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Mr Bean

Chief Detective
I’ve had some extra free time to catch up on my backlog and ended up watching spider isekai. I quite enjoyed it! Between this and Ascendence of a Bookworm I seem to have a taste for protagonists who have to work for their overpowered nonsense.

Oddtaxi is next in the queue I think. I enjoy a good mystery.

Also related - here’s a clip that popped into my YouTube algorithm today of a drummer ad-libbing accompaniment to spider ED and having the time of his life doing it.
 

JBear

Internet's foremost Bertolli cosplayer
(He/Him)
I have every confidence that it will be very pretty. Were I inclined to set foot in a theatre during a pandemic, and if it were available in Canada (might be; can't be arsed to check), that well be enough to put my butt in a seat, given that pretty things are nice to look at on a big screen.
 
I have every confidence that it will be very pretty. Were I inclined to set foot in a theatre during a pandemic, and if it were available in Canada (might be; can't be arsed to check), that well be enough to put my butt in a seat, given that pretty things are nice to look at on a big screen.

So I caught this yesterday, and while it was nice looking I actually was kind of meh on it in the end. As a point of reference I saw it subbed, and my only experience with the franchise is watching the TV series.

Visually, it looks a bit better than the TV series, but that was already pretty high point of comparison, so it doesn't feel like a big step up like when some other series get a movie. I wasn't a big fan of the heavy use of CG for the middle third of the movie.

I have a few other issues with the movie, the biggest being that it's really a movie about Rengoku in the end, which as a TV only viewer, is a character I barely know and don't have any real investment in. The movie tries to give him more character and a backstory, but it can only do so much with the time it has.

The second issue is that the main villain gets no motivation or backstory, which was one of the strengths of the TV series IMO. He is just "LOL, I'm evil, I want to be eviler." The "surprise" villain is even worse, he just shows up so the movie can have Rengoku participate in big fight.

My final complaint is that there is very little interaction between the three leads, just a bit at the beginning and end. The movie really does feel like a superfluous bit of content. I have a hard time understanding how it was such a hit, it's nowhere near the quality of the movies it's now out grossed like Spirited Away.

Just watch it on demand in a month or two when it hits all the major digital stores.

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I still fully intend to do a big effort post on Escaflowne, but plans for that got pushed back after I also watched The Movie for the first time which is a whole other can of worms and evoked a lot of strong responses and thoughts.

But in the immediate aftermath, I threw down money to get the BDs of the show. And with them came a redemption code to get access to the digital copy via Funimation. Which I don't need because 1) uh, I have my own digital copies, 2) I'm happy with just the BDs, 3) I currently subscribe to Funimation anyways which already gives you access to both the show and film in 1080p so they're redundant. So if anyone wants this digital code, gimmie a holler, I'll pm it to ya. You'll have to make a Funimation account first, and this code will probably only work if you live in the US. But if anyone wants to give it a go lemme know, otherwise this code will rot.

Edit: ThornGhost has claimed this key!
 
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clarice

bebadosamba
Just finished Patlabor (TV series). The last episode is such a good finish to the series, being about Noa's feeling about change and the passage of time. The feelings of Noa for an inanimate object mirrors the feelings of a lot of viewers like myself for Patlabor, too, i think. Anyway, love it - i love these characters.

Early in the year i watched the first OVA series. Now onwards to New Files... And then the three movies...
 

Johnny Unusual

(He/Him)
If anyone is sleeping on it, three episodes in and Vivy is really good. Robot Idol must save the future with the help of the world's least trustworthy teddy bear on a mission that takes place over the course of 100 years.
 

q 3

Posts: 4,731,901
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In case you haven't already overheard the cacophony of a million nerds relitigating eight-year-old arguments, another Madoka Magica sequel movie has been announced. Like, as in, an actual follow up to Rebellion. In the year of our Goddess 2021. What a world. Evidently the Japanese title is literally untranslatable, so I'm rooting for Madoka 3.0 + 1.0: Homura Did (Nothing) Wrong.
 
Escaflowne. I've been putting off talking about it in depth for a bit now. I've just got too many thoughts, and sorting them out is a task and a half. I'm sure most angles on this show have been discussed at length on these boards before, so bare with me if I go over stuff already said ad nauseum.

Music: I don't gotta tell anyone on this board how good Yoko Kanno's music is. But while I'm sure the reputation of the show's music is strong, it's weirdly, not *that* great? I mean, it's still just objectively a really good soundtrack. But if you just extract Escaflowne's OST from its context and just listen to it on its own, it's probably not in the top half of her output. There's maybe half the number of tracks to the TV show that a similar length show like Cowboy Bebop enjoyed the benefit of, so there is heavy reuse of certain specific songs and motifs, and there just isn't a lot of variety in the soundtrack either. Which is both a strength and a weakness, as it lends the show a certain consistent feel/tone, while probably not giving certain settings within Gaea enough of their own personality despite the inherent diversity of the setting itself. But oh man, does Escaflowne know how to use its soundtrack to the fullest. I will harp on this point until the day I die, but the musical accompaniment of the best pieces of media lets their soundtrack really shine and treats it like another cast member that deserves screen time and focus. And Escaflowne knows how to do this really well. Most anime music (really any visual medium) is completely disposable, but here it not just shapes the mood of the show, but is expertly arranged and timed to the choreography of the show to bring the most out of individual moments.

Cast: The Japanese voice cast in this show is crazy strong. There are so many heavy hitter in this show from top to bottom, and there's a lot of really iconic performances in this as well. Starting at the top billing with Maaya Sakamoto. Who is one of the most prolific, talented, wide-ranging talents there ever was, but this is essentially her breakout performance. And that she does such an incredible job here not just as Hitomi, but as the vocalist for the show's songs as well, is just All-Star material. Like Magic Johnson winning an NBA Championship in his rookie year while also playing minutes at Center while being a PG. I really can't understate how good of an actress Sakamoto is. Most anime fans will probably recognize her work in at least one or two of their favorite shows, since she's literally everywhere doing everything. But it's a shame that until very recently most localized games were dub-only, because for sure people would also recognize her videogame work as well. (She plays both Aerith and Lightning from FF7 and 13 respectively, to give you an idea of the kind of range she has as an actress.) And that's just Hitomi. The rest of the cast is just as noteworthy. Tomokazu Seki as Vaan and Shinichiro Miki as Allen are such great performances that they'd form the basis for the men being typecasted through their careers. Minami Takayama as Dilandau is another one where her range and gender fluidity as an actress was a match made in heaven. And there's no better choice for Merle than Ikue Ootani, the voice of Pikachu.

Staff: Looking through a list of the show's staff is like looking at this weird nexus where all this crazy talented people from across the industry managed to be in the same place at the same time working on this same project. There's some really good writers and animators that got their hands on this project. Toshihiro Kawamoto doing animation direction is like getting Barry Bonds to bat 4th in your rotation. Nobuteru Yuki doing the character designs is heavily under rated, the guy has done nothing but fantastic work. (Y'all might best recognize his work as doing the character designs for Chrono Cross.) Junichi Higashi is nothing short of a master at his craft as an Art Director. Y'all already know about Yoko Kanno. There's nothing but prolific industry pros to work on the storyboards with Shouji Kawamori, who is also credited with the story and part of the scripting. And the key animators are a big list of strong talent that worked with Sunrise's Studio 3, which was responsible for Gundam 0083 and all of the City Hunter shows/films. And the show's director is not the most flashy of names, but I contend Kazuki Akane is still an incredibly talented individual. (Directer of the Code Geass spin-off films, the Birdy the Mighty TV shows, HeatGuy J, and Stars Align.)

Gender Dynamics: The world of Gaea (and Japan as well, if we're being honest) is one with very rigid, traditional gender roles. And while the show forces these roles onto its characters in ways you wish there could be a little more gender parity with regards to who gets to do what, I'm largely ok with the TV show because the characters by and large refuse to be constrained by them and that's a major resonant theme of Escaflowne. Every time a gender role is imposed onto a character by societal expectations in a way that goes against their nature, it leads to misfortune and misery. And when characters are not just allowed to defy those roles, but seize them of their own volition, is when we see characters come into their own and good things generally follow.

And the themes and outcomes are generally some of the more positive, and more importantly healthy outcomes for a romance anime. Romance in anime is some of the more fraught stuff, because there's honestly a lot of toxic or downright abusive behavior that's upheld as idealistic and romantic in these kinds of shows. Even the ones that are aimed at an almost exclusively female audience is full of its own icky business. And Escaflowne takes an approach to romance that's almost instructive in how healthy it is. All the bad stereotypes are here, but they're also there for the purpose of directly commenting upon and undermining. Almost none of the Escaflowne's pairings that are teased throughout the show come to fruition or persist the entire length. Millerna's husband breaks with her because he realizes that what he's doing is wrong, and that good relationships are built on mutual love. Millerna voluntarily gives up her infatuation with Allen because she realizes she deserves better for herself than someone who is emotionally and physically unavailable. Allen gives up Hitomi realizing that he's projecting his feelings for others onto her for his own convenience. Hitomi and Vaan are built up as the OTP who are perfect for each other since they treat each other as equal partners versus Allen's toxic masculinity leading him to want to cloister and dominate Hitomi. And yet Vaan and Hitomi both agree to mutually step back from one another because they realize that their relationship is dangerously codependent, they're both still young and growing and have their own lives, and that they need to take things slower. It's honestly remarkable that a show as thoughtful and respectful about its ideas of romance could come out of the mid-90s Japan.

Religiosity: There is a very strong Buddhist undercurrent to this show. Stronger than your typical Japanese cultural influences would assume. I'm not the best equipped to describe the intricacies of this. But everything Escaflowne has to say about perpetual cycles of violence, emotional attachments (even the ones rooted in pure love) leading to suffering, Hitomi not reading fate but directing it with the energy of her emotions, it's all super Buddhist.

Cats: Escaflowne is an enlightened show that recognizes that Cats are among nature's most fiercely loyal and loving creatures. Just sayin'.

The Movie: I think there would have been a time earlier in my life where I would have been extremely put off by the film's departures from the TV show. But now I mostly can compartmentalize those shifts and see them as interesting permutations on a shared theme. Escaflowne the Movie is basically what DYRL is to Macross. It's this companion work that I don't even think works as a standalone product because of how heavily it relies on you already knowing the characters and how things will work out. It literalizes a lot of the more esoteric themes of the TV show into more striking visuals like Escaflowne sucking Vaan's blood as a more to-the-point interpretation of how piloting Escaflowne would damage Vaan in the TV show. (Both of which are metaphors for how being a Guymelf pilot and murdering people is wounding the soul of this inherently gentle person.) Shifts in characters personalities feel striking but aren't out of left field. Hitomi and Vaan's struggles with depression and interpersonal empathy are subtext in the original show but brought to the foreground and put in center view during the film. Folken's hatred of Vaan is the biggest departure, but it's mostly there to take the abstract of him losing his way and hurting Vaan by giving it physical form in his personality. And everything is just visually arresting. It's still a completely baffling film because I just don't really know who this was made for. These changes are fascinating from an almost academic perspective, but fans are irrational beasts who dislike striking changes like this. Almost all shojo aspects of the original show was stripped out of this to make way for a brooding, depressing, violent film. It's almost masturbatory in the sense that the people making it clearly thought this was going to be really cool without thinking much about if people wanted to see Escaflowne done like this. What a really weird moment in history. Especially for what was essentially Studio Bones inaugural work and one of the main reasons the studio was formed to begin with.

Anyways, 10/10 perfect show, I kinda can't handle how good it was. Even its warts like the story going full-bore abstraction towards the end in very Shouji Kawamori ways is just mana to me. Love it. The film was a solid 8/10. A beautiful film and an interesting companion piece. Not remotely worthy of being a substitute for the original, but a heroic job of distilling a 10+ hr epic into an hour and a half.
 
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Peklo

Oh! Create!
(they/them, she/her)
I put Escaflowne on the list a long time ago because I respect the noses and robots with capes.
 

Tegan

dirtbag lesbian
(She/Her)
Been doing a rewatch/catchup of My Hero Academia and the early episodes sure are 1) good and 2) a weird combination of both indicative and completely non-indicative of what the show would become. The themes and characters have mostly stayed the same, but relationships have changed completely. Remember Iida? He used to be a main character! He was Deku's best friend! Uraraka too!
 

Tegan

dirtbag lesbian
(She/Her)
god I forgot how much Mineta sucks though. What an absolute garbage heap of a character.
 

ThornGhost

lofi posts to relax/study to
(he/him)
Been doing a rewatch/catchup of My Hero Academia and the early episodes sure are 1) good and 2) a weird combination of both indicative and completely non-indicative of what the show would become. The themes and characters have mostly stayed the same, but relationships have changed completely. Remember Iida? He used to be a main character! He was Deku's best friend! Uraraka too!

One of the main reasons I like the MHA movies is that I really like members of class 1-A that aren't Deku and those movies give them room to shine.

Also I'm like a decade late, but I just finished Steins;Gate and man that show is a roller coaster. I was watching on Hulu and specifically did not look to see how far into the series I was at any given moment. There were about three times I thought that show was ending but it just kept reinventing itself and moving on. Wild. I'm pretty sure I prefer, eh, let's call it the middle 2/3s of the series to the ending and beginning, but overall I'd recommend it to most anyone interested in a pretty good sci-fi story. It's very much a product of its time, however, with an almost gross fascination with muted color correction you see in other media of the late 2000s which does not present very well these days.

There's also some questionable plot lines revolving around a trans character, though I'm not sure that's how the anime considers them. Luka presents very feminine and expresses that they would prefer to be a woman, and even uses
time travel
for gender affirmation purposes, but I just don't think the anime does a good job of treating them with respect or even has the proper language for the character that a modern viewer would want. If you're sensitive to that, just be aware going in.

I've started on Steins;Gate 0 now which is pretty irritating because it seems like Hulu has the sub of the original and the dub of the sequel and there's definitely some whiplash. It's...not nearly as good as the original.
 

gogglebob

The Goggles Do Nothing
(he/him)
Steins;Gate is weird to me, because I downright enjoyed the show for much the same reasons you describe. And I just kind of acknowledged that Okabe (the main character, right?) was a generally unlikeable protagonist, but that was okay, because he's a science weirdo, he's not supposed to be some paragon of humanity. And then I found out the whole anime was based on a visual novel where you basically are Okabe, and the "real" reason every woman was falling for him is that he is just the visual novel/vague harem mandated main character that everyone always falls for, the end. And, like, really? He's supposed to be vaguely "everyman"? Is this... do people think his borderline criminal antics are, like, normal?

Anyway, I enjoyed the anime, but I am downright afraid of playing the game. Like, I do not want to see the narrative hoops involved in that one.
 

Peklo

Oh! Create!
(they/them, she/her)
This is not a personal accusation or indictment of anyone's person for having done so/doing so in the future, but: don't fucking interact with Steins;Gate in any fashion. It's one of the most bigoted, hateful media creations I've ever come across and no good can come of it. I don't know how the anime is and whether it differs to any meaningful degree (I doubt it), but it's the kind of work that in its original visual novel form gets regularly recommended as an unmissable, genre-defining work, and maybe that's true, if you detest an entire medium. It's unrepentant shit.
 

Alixsar

The Shogun of Harlem
(He/him)
Been doing a rewatch/catchup of My Hero Academia and the early episodes sure are 1) good and 2) a weird combination of both indicative and completely non-indicative of what the show would become. The themes and characters have mostly stayed the same, but relationships have changed completely. Remember Iida? He used to be a main character! He was Deku's best friend! Uraraka too!
IMO the show has kinda always been all over the place in terms of who's important and even just it's general structure. Remember, the entire show is Adult Deku narrating to us about how he became the #1 hero. When you think about it that way, a lot of scenes just don't make any sense at all.

That said, I love it still because the show has a lot of heart and everyone is likeable. Well, Mineta. I don't have the same problem with him that others do, though I understand why people would hate him. I just kinda ignore it.
 

ThornGhost

lofi posts to relax/study to
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This is not a personal accusation or indictment of anyone's person for having done so/doing so in the future, but: don't fucking interact with Steins;Gate in any fashion. It's one of the most bigoted, hateful media creations I've ever come across and no good can come of it. I don't know how the anime is and whether it differs to any meaningful degree (I doubt it), but it's the kind of work that in its original visual novel form gets regularly recommended as an unmissable, genre-defining work, and maybe that's true, if you detest an entire medium. It's unrepentant shit.

Sorry, if there's some well-known outcry about the show, I wasn't aware of it. I didn't mean to harm anyone. I was just looking for lists of recommended streamable anime and the show ranked highly and I hadn't seen it so I just watched it. In a lot of ways, it seems less skeezy than most anime. I'm open to thinking that I'm downplaying the severity of the trans issues, but I could see that story going in worse directions than it actually did. If anyone has any reading about it, I'd love to see it.
 

clarice

bebadosamba
I watched three or four minutes of Steins Gate and stopped. The science is so bad in this. As a physics teacher, i hate the 'over the top scientist' stereotype, too. Just sharing my personal experience.

The science is so bad in anime, usually. Because of this i'm curious to see Godzilla S.P. since Wisteria wrote that it has someone with a physics background writing it. Ah, i never did watch Space Dandy too, i think i'll give it a shot after finishing Patlabor.
 
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Zef

Find Your Reason
(He/Him)
Anyways, 10/10 perfect show, I kinda can't handle how good it was. Even its warts like the story going full-bore abstraction towards the end in very Shouji Kawamori ways is just mana to me. Love it. The film was a solid 8/10. A beautiful film and an interesting companion piece. Not remotely worthy of being a substitute for the original, but a heroic job of distilling a 10+ hr epic into an hour and a half.

Plus any show that has Isaac Newton living in a hyper-magitek empire and manipulating people's fates left and right to result in dramatic shock scenes straight out of a Latin American telenovela is automatically cool.

Is this available for streaming? My DVD boxset is warm and snug in my parents' house 3000 miles away.
 

R.R. Bigman

Coolest Guy
Been doing a rewatch/catchup of My Hero Academia and the early episodes sure are 1) good and 2) a weird combination of both indicative and completely non-indicative of what the show would become. The themes and characters have mostly stayed the same, but relationships have changed completely. Remember Iida? He used to be a main character! He was Deku's best friend! Uraraka too!
On the plus side, we get a lot more Dark Shadow and Red Riot than in the opening arcs.
 
The science is so bad in anime, usually. Because of this i'm curious to see Godzilla S.P. since Wisteria wrote that it has someone with a physics background writing it. Ah, i never did watch Space Dandy too, i think i'll give it a shot after finishing Patlabor.

EnJoe Toh (the writer) did an undergrad in physics, but his grad research is I think more on the intersection of physics/mathematics and language, and also he does/did computer programming but I think that was more of just a dayjob, although he does make use of it in his work. I haven't seen Godzilla S.P. yet, but from what I've read of his novels he's more into abstract mathematical concepts and the thematics of language/logic (both human and programming) than physics in a traditional sense.
 
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Sorry, if there's some well-known outcry about the show, I wasn't aware of it.
There actually isn't, unfortunately. I'd say that, charitably, most anime fans are on the young side, aren't accustomed to questioning their media or doing critical reading of what they consume (and generally lack the training to do so), and generally just accept things at face value. Steins;Gate was hot shit for the first several years after the first anime came out, and got near universal praise from weebs. It doesn't help either that the active discourse surrounding weeby things in general is extremely dominated by the cis-male perspective, and all other voices are either drowned out, intimated into silence, or actively suppressed. (Things seem a little better in this respect lately from what I can gather, esp on places like twitter, but I don't actively engage with hellbirdsite and try to detach myself from anime fandom as much as possible these days.)

I hate the show with the burning passion of a thousand suns. As Peklo said, it is a downright hateful show at times. The women in the show are vague caricatures of people with zero agency and intelligence. They are not people, they are pokemon with tits for the MC to collect. They trip over themselves for the privilege of being around one of the most unlikable and misogynistic main characters I can remember, who does nothing but leer at and insult these women. And the show pretty much delights in torturing all of the women here ad nauseum for cheap, laughable excuses for pathos all so the main character can feel really really really sad. I watched it as it was broadcasting, and it was probably the first anime that I ever hate-watched.

Another similarly problematic and popular show that shares a similar formula of the above is Re:Zero. Which at times would make Steins;Gate blush with how aggressively misogynistic it is. At least in that show, the main character is also sadistically tortured just as much as the women are.

Plus any show that has Isaac Newton living in a hyper-magitek empire and manipulating people's fates left and right to result in dramatic shock scenes straight out of a Latin American telenovela is automatically cool.

Is this available for streaming? My DVD boxset is warm and snug in my parents' house 3000 miles away.
It's only streaming on Funimation, and a la carte on Amazon. At the price per episode on Amazon, you might as well just buy the BDs. (I just picked them up for ~$50usd.) Funimation you can watch the show remastered and for free, but only the dubbed version. If you want to watch it subbed, you have to either pay for a Funi subscription, or have a digital download key like the one I was giving away. The new dub seems pretty competent from what I've seen, and if you're not adverse to or prefer dubs it's certainly a choice.


But IMO the voice acting in Japanese is really really good stuff done by some of the best in the industry, and that would be the way I'd recommend. A Funimation premium subscription is $6/mo. (They've got a lot of good classics on there too, other than just this. They've got all of Ranma remastered on it, for example.)
The science is so bad in anime, usually. Because of this i'm curious to see Godzilla S.P. since Wisteria wrote that it has someone with a physics background writing it. Ah, i never did watch Space Dandy too, i think i'll give it a shot after finishing Patlabor.
Oh, let me be clear for a moment. There's still tons of impossible scifi stuff in Godzilla S.P. But it's described with a scientific literacy that makes things sound more plausible than your typical TV writer.
 

clarice

bebadosamba
Oh, let me be clear for a moment. There's still tons of impossible scifi stuff in Godzilla S.P. But it's described with a scientific literacy that makes things sound more plausible than your typical TV writer.

My problem is when writers try to make their idea sound plausible/be inspired by actual science but they clearly don't understand anything about it. Another example is Crest of the Stars* and Evangelion (the usage of 'Dirac sea' comes to mind).

A tangent thought: all of this is kinda weird to me. Sometimes the physics of a fictional world is not similar to the physics of our world at all, but it feels like actual physics. It has that flavor. Like with Ursula Le Guin's The Dispossessed.

* Ah, and i like Crest of the Stars! My heart ocasionally ignores bad science fiction and bad politics (it's hard not to think that the author of Crest of the Stars is totally okay with colonialism).

EnJoe Toh (the writer) did an undergrad in physics, but his grad research is I think more on the intersection of physics/mathematics and language, and also he does/did computer programming but I think that was more of just a dayjob, although he does make use of it in his work. I haven't seen Godzilla S.P. yet, but from what I've read of his novels he's more into abstract mathematical concepts and the thematics of language/logic (both human and programming) than physics in a traditional sense.

Ah, i see. That sounds interesting. Thanks for the info!
 

Zef

Find Your Reason
(He/Him)
Another similarly problematic and popular show that shares a similar formula of the above is Re:Zero. Which at times would make Steins;Gate blush with how aggressively misogynistic it is. At least in that show, the main character is also sadistically tortured just as much as the women are.

Anime Twitter and YT et al keep recommending this one to me and I'm now glad I haven't gone near it. And I{m pretty sure Steins is contemporary to the *Monogatari shows, too.

Are all the ";" shows related? I thought I had heard good things/saw an interesting trailer about Robotics;Notes?
 

FelixSH

(He/Him)
I'm just glad to know that I don't need to watch Steins Gate. Thanks for the warnings.
Also, I guess I need to rewatch Escaflowne. Haven't even thought of that show for, uh, 15 years, or so, when it was shown on, uh, MTV(?).
 

Kirin

Summon for hire
(he/him)
Are all the ";" shows related? I thought I had heard good things/saw an interesting trailer about Robotics;Notes?

Apparently they're all loosely connected, but I watched Robotics;Notes long ago without having seen any of Steins and it was definitely stand-alone enough (and didn't seem nearly as objectionable, but again, it was quite a while ago so I can't promise there wasn't any icky stuff that just didn't stick with me).
 
Are all the ";" shows related? I thought I had heard good things/saw an interesting trailer about Robotics;Notes?
They're "related" in only the loosest of terms. 5pb (the video game company responsible for the original VNs) had an initiative a while back for making sci-fi visual novels that loosely shared the same setting and some themes, but they're made by completely different people and share pretty much nothing in common. The shows themselves are also made by completely different people and share nothing in common as well.

I watched the first few episodes of Robotics;Notes back when it was airing and then dropped it out of pure boredom. So I can't really say much about it personally, especially when I've basically forgotten almost everything about it. But I've sat through so much boring/awful anime that I feel like if it was boring enough for me to drop, it must have been pretty bad. But to also be fair to it, I was heavily predisposed against the show from the onset, knowing it shared a basic lineage with Steins;Gate. Which might be a top5 most hated anime of mine.

Anime Twitter and YT et al keep recommending this one to me and I'm now glad I haven't gone near it.
I think there's probably more for the average TTer to get something out of Re:Zero vs Steins;Gate, because at the very least there's a lot of dramatic twists and turns that are generally amusing. And it's a lot more enjoyable show to hate-watch because it's always great to watch the main character get brutally murdered ad nauseum. But it's loaded with so much problematic baggage that most people here would have an aneurism over how cringeworthy it often is.
 

Peklo

Oh! Create!
(they/them, she/her)
All the semicolon "science adventure" bullshit shares, in VN source material form, a creative lead and head writer in Chiyomaru Shikura, and as his regular scenario writing partner Naotaka Hayashi, who was also the lead writer on the similarly time loop-concerned and misogynistic Bravely Default. If you've bounced off previously, or if one work of theirs sounds unappealing to you based on information shared, I don't see a reason to give the benefit of the doubt to any others. They have a formula they stick to, which earns them a following, leading to those constant recommendations from those invested in their work.
 

conchobhar

What's Shenmue?
(he/him/his)
Just finished Patlabor (TV series). The last episode is such a good finish to the series, being about Noa's feeling about change and the passage of time. The feelings of Noa for an inanimate object mirrors the feelings of a lot of viewers like myself for Patlabor, too, i think. Anyway, love it - i love these characters.

Early in the year i watched the first OVA series. Now onwards to New Files... And then the three movies...
Glad you enjoyed it! Patlabor on Television seems like a somewhat overlooked part of the franchise— I guess because it isn't a standout in the same way as the OVA or movies— but I loved it dearly. The length of it really lets it explore the setting and world, and the mundanity of it all, to a much greater degree than the OVA allowed— and it's just wonderful to see just how many situations the patlabors find themselves in. The highlight, to me, is the episode where they deal with the insurance inspector, because of course that's something the operator of a giant robot would have to deal with.
 
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