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Sarcasmorator

Same as I ever was
(He/him)
gotta be honest, Thunderbolts being a B-sider collection is kind of appealing. it won't be as fun as Suicide Squad/Peacemaker I'm sure but kinda has that vibe to me.
 

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
I remember some of the people in that trailer, but who's the Captain America-esque guy? Is he from one of the TV shows I've skipped out on?
 

Octopus Prime

Mystery Contraption
(He/Him)
I remember some of the people in that trailer, but who's the Captain America-esque guy? Is he from one of the TV shows I've skipped out on?
Assuming you mean either Red Guardian or US Agent, they were prominent in Black Widow and Falcon & Winter Soldier, respectively
 

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
Assuming you mean either Red Guardian or US Agent, they were prominent in Black Widow and Falcon & Winter Soldier, respectively
I remember Red Guardian, but not US Agent. And I watched Falcon & Winter Soldier but barely remember it, I found it pretty dull. So that explains that! Thanks Octo!
 

Vaeran

(GRUNTING)
(he/him)
Staff member
Moderator
So the asterisk is officially part of the title for this show?

...

That is certainly a choice...

Yes. They made a big deal about adding the asterisk, and have been very coy about what it's supposed to indicate.

My prediction:

At the end of the movie, a familiar voice will congratulate the surviving Thunderbolts on working together as a team and declare that he sees great things in their future. It's Willem Dafoe, as this universe's Norman Osborn. The final title card will then read:

THUNDERBOLTS*

*A wholly-owned subsidiary of Oscorp Industries
 

Sarcasmorator

Same as I ever was
(He/him)
I remember Red Guardian, but not US Agent. And I watched Falcon & Winter Soldier but barely remember it, I found it pretty dull. So that explains that! Thanks Octo!
He's the guy who was poorly standing in for Rogers as the "new" Captain America and beat a man to death with the shield in a PTSD/drug-induced haze.
 

Olli

(he/him)
I mentioned elsewhere that I would probably be more excited for Thunderbolts* if the team had a more varied power set. We've got three Captains America, two Black Widows, and Ghost. I guess that's a good recipe for a covert black ops team or whatever, but they'd better get real creative with the punching and kicking or it'll get boring fast. I would also like them to come up with something interesting for Bucky to do, specifically, as he seems kind of disconnected and directionless without Steve in the picture.
On the other hand, I'm always excited to see more of David Harbour as Red Guardian. Just a fantastic character.
 

Adrenaline

Post Reader
(He/Him)
I mentioned elsewhere that I would probably be more excited for Thunderbolts* if the team had a more varied power set. We've got three Captains America, two Black Widows, and Ghost. I guess that's a good recipe for a covert black ops team or whatever, but they'd better get real creative with the punching and kicking or it'll get boring fast.
Hint: Keep an eye on Bob
 

gogglebob

The Goggles Do Nothing
(he/him)
What? Why should you... Oh. In the movie. Never mind.

In other news, I took in the first episode of Agatha All Along last night

It is so strange to me as a Disney+ "outsider" that when WandaVision premiered and was then a weekly event, it was practically all anyone was talking about. I swear I absorbed that show through cultural osmosis via 10,000 posts on the subject. I know it is complicated, but this is its ostensible "Season 2", and, three years later, it is hard to say if anyone gives a damn. Again, approaching this entirely as someone who is outside that ecosystem and occasionally steals their friend's D+ subscription to catch up randomly, but it is such a weird shift to experience as someone outside looking in.
 

Büge

Arm Candy
(she/her)
It is so strange to me as a Disney+ "outsider" that when WandaVision premiered and was then a weekly event, it was practically all anyone was talking about. I swear I absorbed that show through cultural osmosis via 10,000 posts on the subject. I know it is complicated, but this is its ostensible "Season 2", and, three years later, it is hard to say if anyone gives a damn. Again, approaching this entirely as someone who is outside that ecosystem and occasionally steals their friend's D+ subscription to catch up randomly, but it is such a weird shift to experience as someone outside looking in.
Marvel's mortgaged a lot of goodwill in the intervening years.
 

Regulus

Sir Knightbot
WandaVision was also the first of the MCU D+ shows to air and it came out during a portion of the pandemic when there were still significant amounts of people staying relatively isolated.
 

Beowulf

Son of The Answer Man
(He/Him)
WandaVision was also the first of the MCU D+ shows to air and it came out during a portion of the pandemic when there were still significant amounts of people staying relatively isolated.
I think the fact the the sitcom style conceit meant it had a gimmick that made each week / episode sufficiently new and interesting played a role. Virtually every other series has been a four-hour Standard Marvel Movie told in six episodes. WandaVision had a "what are they going to do next?" effect to keep pulling people back in, even ones who were starting to get tired of superhero stories.
 

Vaeran

(GRUNTING)
(he/him)
Staff member
Moderator
Today's What If...? finale had me sighing and checking my phone. The worst part of any What If season is always when it tries to get huge and epic at the end, and this was the most self-indulgent of all of those by a longshot. Just 15 solid minutes of eight completely invulnerable people pounding on each other. Incredibly boring.

All I wanted was clever little twists on the familiar! We could have had What If... Moon Knight Was a Talking Monte Cristo Sandwich? instead of this mess. Yuck.
 

BEAT

LOUDSKULL
(DUDE/BRO)
I Haven't watched them yet but Vaeran's disappointment is a far more painful blow than any other I could imagine
 

Octopus Prime

Mystery Contraption
(He/Him)
I’ve only seen the first two episodes so far and they were both laser targeted at me.

Weirdly I liked the Agatha Harkness and Kingo in Old Timey Hollywood episode *way* more than the Pacific Rim episode
 

BEAT

LOUDSKULL
(DUDE/BRO)
I feel like singing and dancing is far more impressive when it's a bunch of humans who spent months practicing to get every step perfect instead of a bunch of models stringing together fortnight emotes.

I know that's a very dim view on the amount of work the animators put in.

but like.

You know?
 

BEAT

LOUDSKULL
(DUDE/BRO)
THE NEW ADVENTURES OF THE RED GUARDIAN AND WINTER SOLDIER BEST FRIENDS POWER HOUR was the first one this season I... really liked! Bucky and "Bob Toledo" were a fantastic straight man/wildcard comedic duo and the animation served the action by being over the top and goofy, something that other "fights" in this series have real trouble with. I think it might be my single favorite episode in this whole What If mess, as none of the others had me smiling like this.
 

BEAT

LOUDSKULL
(DUDE/BRO)
Howard the Duck and Darcy in Bonny and Clyde in Raising Arizona was... better than I expected it to be, which means it was okay.
 

BEAT

LOUDSKULL
(DUDE/BRO)
what if that gal who supposedly has a TV show but I'll believe it when I see it turned into vision and also the world was exploded but that's somehow the most uninteresting part of an episode that was already very uninteresting did less than nothing for me.
 
I read the feedback here and decided to skip to the last two episodes to see what the hubbub was about, thinking "It can't be THAT bad..."

Yep... That was a boring fight sequence, alright. I might check out a couple of the episodes y'all mentioned like the Red Guardian one, but I'm good on this show for now.
 

Adrenaline

Post Reader
(He/Him)
The thing about the Red Guardian episode... it asks the question, what if he stopped Bucky from killing Tony's parents? But it doesn't look at how this would affect the stories we already know about. Completely uninterested in that. It's just a silly romp throwing together a random handful of characters.
 

BEAT

LOUDSKULL
(DUDE/BRO)
That's... Fine?

I don't really care about how the avengers could assemble if Howard stark lived and Beardo the dork ass loser died. They probably figured it out. Who cares.

The goofball antics of two losers who are super bad at spying but super hard to kill is much more engaging to me than the minor differences to an alternate timeline that a bunch of B+ movies tricked me into following.
 
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