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The Nintendo Thread of Existential Doom

Bongo

Bongo

excused from moderation duty
(he/him)
Staff member
Mother fuckin Live A Live. Very excited to get a well-supported way to experience that finally. I like HD2D. I hope they milk that fad dry. I want them to make so many games like that until I'm sick of even looking at bloom-shaded sprites and heavy depth-of-field on environments with nearest-neighbor texture filtering. Just keep giving it to me.

Makes perfect sense for Three Hopes to be a Three Houses spinoff, since most of the development staff of Three Houses was from Koei Tecmo anyway. And it's sure to have more weapon variety than the last Fire Emblem Warriors, and a better cast. I'm down. I didn't get far in Dynasty Warriors 8 XL and I think it's because I have no familiarity with Romance of the Three Kingdoms. I need to have some character knowledge I can anchor myself to while weathering a torrent of new weapons. Maybe I should give it another try in a different campaign.

It seems unlikely that they'll make Musou spinoffs of any additional Nintendo franchises, but, just imagine: Dynasty Warios.

Anyway, Mouthful Mode in Kirby is fucked up and awesome, and most of my complaints about Triangle Strategy from the last demo (mainly UI stuff) are fixed, and having savestates and rewinding in order to attempt RNG manipulation might make Earthbound Beginnings tolerable, and there's a real risk I'm going to end up getting Chrono Cross just to play Radical Dreamers, and one of you is gonna have to tell me something about Front Mission one of these days, and the voice acting and animation in Advance Wars is perfect, and this DLC might be the thing to get me back into Mario Kart.
 
RT-55J

RT-55J

space hero for hire
(He/Him + RT/artee)
I made a meme summarizing my thoughts regarding the Mario Kart announcement.

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This all depends on how bad FF Kart's F2P nonsense is tbqh

Bongo said:
It seems unlikely that they'll make Musou spinoffs of any additional Nintendo franchises, but, just imagine: Dynasty Warios.
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The idea of an Other M remake is a pernicious brainworm that regularly cycles its way through the Metroid fanbase, though personally I think if it were remade as Metroid: Other Musou then it would be sufficiently stupid enough to be interesting (they should not do this).
 
Phantoon

Phantoon

I cuss you bad
Kazin said:
I have never played a Front Mission or Live A Live and have barely touched Chrono Cross so this rules
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Yeah, there's loads in that Direct for me. Xenoblade 3 is huge, and they've moved away from the excesses of 2. I can't wait to read Radical Dreamers, either. 48 new courses for Mario Kart 8 is amazing, more than anyone could have expected from DLC.

Musous can be great, they're the video game equivalent of a soap opera. Turn your brain off and start pulverising mooks in spectacular ways.
 
WisteriaHysteria

WisteriaHysteria

Issun said:
Since it seems Nintendo is looking to slowly muso all their premier franchises i'ma wait for Animal Crossing Warriors. Can't wait to fuck Tom Nook's shit up.
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Bongo said:
It seems unlikely that they'll make Musou spinoffs of any additional Nintendo franchises, but, just imagine: Dynasty Warios.
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I legit would play a Mario Bros Musou game. Imagine just massacring an entire hillside full of Goombas. And then Donkey Kong shows up and slaps ass all the way thru a pack of beavers standing around eating their own boogers.

I just had the most horrendous of thoughts. What if the next Smash Bros game, was a Musou style third person slugfest with troops being like goombas or moblins that acted in a way like they do in mobas. Oh no what have I done.


Bongo said:
Anyway, Mouthful Mode in Kirby is fucked up and awesome
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It's crazy fucked up. The internet is already having a field day with Kirby not-quite-eating things. It's only a matter of time till it gets to Vore territory.

Bongo said:
one of you is gonna have to tell me something about Front Mission one of these days
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Imagine you're playing FF Tactics. But instead of wizards and shit, you're fighting with robots in a near-future, modern Earth society. Instead of predetermined combat classes, the equipment your mechs have attached determine their strategy strengths and weaknesses and thus dictated their playstyle. You can also aim for specific body parts of mechs if you want to, so it incentivizes strategization by disabling enemy mechs instead of outright destroying them.

The plot for the first game is rather simple. A bunch of sudden volcanic activity created a new island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean (really more the size of a subcontinent, really). The two largest regional world powers (The USA and a united East Asian/Australian economic zone) both claim the new land and the competing interests sparks a war.
 
MetManMas

MetManMas

Me and My Bestie
(He, him)
Peklo said:
Live A Live is more of a neutral and detached appreciation for me--not fond of HD-2D as a vehicle for these restorations, and the source material is this sweeping anthology entirely about men. Snooze.
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I love the experimental thing the game does with the different time periods and manga writers and all and that's the selling point for me, but it is definitely a very aggressively shonen-focused anthology and that's very unfortunate.

Out of the cast across all time periods, there are exactly two playable women in the entire game. And only one has the (optional) possibility of showing up in the final chapter. And if you don't prioritize Li's training she frickin' dies. I mean, the two boys in the Kung-Fu chapter can die too but it's still not a good look how the one woman who can come to the endgame is disposable.
 
Positronic Brain

Positronic Brain

Out Of Warranty
(He/him)
So Chrono Cross is also comingto PC, Xbox and Playstation. Presumably Live A Live too.

This only complicates things, What plaform to choose?

Among all these announcements it slipped my mind that there was no mention of the FF remasters for Switch ;_;
 
That Old Chestnut

That Old Chestnut

A E S T H E T I C
(he/him)
Bongo said:
this DLC might be the thing to get me back into Mario Kart.
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And throwing this in as a freebie with the NSO expansion means I'll probably end up getting the NSO expansion now.

What wouldn't have been worth the extra $30 on its own will now just be a cool bonus for some DLC I was gonna pay $25 for anyway.*

Finally talked me into it, the bastards.




*I'm probably gonna get eaten alive on proration charges, aren't I?
 
gogglebob

gogglebob

The Goggles Do Nothing
(he/him)
q 3 said:
I have nothing against musou games but also zero interest in ever playing them, and this seeming trend of musou sequels to turn-based games is a little worrying to me personally (Fate, Persona, now Fire Emblem). Like sure, make a musou spinoff or crossover or nonsense fanservice chaos, whatever, just don't suddenly do a radical genre change for a direct continuation please
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Not that this in any way makes it better, but I feel like this has been "videogames!" for a while, just now companies have learned you probably will hop genres if they claim everything is "canon". Back in the day, Final Fantasy 7's cast jumped over to a fighting game, kart racing for Castlevania has been a thing, and there was a time where fighting game refugees all had to hang out in TRPGs. It seems like whatever is popular and can easily "import" familiar characters gets a host of crossovers, and right now Warriors is on deck (and evidently really easy to work out a DLC schedule for).

(And sometimes we wind up with Cardfighters Clash from this kind of nonsense, so I can't be mad.)

Though I do want to say that there is the tiniest bit of variety in these Musous. The Persona game almost feels like a platformer at times, for instance, so there is the possibility that this won't just be a straight Fire Emblem Warriors 2.
 
Becksworth

Becksworth

Aging Hipster Dragon Dad
The vibe I got from the trailer wasn't a direct sequel to Three Houses, but a wish fulfillment "Unity path" where everyones' stans don't want to murder each other in the end, so I suspect it will be pretty fan fiction-y.
 
JBear

JBear

Internet's foremost Bertolli cosplayer
(He/Him)
Listen, I just want to help Edelgard eat the rich again. Loved hearing her voice in the trailer.

(I don't care for musou at all, but if I hear the story is worth my time then I will absolutely hop in with both feet. Hopefully I'll land on Dmitri.)
 
WildcatJF

WildcatJF

Let's Pock (Art @szk_tencho)
(he / his / him)
I'm here for this Direct, so much hype.

Three Hopes being an entirely new path is wild!!!
 
Sprite

Sprite

(He/Him/His)
Fire Emblem Warriors is my favorite musuo mechanically, as the weapon triangle adds a nice smidgen of strategy and you can actually trust your AI teammates to get tasks done. The world and enemies are dull as sin, though.

Three Hopes looks a lot more vibrant, though I'm worried they'll ditch the weapon triangle like the main game and it'll be just like every other musuo (which is still fun). I'm also worried that the focus on Three Houses means we won't get characters from any other game or the off-the-wall "history" mode with bizarre scenarios.
Octopus Prime said:
I find it difficult to believe that Kirby can’t eat a car
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He can, he just chooses not to.
 
SpoonyBard

SpoonyBard

Threat Rhyme
(He/Him)
The fact that they put Fzero tracks and a kart in Mario Kart 8 but not Captain Falcon as a racer remains MK8's biggest blemish.
 
MetManMas

MetManMas

Me and My Bestie
(He, him)
SpoonyBard said:
The fact that they put Fzero tracks and a kart in Mario Kart 8 but not Captain Falcon as a racer remains MK8's biggest blemish.
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He had a Mii outfit too, but, you know, Mii Outfit.

Just let us pay a few bucks to unlock those dang costumes without toys or spoofs already.
 
SpoonyBard

SpoonyBard

Threat Rhyme
(He/Him)
Also I don't know if it's been mentioned but SNESflix also added a new SP title, proving Nintendo still hasn't given up on that as a concept rather than just implementing custom save files: Super Metroid has one that starts you at the endgame with all the things.

Kinda misses the entire dang point of Super Metroid, honestly, but what do I know?
 
gogglebob

gogglebob

The Goggles Do Nothing
(he/him)
SpoonyBard said:
Also I don't know if it's been mentioned but SNESflix also added a new SP title, proving Nintendo still hasn't given up on that as a concept rather than just implementing custom save files: Super Metroid has one that starts you at the endgame with all the things.

Kinda misses the entire dang point of Super Metroid, honestly, but what do I know?
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*cocks an eyebrow* Endgame at Samus's ship, or endgame at the save point you can never return from?

If it's the former, then I could totally see using that when I was younger. It feels good to "move" as Samus Aran. I wouldn't mind a "freestyle" mode where you can just go wherever and do whatever, even if the rewards for finding unique places are just empty rooms. When I was a kid, I took forever to figure out the power bomb tube, but I still logged hours in the game just running around Zebes "pointlessly".
 
gogglebob

gogglebob

The Goggles Do Nothing
(he/him)
Yeah, I straight up used to rent videogames in my youth and play "backwards" through completed (or thereabouts) save files created by others. I remember... I want to say one of the Wonder Boy titles... where I would find empty boss rooms and be like "oh man, that was probably cool." Not like I had time to complete the whole game during an overnight rental...
 
YangusKhan

YangusKhan

does the Underpants Dance
(He/Him/His)
Peklo said:
Xenoblade Chronicles 3 is notable to me mainly in that it's the first time in the series's history that the clothing design actually seems pretty decent.
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I also want to echo this. For the first time since the original game, I am actually maybe interested in playing a new game in the series. And a lot of that came from the downright sensible character designs I saw in that trailer.
 
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