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The High Definition Retrogaming Thread (Including CRT/BVM/PVM Chatter)

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
Oh, no, I don't want to do it myself, I'm looking at sending my NES to Voultar to have him do it, because yeah, I don't have a proper desoldering gun.
 

John

(he/him)
His site says he only does the installation service, so you’d have to source the kit on your own.
 

John

(he/him)
Ah, that’s the RGB kit, not HDMI. That’s found everywhere, and can get you the s-video you’re looking for, which I glossed over on your original post. Sorry!
 

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
I wondered what the disconnect between us was haha. Nbd. Are you aware of a cheaper source for the RGB kit?
 

John

(he/him)
I think Tim Worthington’s the only one to distribute his kits, so that’s probably the best you’ll find. Although… looking through my email, I apparently bought one for a front loader after the whole HDMI debacle, and I’ve never installed it. If I can find it, I’ll PM you.
 

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
I think Tim Worthington’s the only one to distribute his kits, so that’s probably the best you’ll find. Although… looking through my email, I apparently bought one for a front loader after the whole HDMI debacle, and I’ve never installed it. If I can find it, I’ll PM you.
Oh *shit*, that'd be fantastic. Let me know, thanks!
 

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
Hey @John and/or @Sarge and/or anyone else who might know - I was able to desolder the PPU from my backup NES! Before I start messing with the RGB mod, can you help me source a cable(s) that I would use to connect s-video to my TV? I'm not sure what cable to purchase, since I'm not doing the SNES multiout mod. According to this page, it's an 8 pin din cable, but I don't really know what that means.

Basically, I want to buy the cable, get everything together, then attempt doing the rest of the mod before I put any more work into it. Appreciate any help. Thank you!

EDIT: Oh wait, derp, is it this? Should have checked the shop of the guy who makes it first lol. Does that output audio too?
 
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ShakeWell

Slam Master
(he, etc.)
I'm thinking about doing this next year with my NES actually, since his price isn't too bad (just want S-video, not the hidef one). How long does it typically take? I mean, it's fine regardless, but is this something that took months for you, or was it fairly quick?

It was pretty fast, iirc. A month or so?
 

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
John let me know on Twitter that it is the cable I want, and that the audio would come through the regular audio A/V out port on the side, which is fine by me (I don't care about stereo audio or anything like that, mono is fine. I'm not even modding my NES to allow it to do Disk System audio).
 

Sarge

hardcore retro gamin'
Interesting... although expansion audio is super easy to do. I'm thinking about swapping out my simple resistor for a 100K potentiometer, though, so I can tweak it a bit depending on the game/audio mix.
 

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
I'd heard it was pretty simple, but yeah, I don't want to have to open the system up every time I want to tweak the audio. Also I've read just adding the resistor gives wildly varying sound quality so I didn't want to mess with it. Castlemania Games teased a mod pcb a few months ago to deal with the above issues, but no word yet on when/if it'll come out. They're probably being affected by supply chain issues like everyone else is right now, anyway.
 

Sarge

hardcore retro gamin'
I'll run some wires to the outside of the case and mount it there instead when I finally get around to it. But yeah, a plug-and-play solution (I think I saw one that was similar to the ENIO board for frontloaders, maybe that's the one you're talking about?) would be really ideal.
 

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
This was the post I'd found while looking through the NES board on reddit for other info. It doesn't really explain what it does/how it works, so who knows if it'll be better than a potentiometer.
 

lincolnic

can stop, will stop
(he/him)
Trying to figure out if I should jump on an Analogue Pocket pre-order tomorrow. I wasn't that interested until I started reading about the Analogue OS update they're going to release in January. Specifically the parts about how it supports save states, it's made to have other FPGA cores ported, and there's even a second FPGA included for that purpose:

Pocket is designed to be as easy as possible to develop and port FPGA cores to. We added a second dedicated FPGA just for developers to develop & port their own cores. Developers will be able to interface with Analogue OS: Library, Memories and Tools. And to Pocket hardware, I/O's and scalers.

And in this Polygon interview from a couple of months ago, Analogue spoke a little more about it:

In addition to the new features coming to AnalogueOS, Taber shared some information on the Pocket’s additional developer-facing FPGA. “Pocket has been purpose built with the optimal hardware to make development and porting pre-existing [FPGA] cores a breeze. Off-the-shelf dev boards are naturally not built for this exact purpose; they’re pricey, require tons of add-ons, difficult technical setup for most users and limitations that cannot be ideally solved (namely different kinds of RAM) without building something exactly for this purpose from the ground up,” Taber notes, clearly targeting the MiSTer platform’s DIY approach, and immense library of cores. “You can expect to see pretty much every single third-party FPGA core out there on Pocket."

“For the non-dev end user, it is as simple as dropping an FPGA core onto Pocket and it will be served by our Library and Database offering an unparalleled experience.”

Marketing hype aside, I'm wondering: does this mean that the Pocket is being set up to become a portable MiSTer, with built-in save state support? I know very little about FPGAs, so if anyone can confirm/deny if this is what I think it is, that'd be very helpful!

I already own a Super NT, but Analogue has said that they don't plan to bring Analogue OS to that hardware. If the Pocket will do everything the MiSTer currently does, plus save states and portability, that might be the ultimate retrogaming solution for me.
 
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MCBanjoMike

Sudden chomper
(He/him)
I highly doubt that the secondary FPGA on the Pocket will be as powerful as the one that powers the MiSTer. The DE-10 is a fairly capable FPGA board that's only really affordable because Intel subsidizes them for educational purposes. So I wouldn't be surprised if the community can get NES/SNES/Genesis cores to work on the Pocket, but I'd be surprised to see stuff like Neo Geo, PlayStation and Saturn. That said, I don't actually know how many logic gates the secondary FPGA has, and the DE-10 recently got a price hike that makes it less of a bargain than it was before. But it's always dicey to buy something like this based off features that it might have, someday. The Super Nt never got the extra 8-bit cores that the Nt Mini did, for example.
 

Sarge

hardcore retro gamin'
I do agree that it likely won't pull off the bigger cores, but just 16-bit and beneath would be really, really cool. But then again, I've got a Steam Deck on preorder, and I wonder if that will be sufficient for my needs. Probably so. Still, though, the temptation to jump on this particular wagon is strong.
 

Kirin

Summon for hire
(he/him)
I already own a Super NT, but Analogue has said that they don't plan to bring Analogue OS to that hardware.

Awww. (I get that it probably doesn't have the hardware setup to make it easy in there, but dang, it'd be cool to get more cores in that box too.)
 

Sprite

(He/Him/His)
I mean, the “good” news is that even if you order it tomorrow you won’t get it for a really long time, so you could cancel your preorder if it doesn’t shake out the way you hoped.

The actual good news is that they’re doing open orders, so even if it takes years, I’ll be able to get one.
 

Sarge

hardcore retro gamin'
So the core of the system is apparently the Cyclone V, which is the same family FPGA in the DE10-Nano, and will be the "public core" option. It also has a Cyclone 10, and someone speculates that probably does scaler work and the like.

It's stated the Cyclone V has 49,000 logic elements, so it's probably the Cyclone® V 5CEA4 FPGA. The DE10-Nano uses one of the variants with an ARM processor embedded and 110,000 logic elements. So hopefully smaller MiSTer cores will port over pretty easily.
 

lincolnic

can stop, will stop
(he/him)
I mean, the “good” news is that even if you order it tomorrow you won’t get it for a really long time, so you could cancel your preorder if it doesn’t shake out the way you hoped.

The actual good news is that they’re doing open orders, so even if it takes years, I’ll be able to get one.
Yeah, that's true. If the OS updates in January and I don't receive my theoretical preorder until a few months later (at best), it seems pretty likely that someone will figure out what cores this thing's capable of supporting before I get my hands on one. Might be worth putting an order in and canceling it if it doesn't end up being what I'd hoped. Still not sure!
 

Yimothy

Red Plane
(he/him)
Me too, though I’m keeping the option to cancel in mind. I’d really like the NGPC adapter, which isn’t available yet, and I’d rather not pay their astronomical international shipping fee again to get it. I’m hoping it’ll become available before my order ships and I’ll be able to add it on. Also hoping I’m in the Q1 2022 group, but I guess I have to wait to find out.
 

lincolnic

can stop, will stop
(he/him)
Yeah, I went for it too, though at this point I'm mostly expecting to cancel at some point. The deciding factor will be how quickly people end up getting other cores to work/which cores end up working. I didn't put in the order until around half an hour after they'd opened up, so I fully expect to get put in the 2023 group anyway. Should be plenty of time to see how this thing shakes out before then!
 

MCBanjoMike

Sudden chomper
(He/him)
I’d rather not pay their astronomical international shipping fee again to get it.
Yeah, the shipping on my Super Nt was $50 USD, and with the duties on top of that it really boosted the price of the console. It's what has kept me from getting the DAC for it, too.
 

Sarge

hardcore retro gamin'
In retrospect, I maybe should have considered getting the Game Gear adapter, but then again... assuming it gets jailbroken I won't care.
 

ASandoval

Old Man Gamer
(he/him)
Also jumped on this. I'm hoping people put more cores on it as well but I'll just be happy to have a portable device for the supported games either way (and also maybe use it as a devkit some day...)
 

Sprite

(He/Him/His)
I also ordered the thing. All my Game Boys are broken and I want a new one!

One thing I can’t find: is it compatible with the GBA-to-Gamecube cable?
 
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