The anchor lets you metal scream for a damage boost, but fuckhead's axe causes a little earthquake so it's hard to decide which one to keep in the right hand.
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Elden Ring is finally real
The anchor lets you metal scream for a damage boost, but fuckhead's axe causes a little earthquake so it's hard to decide which one to keep in the right hand.
I beat Radahn. I was kind of amused afterwards when Alexander talked about taking one hit and running away, in contrast to my character (who spent most of the second half of the fight running around on horseback nowhere near the boss just resummoning the ally NPCs to do the job for me). I did make an attempt to finish him off once he was low on HP, but only realised after failing to fire several times that I’d run out of arrows and had no MP left after doing a fair bit of attacking in the first phase.
Namco Bandai posted some stats for the game so far:
I met the Mimic Tear in Nokron - one of the easiest bosses for me so far. Someone had left a message nearby that I was feeling too: “Didn’t expect weak foe, therefore time for introspection.”
There was a new patch last time I played, too. The patch notes made it sound like it was buffing a lot of the stuff I’ve been using but I haven’t noticed any improvement. Oh well.
There was a new patch last time I played, too. The patch notes made it sound like it was buffing a lot of the stuff I’ve been using but I haven’t noticed any improvement. Oh well.
Ludendorkk
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That boss's difficulty is entirely based on what gear you bring to the fight
One of the all-time greats.
As for the patch, it seemed like it buffed weapon stat scaling and made minor tweaks to make certain attacks faster. The improvements are probably pretty subtle - a few points of AR here, an attack landing a couple frames quicker there, things like that.
I have for some reason set myself on the course of not taking the obvious path forwards until I’ve explored everywhere else, so I’m resisting the pull of the dectus lift (for which I now have the keys) and am instead exploring the deeproot depths. Getting there was pretty tough - I think I had more goes at the Valiant Gargoyles than any boss since Margit, and in fact I may have had the same problem: NPC summons. Apparently they give like a 60% HP boost to bosses. I was struggling to deal significant damage to the gargoyles when I had D with me, but once I dropped him and just used a spirit ash (Latenna the Albinuric in this case instead of my usual undead militiamen who were not lasting long enough) I killed the first once first try before dying and after several less successful attempts managed to take them both out.
Yeah, summons have always boosted boss health, which is offset by having someone else to draw attention. This advantage is lessened when there are multiple boss enemies at once.
The valiant gargoyles are also just a notoriously hard fight (which I hate). I find the advantage worth the extra HP when it means an NPC can tank one of the bosses for a little bit, but that also depends on being able to burn their HP down all the faster, which isn't always easy.
I do think it's fun to use an NPC summon(s) and a spirit ash together and get your own little gank squad against bosses, though.
I do think it's fun to use an NPC summon(s) and a spirit ash together and get your own little gank squad against bosses, though.
There are quite a few graces, yes! About as many as normal, maybe slightly less dense, but I don't think by too much.
Near the lift: There's one to the left of the Lift (I think that's north, northwest?) that is weirdly hard to find despite its proximity; another to the left (north) of the long road further down; one if you follow the ridge from the lift to the north. Those three should get you a good foothold for further exploration.
There are definitely plenty of graces. Come to think of it, not as many or at least not as dense as in Limgrave, but probably about the same density as in Liurnia.
There are definitely plenty of graces. Come to think of it, not as many or at least not as dense as in Limgrave, but probably about the same density as in Liurnia.
I guess I just picked the wrong paths. I went north along the road to the map, then cut out west looking for grace, found a church that I thought would have one but didn’t, went a bit north from there, then died and found myself back at the bottom of the lift. I’ve since gone up through the ruin strewn precipice and found a few sites at the top of that, but maybe I’ll go back to the lift and look around some more.
I’m still playing Elden Ring, approaching 240 hours now and still haven’t finished it, which seems kind of ridiculous. I think it’s a combination of my being pretty bad at the game and my completionist tendencies - I’m walking almost everywhere, checking out every place I can find on the map, doing all the caves and catacombs I come across, fighting every boss. I think I’ve done most of the NPC quests, though when I reached the dung eater and he was talking about going on a murder spree I just killed him then and there.
I think I’m getting pretty close to the end now. I’m most of the way through the mountaintop, but currently on a detour through the haligtree. I’ve also got access to the lord of blood’s area, which I guess I’ll do after the tree. I think all earlier areas are pretty thoroughly done with, aside from a few bosses that gave me trouble that I’ve marked on the map to come back to. I’m still really enjoying this game, but also looking forward to finishing it and playing other stuff again.
I think I’m getting pretty close to the end now. I’m most of the way through the mountaintop, but currently on a detour through the haligtree. I’ve also got access to the lord of blood’s area, which I guess I’ll do after the tree. I think all earlier areas are pretty thoroughly done with, aside from a few bosses that gave me trouble that I’ve marked on the map to come back to. I’m still really enjoying this game, but also looking forward to finishing it and playing other stuff again.
I read a guide and arranged events such that I could both kill Dung Eater and get all his stuff.
I was also all set for Ranni's ending but chose a different one because I didn't know you had to replay the whole thing to try a different one D:
I was also all set for Ranni's ending but chose a different one because I didn't know you had to replay the whole thing to try a different one D:
You don't, I think, if you save in a different slot right before doing the ending? At least I remember a way to get multiple endings via one playthrough but I may be misremembering things someone else told me....
at least I forget if you can even save in a different slot, but what I'm trying to say is that you should be able to see multiple without playing through again
at least I forget if you can even save in a different slot, but what I'm trying to say is that you should be able to see multiple without playing through again
There's some shenanigans you can pull with cloud saves, yeah, but I never figured out how to do it. I think if you've already done the ending without setting it up you're too late to go back and do that, though.
240 hours is a lot! I finished my first run-through at 150 hours, and my second more completionist one at around 120. And I thought I was on the long side! That said, if you're doing the Haligtree you're pretty close to the end. (You've also technically jumped ahead a bit on the difficulty scale, since that area and its boss are tuned for the endgame, though I wouldn't let that stop you; you get a ton of runes and good loot there.)
240 hours is a lot! I finished my first run-through at 150 hours, and my second more completionist one at around 120. And I thought I was on the long side! That said, if you're doing the Haligtree you're pretty close to the end. (You've also technically jumped ahead a bit on the difficulty scale, since that area and its boss are tuned for the endgame, though I wouldn't let that stop you; you get a ton of runes and good loot there.)
I only learned the particulars after it was too late. As far as I can tell I'm stuck.
I’ve reached the boss of the Haligtree. Seems tough! On my first attempt I tried to summon my spirit ash after the cutscene and she dashed across the arena and took me out immediately. My second attempt (without the cutscene) started me at the entrance instead of the middle of the room, so I got my summon out, then pretty much spent the first phase chasing her around the room while the summon did all the damage. I made a decent dent in her HP in the second phase before dying, and I haven’t made it past phase one since. I see from earlier in the thread that she’s had more attempts made than any other boss, so I don’t feel too bad about it.
I’ve gone back to the giants mountaintop for now. I was thinking that I’ll try her again in a few levels, but going from an area where the weakest enemies drop 2000 runes to one where it’s more like 200 probably won’t help with that.
I’ve gone back to the giants mountaintop for now. I was thinking that I’ll try her again in a few levels, but going from an area where the weakest enemies drop 2000 runes to one where it’s more like 200 probably won’t help with that.
Malenia was the sole boss I defeated with help from another player (I called for help a few times on the final boss too, but ended up beating it alone). She's tough!
No reason not to harvest Haligtree runes for a bit, there's a good stretch after the chapel where the enemies aren't too tough but drop a lot.
No reason not to harvest Haligtree runes for a bit, there's a good stretch after the chapel where the enemies aren't too tough but drop a lot.
I beat the Fire Giant on the mountain, but I’m reluctant to progress the plot until I’ve done everything else so I didn’t go up to the big pot after it where I assume I’ll be lighting a fire. Instead I’m exploring the Mohgwyn Palace, which is probably the best grind spot so far. From one of the sites of grace you can go to a cliff edge and fire an arrow to aggro a big bird who then runs off a cliff for 13K runes, then go down a corridor full of passive enemies (with a few active ones mixed in) that give over 2K each. I’m getting around 50K in what seems like about two minutes there.
That said, I am trying not to grind. Generally I’ve used grind spots when I’ve been quite close to having enough runes for a level and I’ve wanted to top up and get it before losing them. The spots that I remember using:
-The site of grace in Stormveil Castle just before the boss, from where you can attack a troll from behind and run into a corridor where it can’t follow you - I spent a long time getting 1K per run there for topups.
-Outside the beast cathedral in Caelid, where the vulgar militia give 1K each.
-Near the end of the Deeproot Depths there’s a grace from which you can approach one of the fire breathing statues from behind and melee it safely for 4K, then turn around and range attack another one for another 4K. They don’t seem to be able to rotate.
-That spot in the haligtree Sarcasmorator mentioned.
-This spot in the mohgwyn palace.
That said, I am trying not to grind. Generally I’ve used grind spots when I’ve been quite close to having enough runes for a level and I’ve wanted to top up and get it before losing them. The spots that I remember using:
-The site of grace in Stormveil Castle just before the boss, from where you can attack a troll from behind and run into a corridor where it can’t follow you - I spent a long time getting 1K per run there for topups.
-Outside the beast cathedral in Caelid, where the vulgar militia give 1K each.
-Near the end of the Deeproot Depths there’s a grace from which you can approach one of the fire breathing statues from behind and melee it safely for 4K, then turn around and range attack another one for another 4K. They don’t seem to be able to rotate.
-That spot in the haligtree Sarcasmorator mentioned.
-This spot in the mohgwyn palace.
OK so the main thing going to the pot will do is send you to Farum Azula. Until you finish Farum Azula itself, the greater world won't change except for the tree being on fire. After that, old Leyndell will be replaced, but everything else will remain the same. So basically, you want to make sure you have everything you want from Leyndell before finishing Farum Azula, but other than that you're good and can do the other stuff at any point.
I beat Malenia, after many attempts. I had looked up strategies online and used a few of them unsuccessfully - bringing Ogha to fire big arrows and knock her down, using Black Knife Tiche, and the main one claimed as a cheese - I levelled up Rivers of Blood, put on arcane boosting equipment (I haven’t put a single level into that stat), summoned the mimic tear and used a lot of the weapon’s ash of war to try for bleeding. This got me to the second phase pretty regularly, but I couldn’t beat it. Eventually I decided to go back to what I’ve been doing for most of the game. I unequipped stuff I wasn’t using for the fight (my bow and so on), changed my talisman selection for boosted stats, equipped the heaviest armour that didn’t bork my roll, and put on my +25 hook claws, which I then used ash of war to add cold to. Then I went into the fight and summoned the mimic again. This got me through phase one pretty quickly and reliably, between frostbite and bleed, but I struggled to get close enough to land hits in phase two, so then I’d start throwing lightning spears while the mimic distracted her. After a few unsuccessful attempts, I had one where I had her at about half health in phase two before the mimic died, then I switched back to the claws, dodged somewhat better than usual, went through crimson flasks like mad, and just managed to land enough hits.
Being at level 180-something probably helped too.
Being at level 180-something probably helped too.
Nice! Good job!
I was about level 175, deliberately playing where I would try to be absurdly overpowered for any challenge I came across and felt I was just right balance for the Haligtree. A friend of mine who hosts D&D at his house was fighting her once when I came over, he was at level 125. That's about what I assumed had been the natural point for most players (assuming most players can find the haligtree at all)