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Drawing Lots and Lots of Little Pictures- A Cartoon Thread

ArugulaZ

Fearful asymmetry
I caught some footage on YouTube and dang, this show is total chaos. Definitely not one for the purists, as some of the characters have markedly different personalities from their 1960s debuts. It's disappointing that they made Yogi Bear an insufferable douchebag, but I do appreciate that Snagglepuss is the town's media personality, and has a Dana Snyder-powered voice that finds a comfortable middle ground between the original character and... uh, any character Dana Snyder has ever played.
 

ArugulaZ

Fearful asymmetry
I mean, like worse than usual. There's no park ranger to keep him in check, and although Huckleberry Hound is the mayor, he's much too passive to pull him back from the brink of total dickishness. In one episode, Yogi destroys half the town to make a tourism video. In another, he eats the entire town. And to think someone made him a doctor! I'll take my chances with the cancer, thanks.
 

MetManMas

Me and My Bestie
(He, him)
It's disappointing that they made Yogi Bear an insufferable douchebag
Considering he's regularly been the leader and/or star in countless Hanna-Barbera ensemble features and spinoffs I can kinda see why someone might want to adapt him into an insufferable douchebag.
 

Johnny Unusual

(He/Him)
Just letting people know I'm hosting a contest to determine the top 25 cartoon characters of all time (as decided by talking time). Please do take part. I think it would be neat.

 

FelixSH

(He/Him)
Rewatched single episodes of a few shows:

Danny Phantom - Still a very enjoyable show, with a lot of neat action and a nice sense of humor. I understand, why I liked this show so much when it was new.
My Life as a Teenage Robot - I do like the artstyle, and it's not bad, but I feel like it aged worse than Danny Phantom. Don't even know why, exactly, but it just felt goofier and less meaty, or something. Which might just be me, not liking classical cartoons that much, which this show seems to draw some of its ideas from.
Starla and the Jewel Riders - Uh, honestly, considering what it is (a 90s cartoon for girls), it was pretty enjoyable? Like, there are way too many cute animal companions and the writing is very 90s, but...there is also a bit of continuity, the heroes are magical girls, who actually fight and can be somewhat badass (not too much, but, again, 90s) and the CGI was probably pretty nice, at the time - I remember loving it, when I watched this show as a kid. I honestly could imagine watching more of it.
 

ArugulaZ

Fearful asymmetry
Adult Swim is teasing a show called Learn with Pibby, which starts out as an educational series in the vein of Dora the Explorer or Nihao Kai-lan, but quickly goes sideways when a roaming glitch swallows up all the other Cartoon Network characters (but not DC's; they're replaced with expies) and transforms them into digital zombies. The formerly cute, abstractly drawn lead loses an eye in the chaos, and hardens into a cartoon-slaying bad-ass.


I'm seeing a lot of people getting excited about this one, but honestly, the concept leaves me cold. We've seen a lot of this sort of thing in the 21st century, whether it's gore porn featuring cuddly cartoon characters (Happy Tree Friends) or zombies (The Walking Dead) or Warner Bros. shitting on its stable of Hanna-Barbera stars (much of what was on Adult Swim in its early days). I'm not sure what the point is to this series... it's advertised on YouTube as part of Aqua Teen Hunger Force, and there are rumors that it's marketing for an all-star fighter similar to the one Nickelodeon released earlier this year. Whatever the motivation is for this, count me out.
 
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JBear

Internet's foremost Bertolli cosplayer
(He/Him)
I'm not interested in this at all, but I think it's fascinating that it's allowed to exist.
 

MetManMas

Me and My Bestie
(He, him)
I'm not interested in this at all, but I think it's fascinating that it's allowed to exist.
Exactly. We've seen this same ol' "corrupt something adorable into something mature by way of horrible violence" thing time and time again...But even if it's far from the first or last time at least Time-Warner is open to allowing stuff to be done with their enormous roster that you wouldn't expect.

Whether it's a gory Scooby-Doo/Supernatural crossover, or realistic Elmer Fudd in an issue of Batman, or that social justice Flintstones comic.
 

Sprite

(He/Him/His)
I think it looks fun and earnest in a way that "what if kids show but violent" stuff usually isn't. It's a mishmash of old ideas but I'm into it. Fat Cat lady better survive.
 

Tegan

dirtbag lesbian
(She/Her)
Yeah I'm kind of into it. That glitchy aesthetic is something I feel like Actual TV doesn't get a lot of either.
 

gogglebob

The Goggles Do Nothing
(he/him)
On one hand, my initial reaction is absolutely that this is more "edgy for the sake of edgy" of a certain kind that I am outright tired of. As has been said, Adult Swim made its mark doing practically this exact thing. And Adventure Time specifically was already something that did not shy away from "corrupted cartoons" as a concept. Those gooey mutant zombies that skulked around AT? Seems similar to "glitch" Finn/Jake, and thus makes me think this is something that is trying to reframe something that already successfully reframed itself. Adventure Time got darker as it went, while this feels like it was created by someone who sees no difference between (vaguely mature) Finn the Human and (eternally goofy) Fred Flintstone. I can see some shadowy executive in a boardroom chomping on a cigar and shouting the characters of Adventure Time, The Jetsons, and Steven Universe can all hang out together because "they're all cartoons, right?"

That said.

If I think about it for a little longer (and I think about cartoons a lot, natch), Adult Swim earned its reputation with its Sealabs and Birdmans twenty years ago. A significant chunk of that programming was directly lampooning the Bush administration, and that political period feels like it was approximately seventeenbillion millennia ago. Adventure Time itself premiered in 2010, and, if you were target demo 10 when it first hit the airwaves, you're 21 now. And it makes me think that, in the same way being an adult and judging a kiddy cartoon from the perspective of an adult is wrong (see: practically any contemporary animated reboot of an established "to sell toys" franchise and "fan" reactions), I feel like judging this as "been done" or "not creative enough" or "edgy for the sake of edgy" in my own mind is doing a disservice to the college "kids" that are probably going to eat this up with a spoon. I don't mean to imply anyone else in this thread is unfairly judging this show like I am, but, from a personal perspective, I kind of feel like this isn't "for me". I had "my" Harvey Birdman defending Shaggy and Scooby in court, the next gen can have a Nick Jr. expy dealing with Corrupted Finn & Jake. It's their turn to swim with the adults for the first time.
 

ArugulaZ

Fearful asymmetry
I guess that might be what this comes down to... Pibby isn't made for me, or my generation. Millennials and zoomers grew up with the high drama of Steven Universe, so I guess that's the approach they'll be taking with their HB crossovers. Do I like that direction? Not particularly. Is the decision out of my hands? Yep, pretty much. Am I upset enough to do anything more than impotently gripe about it on forums and social media? Not particularly. It's Hanna-Barbera, a line of cartoons so cheap the characters wear ties to hide their lack of necks. I could die on that hill, but there's probably not enough dirt there for me to be buried underneath it.
 

MetManMas

Me and My Bestie
(He, him)
I acknowledge that there's the generational gap and all, but also I am so tired of seeing loads and loads of shows and comics and games that are all into torture and murder and Poopy Gore Land and horrible people being assholes.

Like, I get that this is and always has been Adult Swim's M.O., but it'd be nice to see a lot more mature cartoons that are actually mature, you know?
 

Exposition Owl

could use a space fortress
(he/him/his)
I acknowledge that there's the generational gap and all, but also I am so tired of seeing loads and loads of shows and comics and games that are all into torture and murder and Poopy Gore Land and horrible people being assholes.

Like, I get that this is and always has been Adult Swim's M.O., but it'd be nice to see a lot more mature cartoons that are actually mature, you know?

Totally agree. I find myself thinking of the kids on the Internet who reacted to Wind Waker by saying that they wanted a “mature Zelda” instead, where “maturity” meant blood and guts and brooding and misogyny. It’s funny how “adult” in a pop culture context usually means “adolescent.”
 

Sprite

(He/Him/His)
It’s definitely a show for the creepypasta generation. Feels like the natural endpoint for Adventure Time’s dominance as an influence.
 

Kirin

Summon for hire
(he/him)
Finished up season one of Owl House. Good stuff! Like a lot of its ilk, it takes a bit to get going... the early episodes were so focused on "good lessons for children" that we almost didn't make it through , but it starts picking up interesting world-building here and there before really shifting into plot drama big-time in the last couple episodes. And of course a bit earlier there's the Grom Queen ep where I was like "ah yes, here's the exact moment where TT fell in love with this show".

I see there's currently a half-season block out - do we know when the rest of S2 will drop yet?
 

jpfriction

A most radical pontiff
Nothing that I’ve seen and Dana Terrace has already said the show isn’t a favorite among the top brass so Disney might do its disney thing and quietly dump it all on streaming with little fanfare. They do seem to be getting handful of extra long episodes for season 3 to wrap things up at least.
 

Octopus Prime

Jingle Device
(He/Him)
I’ll be perfectly honest; Earthworm Jim, completely divorced from its creator and being extremely upfront about that fact, is something I’ve wanted for years.

So, “me, Octo”
 
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