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Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
Adrenaline sees Jeff Goldblum at a Starbucks, makes the “I’m watching you” gesture at him.

Jeff understands immediately.
 

Becksworth

Aging Hipster Dragon Dad
Didn’t DC do a 1000th issue anthology book for Detective Comics last year? Not that I’m complaining they’re doing another one since I liked the previous one. And yes, I’m aware this one is celebrating 1000 issues since Batman’s first appearance.
 

Rascally Badger

El Capitan de la outro espacio
(He/Him)
DC Universe is dead. Long live DC Universe Infinite. (also, Harley Quinn is renewed and moving to HBO Max)
 

Mogri

Round and round I go
(he)
Staff member
[SCENE: WAYNE MANOR INT.]

BRUCE: Criminals are a superstitious and cowardly lot. I must find a way to strike fear into their hearts.

[A TYRANNOSAUR CRASHES THROUGH THE WINDOW]

BRUCE: That's it!
 

Fredde

Citizen of Gotham
I've been reading old Golden Age comics with Captain Marvel (AKA Shazam), and while I was certainly aware that they'd contain a whole lot of WWII propaganda and racist stereotypes, I was still shocked by the ending one one particular comic, in which Captain Marvel defeats his Japanese nemesis "Nippo".

Yep, that's Captain Marvel and Billy Batson cheerfully sending their enemies to the "concentration camps", and hoping that soon all Japanese people will be there. I can see why DC might be reluctant to republish some of these comics.
 
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Fredde

Citizen of Gotham
I guess that while I was aware of the internment of Japanese Americans, I wasn't aware of how it was apparently celebrated as a good thing at the time.
 

Johnny Unusual

(He/Him)
I mean, I'd love to read The Monster Society of Evil some day but apparently there's just some shit that's too racist and if that's the case I don't blame them for leaving that one on the shelf.

On the other hand, I am bummed that they cancelled Rachel Pollack's Doom Patrol run reprints. That was a series written by what I assume must have been DC's first trans author to work on a relatively mainstream book (I mean, its a big two superhero book, even if it was a Vertigo book) and for that reason alone I'm very interested in reading it.
 
I guess that while I was aware of the internment of Japanese Americans, I wasn't aware of how it was apparently celebrated as a good thing at the time.
Oh buddy, there's just so much more to all of it. We were demonized so much, this kind of thing became common place and acceptable:



This is a page of TIME magazine, btw
 

Fredde

Citizen of Gotham
Yeah, I did see the skull picture recently, so I guess I shouldn't be all that surprised.

I mean, I'd love to read The Monster Society of Evil some day but apparently there's just some shit that's too racist and if that's the case I don't blame them for leaving that one on the shelf.

If you want to read it, you might be interested in the fact that all of the Shazam comics prior to DC buying Fawcet are apparently considered public domain, so they can be downloaded legally for free from various places on the internet. I managed to find a complete digital collection of the Monster Society of Evil storyline somewhere, though I unfortunately don't remeber exactly where. And yeah, there's plenty of racism in it (including that odd kind where Japanese people are portrayed as bucktoothed monsters, but Chinese look like regular people), but it also has a whole lot of well drawn, genuinely entertaining and funny superhero adventuring. Which makes it really frustrating, since I'd like to be able to recommend it without the huge disclaimer.

 

Jeanie

(Fem or Gender Neutral)
Goodness, the Batman: Three Jokers finale is such an asspull. There's no real spoilers ahead.

For those who don't know, years ago and about three DC editorial changes ago, Batman got to sit in the Mobius Chair, the repository of all knowledge in the DCU. First he asked it a question he already knew the answer to, who killed his parents, to test it because Batman is paranoid and doesn't trust anything. Then he asked it the Big Question. What is the Joker's real name? The Chair then tells him there's three Jokers. This shocks Batman because he didn't know there was three.

Now TJ reveals at the end that he's always known the Joker's real name. So why did he ask the chair? He already knew the answer, he already validated the accuracy of the chair.

So why?!
 

Positronic Brain

Out Of Warranty
(He/him)
Why, though? Not why this exists - $$$ and Geoff Johns hasn't met a piece of DC continuity he wouldn't like to unravel and mess up to leave his permanent mark on it - but why are there 3 jokers? Is there a in-universe explanation?
 

Becksworth

Aging Hipster Dragon Dad
I guess it’s damning praise that I’m still more interested in reading Three Jokers in the future over City of Bane, Joker War, or Death Metal because it sounds like a self contained, smaller scale story from what I’ve heard. I’m not sure why we need a big mega epic Batman arc every six months...
 
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