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Beowulf

Son of The Answer Man
(He/Him)
Got a Mini HDMI converter cable for my Retroid so I could play it on my TV as well.

Good news; it works and it makes the text on games designed for a larger screen than the Retroid itself much clearer.

Downside is that it puts so much dithering and artifacts on the screen that it makes every game look like a bad photoshop of itself.
I've found that it works pretty decently on a 16" portable monitor (and with a second controller plugged in--retains the portability for a nice 2-player experience you can bring with you) but I haven't done extensive trials on a big-screen TV.
 

Tegan

𝑬𝑿▰▰▰▰▰▱▱▱
(She/Her)
Started this sort of stream of consciousness earlier thinking about how the consumer-grade technology advances made in the early-to-mid-2000s completely changed how we arranged our living rooms and how that cascaded out into various aspects of product design, including consoles. Like, consoles used to be designed with the certainty of exactly how far the player could be from the console, and then larger displays that necessitated sitting further away came along, and then low-latency wireless controllers came along, and suddenly you had to think about things like how nothing past the Gamecube can ever have the power button on the top of the console again* because now that console is in the entertainment center across the room and not a maximum of 2 metres away on the carpet or on a coffee table. Same for top-loading disc mechanisms; those had to be retired in favour of pop-out trays or slot-loading mechanisms. Controllers need a way to remotely turn the console on and off because of how annoying it would be to do it manually every time. Everything adopted the HDMI-CEC standard. Entertainment centers changed from big vertical cabinets to low horizontal ones to accommodate wider TVs, and every device in the cabinet had to become flatter in turn. It's neat stuff to think about! I'll bet someone into the history of furniture could tell you a lot about how like, sofas and coffee tables changed, either in design or even just arrangement.

*except the Switch, but I mean, come on.
 

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
Yeah, when I was a kid we had this enormous wooden entertainment center that went from the floor to the ceiling, had room for up to a 32 inch CRT, a slide out panel for CDs/VHSs, a door with a glass window where my dad kept all his audiophile equipment that I was told not to touch when I was a kid, and a drawer under the TV that we basically used as a junk drawer. It took up most of the wall it was up against. In the basement, we had one of those console TVs sitting on the floor that you turned on my turning the volume up, with just a RF input, which is where I played videogames through the N64 era.

Now my wife and I have a very wide, low, black wooden basically platform, mostly filled with my wife's DVDs, where I have to figure out where to put all my systems next to our enormous 70 inch 4k HDTV. It is fascinating how much that has changed just in my lifetime (I'm in my 30s).
 

lincolnic

can stop, will stop
(he/him)
I will admit that I occasionally get annoyed at having to get up and walk across the living room on my stupid legs to turn on my Super NT. Yes, it's supposed to be like a SNES, but it was made last year! Give me some way to turn it on remotely.
 

ArugulaZ

Fearful asymmetry
I for one welcomed our thinner, lighter, sharper LCD overlords. I know people romanticize them, but realistically, I think we all knew CRTs were a pain in the ass, and I'm quite happy to leave their ponderous bulk and power sucking design in the past where they belong. A fourteen inch CRT set for the sake of nostalgia and compatibility with older consoles is fine, but anything larger than 20 inches and I am out.
 

Tegan

𝑬𝑿▰▰▰▰▰▱▱▱
(She/Her)
That's not a judgement call; I obviously prefer my big flatscreen setup. I was just putting together a lot of thoughts aboud things I hadn't thought much about previously since I just bought a new entertainment center and realized what a pain in the ass it is to turn the Gamecube on.
 

ArugulaZ

Fearful asymmetry

Phantoon: I thought it was common knowledge that CRTs use significantly more energy than LCD and other television models. Just in case, I did a quick Google search, and this study seems to verify that.

Research conducted by E Source, an energy efficiency and technology company, in 2011 compared a 55-inch of each style for five hours in active, or “on,” mode. The CRT set used a staggering 400 watts (W) followed distantly by the plasma and LCD sets at 165 W and finally by the LED at 155 W. The data also revealed that the same televisions in standby mode (when the television is turned off, but still plugged in and drawing some power) for 19 hours a day, the CRT drew 8 W compared to the LCD drawing .4 W. And a 25-inch CRT used more power than a 35-inch LCD at 95 W and 65 W respectively.
 

Phantoon

I cuss you bad
That's true, but nobody I know ever had a 55 inch CRT. They were much, much smaller. Whereas now the sky is the limit, and the bigger TVs are comparable in power consumption. I'll bet if you compared electrical consumption now with then there will be very little difference.
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
On the one hand, 50 inch CRTs could double as shelving all on their own.

On the other hand, nothing else about them was a good idea
 

Phantoon

I cuss you bad
Nobody in the UK would've had one, it'd take up a large portion of a room. I think I got to 30 inches at my most extravagant
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
We had one which cost at least twice what a 50 inch tv costs now, without adjusting for inflation, and was about the size of a small couch
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
Well, that depends on how much you enjoy them.

I'm not a fan myself, but I won't tell you you're wrong if you feel differently.
 

muteKi

Ell eye ell why, ee ee ell why
I'm of the belief that dpi on modern lcd tvs has gotten to a point where old stuff looks as good as it did on older (crt) tvs. This post brought to you by the dreamcast composite out gang
 

Sarge

hardcore retro gamin'
I do suspect that with OLED tech and high enough resolution coupled with CRT filters, it's close enough for most people. I'd consider getting an OLED, but the 4:3 aspect ratio of so much content I consume plus using it as a monitor makes the burn-in/uneven wear problem terrifying to me.
 

Phantoon

I cuss you bad
It turns out that the 21 inch Panasonic CRT that we put in the garage ten years or so ago still works fine. Good news!
 

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
I haven't seen them all of course, but every CRT filter I've seen on various systems and on various HDTVs/monitors looks absolutely terrible to me. I'm glad I have a 20 inch CRT for when I'm feeling like I want a "classic" experience.
 

Ludendorkk

(he/him)
I haven't seen them all of course, but every CRT filter I've seen on various systems and on various HDTVs/monitors looks absolutely terrible to me. I'm glad I have a 20 inch CRT for when I'm feeling like I want a "classic" experience.

Yeah this is how I feel, LCDs really just can't replicate the effect properly due to the difference in how the technology works. I do like some of the "dot matrix" type filters though
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
I’m not sure if this is a setting I accidentally bungled (accidentally reset the Retroarchs settings and spent a good long while trying to get it back the way I liked) or something else, but it’s taking me a longer time than before to create and load savestates on my Retroid. It used to be instant, and now there’s a good five second delay before it’ll load or save anything.

Anyone know why?

EDIT!

AHA! Buried unintuitively, several menus deep was an option where nothing about its name would suggest "speed up writing and loading save states" (Threaded Tasks), which I had turned off.
 
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MCBanjoMike

Infamous third lava dolphin
(He/him)
I will admit that I occasionally get annoyed at having to get up and walk across the living room on my stupid legs to turn on my Super NT. Yes, it's supposed to be like a SNES, but it was made last year! Give me some way to turn it on remotely.
I don't know if the Super Nt retains its power state once it loses electricity, but if it does: smart outlet. I had one for my MiSTer for a while, you could just yell at the thing to turn it on.
 

Purple

(She/Her)
This is potentially a much more elegant solution for my Gamecube problem than the one I was considering: a wifi-enabled robot finger.
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ShakeWell

Slam Master
(he, etc.)
1. Is it region free? I.E. if I get a PC Engine and PC Engine CD, can I play both Rondo of Blood on it, and an American copy of Bomberman '93?
2. I've heard the PC Engines are notorious for needing to be recapped, which is something I can possibly handle as I have some soldering experience - is it difficult for a person who hasn't quite done fine soldering like on a N64 Digital, but has succeeded at pretty much everything short of that?
3. If I end up getting a CD drive, what system card should I go for, or do I have to pick up more than one for compatibility? I'm not looking for a huge PC Engine collection tbh, but I'm not sure how that works.
4. For output - I have an upscaler that accepts either S-video or composite, so will that work? I know the base model white PC Engine (the model I want, aesthetically, I don't like the way Duos look tbh) is RF only, but if I get a CD, can I output composite, or do I need some weird add on? If I need an add on, what is it called?

I really know very little about this system lol. Thanks in advance!

I know I'm repeating a little, but to get all the answers in one spot:
1. Yes for CDs, no for cards. But if you're paying for a PCE, grabbing an Everdrive (will only play Hueys, not CD games) for like $70 is probably worth it, and that will do both regions no problem.
2. This is true, and you should be able to handle it yourself, but.... (See 4)
3. I personally use a Duo-R with an Arcade Card Pro, but with Duo-R/RX or American TurboDuo you ONLY need a card if you want to play Arcade Card games, which, uh... you probably don't care all that much, there are very few games that need it and the majority are Neo-Geo ports. As for other models (PCE with add-on OR Japanese pre-R Duo models), you'd want the 3.0 card, a.k.a. the Super CD ROM card, because a good portion of the library is Super CD-ROM2 games, which are unplayable without that.
4. Composite is the best you'll get without a mod or the SSD3 from massive dickheads TerraOnion. If you get a video output mod, most modders will do the recap, too. That's how I got mine done.
 

Sarge

hardcore retro gamin'
Anyone got feedback on the best place to get Neo Geo MVS boards? I've actually got two, but they both have issues and I'm not sure I want to trace them all out right now (although I do have leads on what may be wrong with one). I was looking on Arcade Projects and saw this one for $150. I have no idea if that's a terrible price or not, but it doesn't look like a bad deal with an installed UniBIOS 4.0 and a battery mod.
 
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