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The DC Comics TV & Movie Thread - A Thread for Talking about Detective Comics Comics Television Shows and Movies
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I think it's a bit, and probably in there, but I haven't watched the trailer.
If anything I think of Jared Leto as a person who wouldn't have a sense of humor about his portrayal of the Joker, (by reputation took it too seriously) as opposed to Zack Snyder, of whom I have no impression.
I think there is like a 0% chance that "We live in a society" is not a bit. It's a good bit, I laughed out loud. It's fine if it's in the final movie. It's funny. I don't think a dumb meme reference everyone gets to laugh at whether you hate the very existence of this project or are excited by it is particularly worse than the 73% Whedon banter by volume dialogue of your average superhero movie. This dumb meme line is a beautiful gift to the world.
In any case, it's very successful PR and a good troll of basically everyone that guaranteed there would be a widespread social media discourse cycle discussing this trailer for a director's cut of a movie that came out in 2018.
For some reason both the Twitter trailer and the YouTube upload linked previously in this thread are in terrible video quality with a weird watermark, but the HBO Max page has a better quality version with no watermark, if anyone wants that.
In any case, it's very successful PR and a good troll of basically everyone that guaranteed there would be a widespread social media discourse cycle discussing this trailer for a director's cut of a movie that came out in 2018.
For some reason both the Twitter trailer and the YouTube upload linked previously in this thread are in terrible video quality with a weird watermark, but the HBO Max page has a better quality version with no watermark, if anyone wants that.
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I've never seen a modern movie trailer release on Youtube in 4:3. People can watch 16:9 videos by turning their phone sideways! Why is the movie in IMAX format when it is releasing exclusively on HBO Max!!!! Amazing
So are you saying HBO Max doesn't include HBO IMAX?
I am also baffled by why he chose this format*, but I think it's fine. 4:3 isn't necessarily worse, it's just nonstandard these days. If that's how he likes the shots, that's how he likes the shots. I kind of appreciate that he's being given the freedom to make weird choices like this, even if I have only ever thought one of his movies worked for me. I would rather another director be given this weird freedom to do dumb stuff with a budget this size, but it is what it is.
*I'm sure he's explained it somewhere. I just haven't looked it up and don't care.
*I'm sure he's explained it somewhere. I just haven't looked it up and don't care.
Probably just something as simple as not having to fit the standard theater aspect ratio since theaters are basically dead, and he wanted to experiment since WB was handing him gobs of money anyway.
I recall reading an interview with Zack Snyder where he says he is interested in using the IMAX format for superhero movies because the action tends to involve individuals standing upright, so a taller frame might suit it better. I believe he was going for an IMAX release of the theatrical version before all of that stuff happened, and since he was given more creative leeway for the streaming release (due to being free from the constraints of theatrical scheduling), he probably figured he might as well see it through.
I mean, yeah, most people don't have IMAX-size screens in their homes, but theaters will probably return one day.
I mean, yeah, most people don't have IMAX-size screens in their homes, but theaters will probably return one day.
They're definitely planning on a theatrical release of this eventually.
Things filmed natively in IMAX look way better in 4K at home, btw. So I'm excited for this.
Things filmed natively in IMAX look way better in 4K at home, btw. So I'm excited for this.
Hey why not, I'll give it a try
Wow. I buy it.
Also, Aquaman, king of Atlantis... hello.
Also, Aquaman, king of Atlantis... hello.
All Crows Are Bastards
Superman and Lois was good, if a bit predictable. Like, I think everyone can guess the beats of the episode just from hearing the premise. But I think they've set up potentially a very good show here. The main cast is all likeable and there are a lot of interesting areas to explore. I hope going forward Lois gets a little more to do, but it makes sense she takes a little bit of a back seat here, as it is a lot easier to establish "award winning journalist" than "teenager who just discovered he has superpowers."
That was good! Very good, even. It was like a mix of Secret Identity and the Golden Age. Which is a recipe for a very happy me, because those two are Superman at his best. The show looked really good too. I dunno if it was being anamorphic widescreen, or they just put a lot of work and effort into the pilot. I don't know if they'll manage to keep things this good over the long haul (I kinda doubt it, actually) but I'll buckle up for now.
WATCHED 2 MORE EPISODES OF BATWOMAN.
THE GOOD
Batwoman actually pointed out that the crows are fundamentally monstrous!!!
THE BAD
...just in time for WORST CHARACTER EVER to be like "eerrrrrm akkkturally they're not thaaat bad and imb trying to reform them from teh inside in a speech that just REEKED of Cable writers trying to give themselves a chance to "Both sides" this shit. Fuck cable writers.
Oh also batwoman, as in the fucking batwoman got jobbed by a 60 year old lady.
Also she spent 45% of the two episodes working with the Crows, who are bad.
Also Also the show can't stop name-dropping the Joker, which in a show with writing THIS terrible, feels like a THREAT.
Also Also Also Alice has graduated from "Walking in, Talking to the good guys then walking out ungrabbed" to "Just fucking living with the good guys, knowing that none of them will grab her because of course they won't It's not like she GETS OFF ON RANDOM MURDERS OR ANYTHING JESUS CHRIST WHAT IS *WRONG* WITH YOU ASSHOLES." The fucked up thing is I almost didn't even notice because I'm just so used to nobody even trying to stop her. I mean fucking seriously what even are stakes at this point.
Also Also Also ALSO Batwoman is now fucking her drug dealing ex and spent an entire episode walking around a gala as her alter ego, talking to the crows the entire time and still somehow nobody figured out that she was Batwoman.
Also Also Also ALSO ALSO It's literally impossible for me to even pretend to give a shit about the whole "KATE KANE IS DEFINITELY COMING BACK WE JUST HAVE TO WORK WITH THE MURDER LADY AND HER EVEN MORE MURDER BOSS TO GET HER OUT OF A VAULT ON A SECRET ISLAND THAT YOU JUST WENT TO plot. It's just. That's too much to fucking ask anyone to even PRETEND to get invested in. Is this gonna be the entire thing for a whole season? Kate wasn't even GOOD at being batwoman! She fucking Unmasked in public just because the criminal of the week said she was sad! Her final boss was a washed up linebacker! RUBY ROSE WON'T TAKE YOU BACK YOU STUPID ASSHOLES!!
So yeah it's a CW DC show.
THE GOOD
Batwoman actually pointed out that the crows are fundamentally monstrous!!!
THE BAD
...just in time for WORST CHARACTER EVER to be like "eerrrrrm akkkturally they're not thaaat bad and imb trying to reform them from teh inside in a speech that just REEKED of Cable writers trying to give themselves a chance to "Both sides" this shit. Fuck cable writers.
Oh also batwoman, as in the fucking batwoman got jobbed by a 60 year old lady.
Also she spent 45% of the two episodes working with the Crows, who are bad.
Also Also the show can't stop name-dropping the Joker, which in a show with writing THIS terrible, feels like a THREAT.
Also Also Also Alice has graduated from "Walking in, Talking to the good guys then walking out ungrabbed" to "Just fucking living with the good guys, knowing that none of them will grab her because of course they won't It's not like she GETS OFF ON RANDOM MURDERS OR ANYTHING JESUS CHRIST WHAT IS *WRONG* WITH YOU ASSHOLES." The fucked up thing is I almost didn't even notice because I'm just so used to nobody even trying to stop her. I mean fucking seriously what even are stakes at this point.
Also Also Also ALSO Batwoman is now fucking her drug dealing ex and spent an entire episode walking around a gala as her alter ego, talking to the crows the entire time and still somehow nobody figured out that she was Batwoman.
Also Also Also ALSO ALSO It's literally impossible for me to even pretend to give a shit about the whole "KATE KANE IS DEFINITELY COMING BACK WE JUST HAVE TO WORK WITH THE MURDER LADY AND HER EVEN MORE MURDER BOSS TO GET HER OUT OF A VAULT ON A SECRET ISLAND THAT YOU JUST WENT TO plot. It's just. That's too much to fucking ask anyone to even PRETEND to get invested in. Is this gonna be the entire thing for a whole season? Kate wasn't even GOOD at being batwoman! She fucking Unmasked in public just because the criminal of the week said she was sad! Her final boss was a washed up linebacker! RUBY ROSE WON'T TAKE YOU BACK YOU STUPID ASSHOLES!!
So yeah it's a CW DC show.
I’m trying to think of the singular moment where the DCTV stuff jumped the shark. Like, there’s a billion candidates, but what’s the earliest one?
I think maybe it was Season 2 of Arrow when Ollie watched helplessly as Deathstroke killed his mother in front of him.
I think maybe it was Season 2 of Arrow when Ollie watched helplessly as Deathstroke killed his mother in front of him.
So is Legends the only good one because rather than worrying about jumping the shark they just ride it off into the sunset, which then explodes dramatically?
I’d say that Supergirl started to jump the shark, but instead just kind of hovered over it for a while before going back.
And Doom Patrol named the shark and then made fun of it
And Doom Patrol named the shark and then made fun of it
The more I think about the 2nd season of Doom Patrol, the more dissatisfied I am about how it all went down. It definitely had a lot of great moments, but they were a bit too infrequent and divided between extremely boring consternation about dads being sad about their daughters. I don't know if that's a Jumping the Shark moment, but it's definitely a My Patience Is Being Tested By These Narrative Decisions moment.
Ye, Legends didn't Jump the Shark, it murdered the shark and then wore its carcass around in some ghoulish shark pantomime sketch. Which makes it simultaneously the best and also the worst DC show.
Ye, Legends didn't Jump the Shark, it murdered the shark and then wore its carcass around in some ghoulish shark pantomime sketch. Which makes it simultaneously the best and also the worst DC show.
The Flash came back last night and I just can't. I'm tapping out on this one.
2nd episode of Superman & Lois was still pretty good stuff. I'm digging the show a whole lot. The villain is big dumb tho. Superman was evil in my parallel universe, so that means this Superman will be evil too! This despite decades of rock solid evidence to the contrary.
Also, the chapter names for ZSJL came out:
Also, the chapter names for ZSJL came out:
Chapter 1: "Don't Count On It, Batman"
Chapter 2: "The Age of Heroes"
Chapter 3: "Beloved Mother, Beloved Son"
Chapter 4: "Change Machine"
Chapter 5: "All the King's Men"
Chapter 6: "Something Darker"
Chapter 2: "The Age of Heroes"
Chapter 3: "Beloved Mother, Beloved Son"
Chapter 4: "Change Machine"
Chapter 5: "All the King's Men"
Chapter 6: "Something Darker"
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I read half the AV Club write up and then realized I don't even care anymore. Might watch this one as it was wells-centric which usually helps.
I used to be so in love with that show. Sigh.
Welp, looks like Flash just killed off the only character I still liked.
I mean, he was killed because a mad science laser did something comic books to him, so he’ll be back in, like, two episodes tops BUT STILL
I mean, he was killed because a mad science laser did something comic books to him, so he’ll be back in, like, two episodes tops BUT STILL
Yuuuup. It was like the twentieth time they killed off Wells and I just don't care anymore. They tried so hard to make it a tear jerker, but I have no tears left for this show. Events of this magnitude happen every other episode in this show for years and it's just way to often. I wouldn't be so fatigued by this if they made it a point to have some joy once in a while.
Ok, so I said I was done with Flash. But I had to watch another episode to see how bad it could possibly get after hitting such a low point.
Last episode, the last Wells died to give Barry his speed back. This episode, begins with an overly saccharine tribute to all the dead Wells. Cool. Onto the plot. Barry starts thinking real good like, because now his new and improved powers means he thinks fast too. But he thinks *too* good and becomes a baddie because thinking is bad. So realizing he's now a baddie, he destroyed the machine that Wells gave his life for and now Barry is back at square one, minus a Wells. Except not! Because flashback to the first season, after Zoom killed the original Wells, Earth One's Wells resurrected somehow?? It would be comical at how bad this show has become if I didn't care.
Last episode, the last Wells died to give Barry his speed back. This episode, begins with an overly saccharine tribute to all the dead Wells. Cool. Onto the plot. Barry starts thinking real good like, because now his new and improved powers means he thinks fast too. But he thinks *too* good and becomes a baddie because thinking is bad. So realizing he's now a baddie, he destroyed the machine that Wells gave his life for and now Barry is back at square one, minus a Wells. Except not! Because flashback to the first season, after Zoom killed the original Wells, Earth One's Wells resurrected somehow?? It would be comical at how bad this show has become if I didn't care.
Love it, that’s the kind of nonsense I can get behind
Nonsense would be fun. But that's not the narrative focus of this episode. (Or any episode.) This is nonsense sketched in the margins of a bunch of handwringing about how sad everyone is all the time about everything and everyone, and it's painful. Barry is literally sad because he's so tired of being sad all the time, so he embraces becoming emotionless, but instead of becoming Data, he becomes Lore, and that makes everyone else sad, and then Barry gets sad all over again when being a baddie has consequences for his loved ones. It is an obscene exercise in sadness porn. I say this as a person who actually loves melodrama. But this is just like, taking a fun exercise like spinning in a teacup, and then spinning it so fast that your brain starts leaking out of your ears. Like I said, it would be an amazing hate-watch, but I generally like DC Comics and The Flash as a character, so this just makes ME sad instead. It's a bad time!