and Marvel) thought that the closing theme and the fabulousness of the associated character were so memetic as to be exempt from spoiler status.
I mean, it's a topic well worth gushing about, but like with the endless Mandalorian spoilers before it, I wish people realized a) not everyone has the time or availability to watch at the same pace as the hardcore fans and b) people trying to avoid spoilers by muting words or sentences can't exactly prophesize which words or sentences will become spoilers.
Sprite
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It's especially bizarre because the song is called "It Was ______ All Along" in the credits. The show didn't want to spoil something I had just watched!
I can't argue with her being fabulous. I foresee a lot of drag acts springing forth from Kathryn Hahn's flawless performance.
I can't argue with her being fabulous. I foresee a lot of drag acts springing forth from Kathryn Hahn's flawless performance.
Johnny Unusual
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Heck, it could be a whole evening of seven acts.
Johnny Unusual
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Turns out the basement they are in is locked from the outside and need to kill time until someone opens the door.
This but only mildly ironically. I stand fully by my assessment that Agatha is not a full-baddie and feel mildly vindicated by this episode. Actually quite the tragic character who seems to be good natured.
Pretty good episode. Great twists. Also everyone make sure to watch the mid-credits sequence.
Not sure about that? Her actions and even exposition throughout were pretty villainous, even if only to mock or demean Wanda. Plus there was that "I bent the rules to my will" and draining the life out of her whole coven (including her mother) in what looked less like self-defense and a lot more like allowing the dark forces she had unleashed to run rampant on everyone.
This episode did answer and/or confirm a bunch of questions and low-level conjectures fans had, but raised just as many. Ep 9 has a LOT of plot points to resolve now and I wonder what will be concluded now and what will be left up to the Strange movie.
(I honestly didn't expect to have both Magenta Viz and White Viz at the same time
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...huh. Yeah, that's about right. Puts that scene in Endgame under a whole new light now.
I hadn't connected the dots that way, but yes, you are 100% right lol
I do not agree! I think the only actions she's taken that approach villainous was offing the dog, and prisoning the kids. Even then, I don't really think those are the worst things because within context they were used to serve a more important, higher purpose. And not even close to the level of messed up that Wanda is inflicting on an entire city, but we're still supposed to be rooting for Wanda. In the beginning of the episode, she's being murdered by a coven and her own mother for the dastardly offense of... *checks notes* being a kid with a thirst for knowledge. Flash forward to the future, all she's done is try to gently coax Wanda out of her self-imposed trance and figure out how she's even doing this insane stuff. Killing the dog was about forcing Wanda to have to confront sadness/grief again, and holding the kids hostage was a last resort since Wanda was belligerently refusing to confront reality despite everything that's happened up until now. At the end of the episode when she learns the truth about Wanda, she throws down not in order to steal Wanda's powers for herself like you'd imagine a power-hungry, megalomaniacal villain to do, but because she finally truly grasps the full scope and danger of Wanda's powers and how big of a threat she is to the world. But here's the catch. If she really wanted to kill Wanda and/or steal her powers, she could have simply done it in the tunnels where Wanda was rendered powerless. I really don't think she's a bad. Or at least, superbad. She's more of a Loki-style antagonist at the very worst. They're definitely positioning Mr Sword and his zombie-Vision for that role instead I think.
It's weird how in the span of a decade, Hawkeye went from my favorite Avenger to the one I loathe the most.
Yeah, they're playing with some fun morally grey areas in this show. On a related note, the lack of leadership/a firm moral compass in the post-Endgame Avengers/MCU is pretty glaring here. Like, if this happened in the past, Tony would have airlifted Cap and Nat into the situation to take point and to try and talk Wanda down.
Oh absolutely.
And also--in Ep 9 we're shown that just remnants of Wanda's power on the drone (Chaos, Mind Stone, or likely the combo of both) were enough to reactivate Vision's body. So I just realized that, in Age of Ultron, when she reads said body as Ultron is downloading himself into it... how much of that power was left in it?
And if a little bit of her remained there, is that the reason they felt such a strong connection with each other, far beyond simply the Mind Stone energy that A:IW implied?
I still want to know how SWORD cut into and dissected Viz's vibranium body, and also how they filled in the hole in his head and with what. That new gem on his forehead was put there for a reason. Sure, Viz turned gray when he died, but I don't think that "deactivated" the vibranium the same way Shuri does with sound waves.
And also--in Ep 9 we're shown that just remnants of Wanda's power on the drone (Chaos, Mind Stone, or likely the combo of both) were enough to reactivate Vision's body. So I just realized that, in Age of Ultron, when she reads said body as Ultron is downloading himself into it... how much of that power was left in it?
And if a little bit of her remained there, is that the reason they felt such a strong connection with each other, far beyond simply the Mind Stone energy that A:IW implied?I still want to know how SWORD cut into and dissected Viz's vibranium body, and also how they filled in the hole in his head and with what. That new gem on his forehead was put there for a reason. Sure, Viz turned gray when he died, but I don't think that "deactivated" the vibranium the same way Shuri does with sound waves.
chady
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It makes me wonder what Dr. Strange is up to right now, if the magical energies being thrown around by Wanda were enough to attract Agatha Harkness. I know Wanda is supposedly in the next Strange film, so maybe he'll show up in the last episode?
I love that Wanda had powers before the mind stone, and that throwaway line about the other subjects not surviving means that it's arguable that those powers are what allowed her to survive Hydra's experimentation with the stone.
Boy that episode sure recontextualized a lot of the show
I called White Vision too! I don’t think in this thread specifically, but I was sure he was coming ever since seeing Zombie Vision back in episode 3.
This episode did a great job of showing Wanda is just as ridiculously powerful as Carol, in the exact opposite way.
Man! This is a good tv show!
This episode did a great job of showing Wanda is just as ridiculously powerful as Carol, in the exact opposite way.
Man! This is a good tv show!
I thought this was the finale and I was like “wow, that’s really abrupt and inconclusive.” Well, it wasn’t.
