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Violentvixen

(She/Her)
Hmm since we're seeing all this machine/human hybrid stuff today I'm guessing whatever happened to this person is what Zimmy is afraid will happen to her and/or what Kat will do. I'm assuming Kat is the girl who affects the predictions, but could be Annie or Zimmy or someone else entirely I suppose.

Also (since even I forget sometimes) Omega is the last letter of the Greek alphabet, Zeta is early in the alphabet. Doesn't necessarily mean they were named to imply order but makes me less confident what their connection is.
 
I'm assuming Kat is the girl who affects the predictions, but
It's gotta be Annie, right?

The whole Omega nonsense in the court to date has been described as the Court wanting to predict the future with a machine, but the existence of the Ether stops that plan from ever becoming viable, since the Ether is completely unpredictable and interferes with a deterministic reading of the universe. That's why the court is trying to relocate to begin with - they want to leave a planet where the Ether gets in the way of their machinations/plans for crafting a perfect society via reading the future.

Kat is the science busybody who does/sees everything through a scientific perspective. What she does isn't inherently going to throw their prediction models off, because it all still fundamentally obeys the laws of physics. Annie on the other hand, is not just an Ether-sensitive person, and not just part fire spirit or whatever. She also is a nexus for all these Ether-related events that keep happening. All of the Coyote/Loup nonsense is not her "fault" per say, but she certainly is the inspiration for all the ether-business in the forest to keep interacting with the Court.
 
Thing is, Kat doesn't become who she is or does the things she does without Annie there to begin with, constantly inspiring/spurring her on. If there's no Annie, then Kat is probably just a normal person, probably underachieving/not living up to her potential.
 

Paul le Fou

24/7 lofi hip hop man to study/relax to
(He)
I mean, she can walk on her own, and it sounds like she feels that knowing the future felt like being trapped so not knowing it is freeing. I get it.
 
Omega is describing a deterministic, omnipotent view of the universe. But not only is she doing a poor job of doing so, but the idea that a single human brain could fathom and understand what she's laying down is just straight up the hottest nonsense this comic has ever done, which is saying a lot. To say nothing of the fact that the problems she's describing with it is just intrinsic to the fact that our world is not a closed system and thus any attempt at doing what she's doing is also - laughable levels of impossible, since outside variables will always turn this kind of prediction attempt into one where the scope will always rapidly expand to infinity.
 

Sarcasmorator

Same as I ever was
(He/him)
this is a comic where gods are real and there's a (iirc) thumbprint on the moon; i'm not sure i understand your complaint

the entire problem the court is trying to solve IS that the world is not a closed system that's perfectly predictable, so they're making one. like, that's the whole thing going on.
 
Omega is describing a deterministic, omnipotent view of the universe. But not only is she doing a poor job of doing so, but the idea that a single human brain could fathom and understand what she's laying down is just straight up the hottest nonsense this comic has ever done, which is saying a lot. To say nothing of the fact that the problems she's describing with it is just intrinsic to the fact that our world is not a closed system and thus any attempt at doing what she's doing is also - laughable levels of impossible, since outside variables will always turn this kind of prediction attempt into one where the scope will always rapidly expand to infinity.
she's magic
 

gogglebob

The Goggles Do Nothing
(he/him)
she's magic

They introduce her nigh-omnipotence with her unrefined ability to control birds and rats. This isn't like a sci-fi explanation where an AI accidentally gained super powers thanks to misplaced code, she is super-duper magic from toe to tip. And, given the Court's interest, her abilities are also staggeringly unique, even in a world with gods running around.

On a related note, I am impressed with the sheer level of exuberance displayed with Omega enjoying her current freedom. After the flashback, this could have been a boring info-dump of an explanation, but Omega (almost literally) dancing around 100% justifies the visual medium here.
 

Violentvixen

(She/Her)
It makes me curious what Zimmy's power is since I'm still assuming there's some relation due to a lot of other similarities. Instead of seeing all the atoms can she rearrange them? It's been strongly implied Zimmy's power surpasses/matches Coyote's but she can't control it which is interesting.
 

Paul le Fou

24/7 lofi hip hop man to study/relax to
(He)
Also, do we know what specific moment Omega is referring to when she talks about Annie's preordained death that didn't happen? When was Annie supposed to "die"?
 

Mogri

Round and round I go
(he)
Staff member
Moderator
Presumably in the ravine, when she was rescued by the time-traveling bird.
 

Paul le Fou

24/7 lofi hip hop man to study/relax to
(He)
Makes sense!

Interesting that that happened through Kat's intervention, though. It makes me wonder if there's still a swerve that it could be Kat instead of Annie who's throwing a wrench in the works after all.
 

Sarcasmorator

Same as I ever was
(He/him)
I think it's both. The two of them have been very consistently paired together in treatises and whatnot; their phenomena are interconnected. Antimony is a wrench because Kat made her a wrench because she is also a wrench.
 
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