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SpoonyBard

Threat Rhyme
(He/Him)
I enjoyed the season for the most part, but there were definitely places where it felt like lingering elements from its original version were getting in the way. Like the bank episode, and don't get me wrong I enjoyed that bottle episode for what it was but tonally it stuck out like a sore thumb, and you can kind of see the seams where reshoots were added. (I'll put money on the scene where Matt caught up with and beat the crap out of one of the robbers was added later) I wouldn't be surprised if some higher ups insisted it stay in due to Greater MCU Connections present (Ms. Marvel's Dad meeting Murdock, that unbelievably suspicious Totally Not An Infinity Stone gem) but the episode really felt out of place especially sandwiched between episodes 4 and 6.

But I'll be honest, the final two episodes probably hit a little too close to reality to really enjoy it. The first season was wrapped before the election last year so it's not like they could have changed anything, but a mob boss seizing the reigns of power and ultimately unleashing a brutal crackdown hits a bit different than it otherwise might have, y'know?

Also regarding the very end, so many online fans are big disappointed that in the big final scene they never had the other Netflix Defenders show up when Matt mentioned needing an army, and like I never really expected that? Not that I wouldn't love to see it, and it would make sense for Luke and Jessica at least to be involved with this situation, but still, I think some people had their expectation set too high.

That being said, Season 2 is now filming and Krysten Ritter posted a very telling picture of Charlie Cox reading her new book so she was at least present while he's busy on set, and she has said recently she's ready to return to the role, so it's not impossible....
 

YangusKhan

does the Underpants Dance
(He/Him/His)
I've reflected on it some, and mostly it's coming down as a disappointment due being an "incomplete" story. It felt like the season was building up to something big, but then the finale just kept escalating it and then oh I guess this is all set up for season 2. There were individual episodes and plot lines that I enjoyed, the the finale just deflated all my enthusiasm about the good things this show was doing.
 

Adrenaline

Post Reader
(He/Him)
I generally don't like when TV seasons don't tell complete stories, but with this being announced as an 18 episode thing and the way the story was going, I didn't expect any major resolution at all and so wasn't disappointed by that.
 

SpoonyBard

Threat Rhyme
(He/Him)
Yeah, I don't think they ever explicitly stated 'this will have a cliffhanger' but it wasn't a stretch to guess.

Thinking about it more, one lingering disappointment I did have with the finale was that Frank didn't more aggressively tear down the idology of the Punisher cops when he was facing them. Maybe they're saving that for his upcoming oneshot, which I think will happen before season 2, but I was hoping to see more of his reaction from the comics where he specifically calls out that they take an oath and should never be trying to be like him instead of just shouting "you don't know meeeee!"
 

Vaeran

(GRUNTING)
(he/him)
Staff member
Moderator
The season wasn't perfect, but overall I enjoyed it and am very much looking forward to season 2.

I'm still unhappy about Foggy's death, but I was greatly relieved to see Matt reconnecting with Karen in the finale. I don't need to see them romantically involved with each other but I'm glad their friendship wasn't just written out for the sake of narrative expediency. It was also nice to see Frank back and doing his thing with gusto, though I agree with Spoony that there should have been more meat on the bones of his admonition to his fanboys on the force. Maybe that'll come in S2, though this was really the time for it.

It must be thanks to the irresistible gravity well that is Vincent D'Onofrio's performance but I ate up every bit of Fisk content with a spoon. Even the side characters around him are compelling -- I loved hating Daniel the sycophant, and found Sheila's growing discomfort with her role engaging. (I did not see her betrayal of Gallo coming.) Even Buck is, I suppose, an acceptable replacement for my poor, sweet Wesley. The idea that there is a part of New York City that is exempt from all federal and state laws is delirious nonsense, but I'll allow it on the basis that it will lead to fun storytelling.

I realize it's accurate to the comics, but Daredevil swinging around the city like Spider-Man doesn't translate well to live action and looks very silly. And there were several points at which Matt's senses passed beyond "superhuman" and started bordering on the omniscient. I don't buy him being able to recognize Heather's face by running his fingers over a sketch of her, and I have no idea how he clocked the threat of Buck coming to kill him in the hospital.

I would have liked more time with both Hector Ayala and Muse to help them feel more fleshed out. I get that Ayala's murder is supposed to be shockingly abrupt, so I can excuse that, but between the filler episode at the bank and Muse feeling like a weird speedbump, the middle of the series feels a little aimless and loses narrative momentum.

When Matt remarked that he needs allies, a tiny, unreasonable part of me hoped he was going to call Alias Investigations.

Fisk: I have an army.
Matt: We have a Jessica.

All in all, though, this season sets up a city that is wired to explode, with humongous potential for season 2 that I desperately hope they capitalize on.

There is a mid-credits scene at the end of the final episode.
 
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