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To Infinity and Beyond: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Vaeran

perfect world
(he/him)
Also, the destruction of Asgard was listed as a category 7 disaster, but the hurricane that wrecked that store was a Category 10.

That… umm… that’s going to be a bad day.

I noticed that as well. Maybe Category 1 is the complete destruction of the multiverse, and they get less severe as you go up in numbers. The fact that it jumped out to so many of us as an apparent mistake and a distraction still means it's kind of sloppy writing, though.

This one didn't hang together for me as well as the pilot did. The "Holding Out for a Hero" fight at the beginning felt kind of flat and awkward, and a lot of the rest of the episode seemed to lack a certain confidence as well. I guessed the twist pretty early from the fact that we never saw the Variant's face or heard their voice, although since Loki is known for shapeshifting/illusions and even genderbending in Norse mythology, I guess this could still be some form of Loki after all. That said, I'm looking forward to seeing what kind of shenanigans are going to result from dropping all those reset charges into the main timeline.
 
The "Holding Out for a Hero" fight at the beginning felt kind of flat and awkward
Same. It felt like the producers were like, "Well, it's Marvel. We need some kinda action, that's what we do, right?" And kinda half-assed a fight sequence. The shaky cam can only hide so much, and the bare-bones choreography felt like I was watching an old Star Trek episode instead of something that fits in with this multibillion dollar cinematic universe.
 

Tegan

dirtbag lesbian
(She/Her)
it fights right in perfectly, because I swear to god the MCU has never had an interesting fight scene in the whole damn run
 

Tegan

dirtbag lesbian
(She/Her)
oh also this show continues to be mildly interesting but I've cooled on it significantly since that first episode. Theme song is still brilliant though; do we know if it has some wacky leitmotif hijinx in it yet, or was that strictly a Wandavision thing?
 

Rascally Badger

El Capitan de la outro espacio
(He/Him)
it fights right in perfectly, because I swear to god the MCU has never had an interesting fight scene in the whole damn run

Woah, I think you're forgetting . . .

. . .

the one at start of The Winter Soldier, when Cap fights Batroc ze leapaire?
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
Also, since a Category 0 is shown to be “Complete destruction of time”, 7 is “Giant Monster Destroys Planet”, and 10 is “Walmart wrecked by hurricane”, it seems to me that they use a count down system.

Or else they just have numbers assigned to specific disasters, and there’s no scale at all.

Or it was a category 10 hurricane (I don’t think hurricanes go that high, but it’s the future, maybe they adopted a new scale)


Didn’t strike me as an error is all, especially considering how deliberate all the setdressing is otherwise
 

Adrenaline

Post Reader
(He/Him)
I guessed the twist pretty early from the fact that we never saw the Variant's face or heard their voice, although since Loki is known for shapeshifting/illusions and even genderbending in Norse mythology, I guess this could still be some form of Loki after all.
I'm assuming it's still a version of Loki.
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
Female Loki isn’t exactly unknown in the comics. But it’s more of an alternate persona than a different person
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
I don’t want to victim blame here, but if you voluntarily live on a planet called Lamentius, you’re not allowed to be surprised when you wind up lamenting it

Also;, hey, Loki’s bi. I assumed that, but nice to have it confirmed explicitly
 

Vaeran

perfect world
(he/him)
This flowed a lot better than last week's, and I enjoyed the character work here, even if not much ended up happening in terms of the overall plot. It was even ten whole minutes shorter than the previous two. (Is there room for filler episodes in a six episode series? Guess we'll find out.)

Loki himself sure seems to have gotten a power upgrade -- he's slinging green bolts left and right, and righting that tower (or whatever it was) that was going to fall on them as they were running to the ark was some Wanda-level shit.

If Sylvie is a variant of Loki, she must be one that diverged very early on because she doesn't seem to know anything about his life, or at least pretends not to.

Some cool effects and set design on Lamentis. Visiting a random alien world on the brink of disaster at a random point in time felt very Doctor Who.
 

Sprite

(He/Him/His)
Also;, hey, Loki’s bi. I assumed that, but nice to have it confirmed explicitly
I’m both grumpy knowing that it will probably be edited out of international releases and won’t have any meaningful impact on the character on-screen and glad that they threw it in there because they’re getting away with what they can and that’s not nothing.

…still annoyed that Valkyrie didn’t get it on with a woman like Tessa Thompson wanted.
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
Also, regarding the other villain-focused Marvel series direct to streaming; MODOK really found its footing after a couple of episodes; being a kind of middle ground between Venture Brothers, Better Off Ted and Robot Chicken (mainly for the animation style).

The most recent episode revealed that the main villain is actually Hexus: The Living Corporation which is completely on brand for this show and also possibly the most obscure pick possible for a show about D-list villains.
 

SpoonyBard

A Bard Named SPOONY
(He/Him)
I wasn't sure what to make of this episode, I was absolutely expecting it to last another 5-10 minutes to reveal some final gambit or turnaround or betrayal, but it just ends on this no-escape cliffhanger. It felt like an odd decision, especially in a series with a small episode count like this.

But I saw something pointed out elsewhere and now I cannot believe I missed it: Loki totally palmed one of the Infinity Stones from the TVA. Gauranteed. Specifically, a Time Stone. Just look at the way he stopped that falling tower with a rather shocking new ability that the show almost tried to gloss over. The tower wasn't just lifted back up, its time was reversed. Also, I'm pretty sure the desk where those stones were being kept was destroyed by that Hunter when she tried to apprehend Loki, and if he baited that shot on purpose then no one would know he took one. Kind of like how Sylvie was hiding in apocalypses, like if her presence can't be verified if everything is destroyed and thus fell under the TVA's notice, Loki taking a Time Stone wouldn't be noticed if their container was vaporized.

This might turn out to be bunk, but if true then this show is much more clever and sneaky than I gave it credit for, which would be absolutely on brand.
 

BEAT

LOUDSKULL
(DUDE/BRO)
So I watched some of Loki.

My observations so far.
  • I bet this show would have been REALLY different if COVID hadn't come along and made filming with small crews in soundstages the only game in town.
  • I'd bet I'd think the idea of the most powerful force in the universe being a bunch of bored bureaucrats and a bunch of dickhead cops was more clever if I hadn't read The Screwtape Letters and watched The Good Place.
  • Owen Wilson deserves to be in more things.
  • It's kind of hilarious how THE BAD LADY actually sucks at her job.
  • Disney has been trying to sue people for publishing things that use actual Norse Mythology because they're a fucking evil company that seeks a fucking evil destination. This is an active attack on the very idea of public domain, an attempt to make their version of something the ONLY version of it. Pirating their media is the only moral way to consume it.
  • No seriously the only thing the bad lady has done in this episode so far is get owned it's hilarious.
 

BEAT

LOUDSKULL
(DUDE/BRO)
"MY PLAN WAS YEARS IN THE MAKING" yeah and it got totally fucked by one dude walking up behind you in a hallway great plan.
 

BEAT

LOUDSKULL
(DUDE/BRO)
Not that normal Loki's any better his big plan is a change of clothes and a voice a 13 year old uses when pretending to be his dad.
 
It's weird that Girl-Loki has led a completely different life and is a completely different person, but still wants to wear the same clothes and horns as Boy-Loki just by magical coincidence. The optimist in me wants to believe there's some kinda elaborate secret reason for this, but the realist in me knows that it's because the show is insulting my intelligence.
 

Super Megaman X

dead eyes
(He/Him)
Specifically, a Time Stone. Just look at the way he stopped that falling tower with a rather shocking new ability that the show almost tried to gloss over. The tower wasn't just lifted back up, its time was reversed.
I was sure that Loki grabbed a stone from the moment he saw them, and I did notice that him catching the tower falling seemed to be a bit beyond his paygrade. I also noticed that the way that the tower was restored was odd, it didn't seem in place with the rest of the effects going on, but I didn't put two and two together! Good eye on that!
 

Zef

Find Your Reason
(He/Him)
Just a small ask that there's lots of people who are still waiting to watch the show in their own time, so, can we use spoiler tags for discussing it even if we hate it or the corporation that filmed it? Thanks.
 
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