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Paul le Fou

24/7 lofi hip hop man to study/relax to
(He)
Wonder how well NieR: Automata's going to run on Switch.
Late, but I wonder this too. I have it on PC and have been considering double-dipping to play it on PS4 instead. Which I guess would be PS5 now. But I also have Steam Link set up so I can play it on the TV on my PC regardless. And now Switch is an option too. I... I don't know what to do.
 

SpoonyBard

Threat Rhyme
(He/Him)
If NieR Automata runs natively on Switch, yet Square still insisted on Kingdom Hearts (the first two) being cloud versions, then that is frankly baffling.
 

WildcatJF

Let's Pock (Art @szk_tencho)
(he / his / him)

R.R. Bigman

Coolest Guy
It’s wild how many games have been coming out, and will continue to come out, on Switch lately. Nintendo systems usually sputter out in their last year or so of life, but Switch has had a fairly busy summer, with some big stuff still coming. Meanwhile, PS5 and Xbox Series X are heading into what should be the start of the peak of their console lives, and this fall is a ghost town. I know we are now feeling the full force of the Covid disruption, but that doesn’t seem to be affecting Nintendo as sharply.
 

ArugulaZ

Fearful asymmetry
Hey, I don't mind if they keep the Switch alive as long as their previous system, the 3DS. What kind of life did that get, 10 years? 11 years? Yeah, I'm fine with that being the life of a console from now on. I don't need to buy a bunch of new systems every five years. It's a cycle I'm more than eager to break.
 

Violentvixen

(She/Her)
I wonder how much/if supply chain and manufacturing issues will extend this generation. I know a ton of people who have wanted Switches since early in the pandemic and have only gotten them in the last three to six months.
 

gogglebob

The Goggles Do Nothing
(he/him)
It’s wild how many games have been coming out, and will continue to come out, on Switch lately. Nintendo systems usually sputter out in their last year or so of life, but Switch has had a fairly busy summer, with some big stuff still coming. Meanwhile, PS5 and Xbox Series X are heading into what should be the start of the peak of their console lives, and this fall is a ghost town. I know we are now feeling the full force of the Covid disruption, but that doesn’t seem to be affecting Nintendo as sharply.

They are definitively out there, and people have them (myself included), but there is still a severe supply shortage that you can't "just buy" a Playstation 5. I have a PS5 because I jockeyed on online purchasing, but Gramma ain't getting one for lil' Timmy at the supermarket. And, as a result of that, it seems like the software developers are hedging their bets on still supporting the Playstation 4 and seeing that new games come out there, too (I am thinking particularly of the upcoming Street Fighter 6, for example). Replace every instance of Playstation with Xbox in the previous sentence, and that is the deal there, too. So I think publishers outside of Nintendo are still focusing on the Switch, too, because that at least doesn't require straddling two systems from jump street, and there is already a significant install base that isn't even threatened by a looming "Switch 2" hardware upgrade yet.

Honestly, in this environment, I feel Nintendo not confirming a "next hardware" system right now is kind of brilliant
 

MetManMas

Me and My Bestie
(He, him)
You can actually buy the Xbox Series X/S in stores without reservations though so big advantage for Microsoft right there. Chip shortages are a problem everywhere thanks to the horrible virus, but when you have a shiny new console to sell, being a western-based company with all the money has its advantages.
 

Bongo

excused from moderation duty
(he/him)
Staff member
I seem to remember reading an interview with Doug Bowser in which he said they were targeting an eight-year lifespan for the Switch, but I've been unable to find it again.
 

WildcatJF

Let's Pock (Art @szk_tencho)
(he / his / him)
They are supporting Splatoon 3 for two years with DLC and free updates, and Mario Kart 8 is getting new tracks until the end of 2023, so I'd guess it'll be 2024 before we see a new system on shelves...
 

Becksworth

Aging Hipster Dragon Dad
Depending on the nature of the Switch's successor it might come out sooner than that, but yeah a 7 year minimum lifespan for the Switch seems like a lock at this point.
 

Sarcasmorator

Same as I ever was
(He/him)
I can't say I'd even want a new system in 2024. Unless it had full back-compat with the Switch. It's basically ideal for what I want it for already. If the hardware can be meaningfully beefed up without my having to replace the game library I have, cool. But aside from the flimsiness of the Joy Cons I have few notes on the system. It's great. I want its successor to do exactly the same things.

One thing that strikes me about the PS5 is how much of its library that I'm actually interested in is huge open-world games and/or third-person action, which I can only tackle so many of in a row. Nintendo has, among other things, a lot of variety in its exclusives.

idk. I'm kind of at a point in my life where I'd be happy to just keep buying games for existing hardware and never upgrade my systems again. It all looks good enough to me!
 

Gaer

chat.exe a cessé de fonctionner
Staff member
Moderator
I’m with you Sarc. I’m way less interested in a Switch 2 if it doesn’t have full backward compatibility.

The PS5 not only having full PS4 compatibility but also improving most games with a patch is part of why we got one as early as we did for FFXV. Replaying my PS4 games with 60fps that made my Pro get antsy at 30fps has been absolutely amazing.
 

Sarcasmorator

Same as I ever was
(He/him)
Yeah, I'm closing in on the end of HFW so I signed up for PS+ and it'll take me months just to dig through all the PS4 games I missed before. Having both systems' worth of games on the thing was a big part of why I decided to go for it.

I am leery of subscription services for games in general but it just made sense to spend $100 for a year's worth of game library vs. $50 just for Spider-Man: Miles Morales. This way I can try a lot of things and splurge on the discs for anything I want to be sure to retain access to.
 
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Paul le Fou

24/7 lofi hip hop man to study/relax to
(He)
Yeah, I'm closing in on the end of HFW so I signed up for PS+ and it'll take me months just to dig through all the PS4 games I missed before. Having both systems' worth of games on the thing was a big part of why I decided to go for it.

I am leery of subscription services for games in general but it just made sense to spend $100 for a year's worth of game library vs. $50 just for Spider-Man: Miles Morales. This way I can try a lot of things and splurge on the discs for anything I want to be sure to retain access to.
Same. Stray was $30, and a year of upgrading to the next level of PS Plus was $40, or something like that. And it got me the Demon's Souls remake too, so it's already paid for itself. And since subscribing to Plus for the free monthly games, I've played enough of them every year that it's been easily worth it. I still have PS4 backlog games to go through, but now I have faster load times and sometimes better performance and/or nicer graphics.
 

ShakeWell

Slam Master
(he, etc.)
Meanwhile, PS5 and Xbox Series X are heading into what should be the start of the peak of their console lives, and this fall is a ghost town.

Is it? Silksong, Overwatch 2, Gotham Knights, the Marvel thing from the XCOM people, God of War: Ragnarok, a Modern Warfare II remake for some reason... Calisto Protocol by the end of the year... I mean, yes, Switch is getting great stuff, too (and at least some of that stuff), I'm especially stoked on Bayonetta 3, but I think the other platforms are getting some good stuff.
 

Sarcasmorator

Same as I ever was
(He/him)
In the next few months there's also the JoJo fighter, Valkyrie Elysium, Star Ocean, and early 2023 has Forspoken, which looks neat. And that's just stuff that I'm personally interested in. I'd encourage anyone with a PS5 to get Inscryption too, if they haven't played it on something else.
 

fanboymaster

(He/Him)
If the Jojo fighter is All Star Battle R it's an update of a PS3 game and coming to everything so it hardly feels like a PS5 title. I think the only one of those that's PS5 specific is Forspoken. For Shakewell's list you've got Gotham Knights as I think the only one of those that isn't targeting PS4 and Xbox One.

That's kind of the broader issue at play, The Switch makes a case for itself because it has a fundamentally different use case than other consoles, so when a game comes to Switch that's also on other things it's less inherently "oh that." We're closing in on a full 2 years of both systems and while they're definitely the "best" way to play new games on console they have little to convince someone that they really do need to upgrade. That evidently isn't hurting sales particularly but to be honest I literally have not turned on my PS5 in months, the fuck am I going to play on it? There's almost nothing that wouldn't be playable just fine on PS4 and nearly 2 years into a system's lifespan I won't lie and say that isn't at least a bit troubling and disappointing.
 

Sarcasmorator

Same as I ever was
(He/him)
ymmv, I suppose. I didn't get a PS4 so there's a lot of stuff I missed, and remasters of things I haven't played in a decade or more. It'll be months before I need a new game.
 

Ludendorkk

(he/him)
You can actually buy the Xbox Series X/S in stores without reservations though so big advantage for Microsoft right there. Chip shortages are a problem everywhere thanks to the horrible virus, but when you have a shiny new console to sell, being a western-based company with all the money has its advantages.

Sony Interactive Entertainment has actually been based in California since 2016, so it's now a Western company as well
 
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