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Drawing Lots and Lots of Little Pictures- A Cartoon Thread

FelixSH

(He/Him)
Been watching Solar Opposites since it showed up on Disney + in Canada (yet Owl House still has not...), and yes, it’s very much leaning on Rick and Morty in nearly every capacity.

HOWEVER

The only two areas in which it is not leaning on Rick and Morty is that it’s riffing on the likes of Invader Zim and The Munsters, instead of Doctor Who and BttF. And more importantly; everyone on the show likes each other. Dan Harmon has nothing to do with the show and it lacks the outright misanthropy that defines all his work.

Even the Rick analog, the alien who introduces each episode talking about how much he hates Earth and everything on it is, at worst, a curmudgeon and is desperate for everyone to like him.

Also, terrible internet people have yet to poison the show by association. It’s win-win!

This totally sold me on Solar Opposites. I watched through Rick and Morty one time, just out of curiousity and than because it had good parts. But the nihilism and misanthropy always bugged me. So, a show that's as clever, but with actual empathy sound, indeed, like a win-win.

Didn't help that R&M seemed to have created a fandom that was even bad compared to other fandoms. Which is quite a feat.

It's kind of weird, my partner tried to show me some random Rick and Morty and I bounced off it real quick because it's just too relentlessly mean to be any fun. But then she got me into Community, which is *also* created and written by Dan Harmon, and *that* one stuck. I mean sure they sometimes get mean in the moment but in the end the main cast all basically support each other. I dunno, for whatever reason the latter works for me while the former just completely doesn't. I guess this isn't really the right thread for this topic though...

I feel like Community at least knows that the people are actually terrible? Unlike Rick and Morty, where the show acts like Rick is intelligent, and therefore beyond the need to be a decent human being. And as you said, the main cast still does support each other. The basic vibe just feels less antagonistic.

Ugh, that kind of thing drives me up a wall. It’s like when the Dudes on the Internet years ago said that they wanted a “mature” Zelda game, by which they meant a grimdark Zelda game with lots of gore and bare breasts. By “mature” they don’t mean adult—they mean adolescent.

I guess I completely missed that one. Well, can't say I'm sad about it. I mean, someone once mentioned the idea for a steam- or cyberpunk Zelda game, which does sound interesting and dark. But not gore and naked women, please.
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
In the interest of full disclosure, the show is still chock a block with violence and cusses, if that’s a deal breaker.
 

R.R. Bigman

Coolest Guy
The Shout Factory app has The Last Unicorn, so I watched it. I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a more melancholy animated film. Maybe a lot of that fell comes from the soundtrack, which was done by the band America and is also best part of the movie. I can’t get the main theme out of my head.

I wish animation could be more wistful and subdued again.
 

Tegan

dirtbag lesbian
(She/Her)
Finally got around to watching OK KO: Let's Be Heroes . It's super gay and fun and I adore it. It's obvious to see why it never quite gained the adult fanbase that its contemporaries did, with its extremely weird, silly, and abrasive design (which is exactly why I bounced off of it the first time); but it's totally worth it to stick with it. Only got about two dozen episodes left.

Secret stars include: Red Action, Enid's asshole power ranger burnout girlfriend; Fink, Professor Venomous' minion that he basically treats as his toddler daughter; and The Actual Captain Planet.
 

R.R. Bigman

Coolest Guy
OK KO and Clarence are two shows that I wish had gotten more love. I still don’t get why OK KO did not take off with kids. There could have been so many fun toy ideas, with action figures and accessories. I still want real, physical POW cards.

Clarence was absolutely not what the cartoon watching twenty and thirty somethings wanted to see, but I loved it for it’s willingness to have nearly the entire cast be poor, come from non-traditional family arrangements and be 90’s era gross, which also fits the setting.
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
I wasn’t either and consider this a cruel breach of conduct!

Padget is involved which is everything I needed to know to be exthrizzilated
 

Johnny Unusual

(He/Him)
I appreciate that the rhythm is similar to the old show but tonally it also feels like a show of this era where it seems geared to having positive, likeable leads.
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
Padget doesn’t seem to be quite as energetic as she was in the original, but that only means she’s bringing an 11/10 to the show instead of a 15.

AND SPEAKING OF FEMALE LED SUPERHERO CARTOONS

After hearing Teg and Drowaeyn chatting about it for a couple of days, I decided to watch an episode of Miraculous Ladybug. Which, based on my experience so far, I deem “better than expected”. Shows got a lot of what I liked about Sailor Moon (lots of on-point comedy and Friends Being Pals) and less of what I dislike (action scenes are well choreographed and exciting instead of Stock Footage and Dramatic Posing).

No comment on how many plots are about small businesses run by evil space vampires, but that’s kind of narrowcasting for me.

Also, apparently “Evil-ize” is a verb in this universe and I love that.

The first episode was not an origin, however so I was kind of forced to play catch up with everyone’s weird super powers and character dynamics, but this is a show intended for small kids so I’m sure that’s not too big a hurdle.

The villain looks way more intimidating when he isn’t in his costume.
 

jpfriction

A most radical pontiff
My daughter has watched all of the available ladybug several times through but she did recently start over and I was also surprised to see the first episode not be an origin story. Ladybug’s great gazoo patiently explaining how her magic earings have a time limit at the halfway point must have been enough to get the point across.

I like how bonkers the villains get. Hawkmoth has style.
 

Tegan

dirtbag lesbian
(She/Her)
I'm starting on the second season now. If I were to sit down and watch any given episode of season 1 I'd tell you that it was good but not great, but doing them all in a row really drives home the fact that every episode is exactly the same. And yeah, they do little to explain what the hell is up with everyone's deal until near the end of the first season. Also they really do everything to draw out the most flagrantly obvious reveal that I've seen in a long time (and the one time they throw you a curveball is the same episode where they say it outright so what the fuck).

On the other hand, the love square between the two leads and their superhero identities is delicious.
 

Tegan

dirtbag lesbian
(She/Her)
I've been watching Amphibia Disney Frog Isekai and while it's the definition of "not worth its own thread," I think it's really good. I especially love how dramatically they shook up the structure between seasons: season 1 is all extremely local stuff about getting to know the town and the people in it, and then season 2 completely abandons that and turns into a road trip for a bit, and now it's some kind of grander mystery in a big unfamiliar city.
Hey so this show came back recently and I just got caught upnow that Part 2 is over. So remember this post about how the season shift of this isekai frog show completely changes up everything til that point? The season finale goes even harder on it. Holy shit. Haven't seen enough to know, but has there been an isekai type series where the hero and their Fantasy Friends get trapped in the human world like halfway through and need to go back?
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
Fine I’ll watch Hell Comes to Frogtown: The Cartoon

But regarding your spoiler, both Last Action Hero and Digimon spring to mind
 

Tegan

dirtbag lesbian
(She/Her)
Wasn't it a pretty brief fling for Digimon? This one warranted a whole new OP sequence and everything.
 

MetManMas

Me and My Bestie
(He, him)
Not counting a couple of other times Tai ended up back there, Digimon Adventure spent like 10 to 11 episodes straight in the real world. Considering the average anime arc is about 13 episodes that's a pretty significant amount of time for a reverse isekai arc.

Granted, the show itself was 54 episodes long, but still...
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
So I did watch the first episode, and came to the conclusion, based on that episode, that it’s a little bit of Gravity Falls, and a little bit of Big City Greens, but not as good as either.

But it does have a girl suplexing a giant mantis.
 

Purple

(She/Her)
I really liked that first season* of Rick & Morty during the many high points where it was simultaneously creating high-concept sci-fi stories and also taking the piss out of them, but then somewhere in that second season it started doing less and less of those and instead turned into "bad meme grandpa's always right" and I fell right off.

*except for that godawful ones that just uses aliens to explore "ha ha, women are different from men!"
There's the one episode of that stripe I find I have to defend on the grounds that:
- It is a very explicit Farscape cast reunion and I am an easy mark there.
- At least half the episode is an extended deep-cut Zardoz reference and damn it, having been forced to sit through that movie more than once I have to empathize with any writer who's also been through that hell.
 
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