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The only thing more amusing to me than that amazing trailer is that we should have probably seen this coming?? FF7R being this year, and also Smash has liked to pit a good guy vs a bad guy from a franchise generally. Cloud has needed his adversary for a while. (Liquid Snake/Ocelot/The Boss when)
 

Zef

Find Your Reason
(He/Him)
I'm reeling from the pretend shot of Mario's dead body hanging from his sword. That is epic.

Sephiroth should know better; last time he did that to some mook, the mook overpowered him and threw him into a pool of radioactive sludge.
 

Peklo

Oh! Create!
(they/them, she/her)
Sephiroth is 1) sufficiently hot 2) universally funny in any context for remaining totally committed to his gimmick, so I'm more okay with this turn than the nominal elements in play would suggest. I really just wish the shirtless look had a higher polygon count and model complexity compared to the standard to authentically reflect the shirtless Sephiroth experience.
 

Mogri

Round and round I go
(he)
Staff member
Moderator
Well, I had put Tifa on my list, and I think this is the nail in her coffin. I'd be happy to be wrong, though!
 

Becksworth

Aging Hipster Dragon Dad
It’s not a Fortnite and hopefully we will get a decent selection of Final Fantasy music this go around, so I rate this DLC choice acceptable.
 

Patrick

Magic-User
(He/Him)
Hah, Sephiroth was a great choice. Final Fantasy deserves another character and he's a hilarious meme to boot.
 

SpoonyBard

Threat Rhyme
(He/Him)
I'd love to see more FF7 tracks, and remixes from across the series (hell just add the various remixes FFXIV has) but I am prepared for the Advent Children version of One Winged Angel to be all we get.
 

Zef

Find Your Reason
(He/Him)
I'm interested in stage shenenigans, too. Sephiroth slashes the Midgar stage at one point (which was Odin's thing previously, so maybe now any sufficiently large sword can do it?) and there was the animation of the Highwind climbing out of the Northern Crater stage in a surge of Lifestream. The Crater stage itself seemed fairly standard, so maybe it'll get some fun, unique hazards?
 

Becksworth

Aging Hipster Dragon Dad
I’m also wondering if this mean if any of the remaining DLC will also be circling back on franchises already represented. I could see Dr. Eggman or Wily in their respective hover pods working.
 

Regulus

Sir Knightbot
Sephiroth slashes the Midgar stage at one point (which was Odin's thing previously, so maybe now any sufficiently large sword can do it?)

I'd wager that was just staged for the trailer. Sakurai and co do that kind of thing all the time.
 

Bongo

excused from moderation duty
(he/him)
Staff member
I've scrutinized the gameplay in the trailer and here's what it looks like is going on:
  • Down special: a counter, maybe a reflector to boot. Based off a move in Dissidia.
  • Neutral special: a projectile that travels slowly but explodes in a wide radius on contact.
  • Side special: a projectile which hits opponents with a debuff that makes their own projectiles auto-reflect back at them
  • Up special: some sword swings that you can aim, I assume something like Mii Swordfighter's up special 2, Skyward Slash Dash
  • That means there are no buttons left to make that wing appear, so that's probably his DLC meter. Unclear what it actually does
  • Looks like low ground mobility. Even if they're having him walk slower than normal for dramatic effect, you don't see him running at all in the trailer
  • I would guess good vertical air mobility, including that funky wall pin move
  • It looks like he gets armor on his backward dodge roll, a unique mechanic that will really add to the feeling that you're just no-selling the enemy attacks
  • Giant disjointed hitboxes, but they look pretty slow, especially with high endlag
Conclusion: he's Ike

Edit: or Byleth
 

Destil

DestilG
(he/him)
Staff member
Up special - Scintilla. Traditionally this also has a lot of movement and follow up hits.
Side special - Shadow Flare.
Neutral special - Firaga.

Octaslash, Hell’s Gate, Oblivion and Black Materia are obvious omissions. Maybe Firaja. Likely he gets upgrades with his wing mode/limit break. I also wouldn’t be surprised if both projectiles are on one special somehow (firaga upgrades to shadow flare?) and he has another sword special.
 

Kzinssie

(she/her)
I think it's very likely that big explosion move is something he only gets in One Winged mode, possibly an upgraded Shadow Flare. That or a charged version of it - his animation before he tosses Shadow Flare looks very similar to Robin or Hero's charging animation.
 

Destil

DestilG
(he/him)
Staff member
Traditionally in action games Seph’s moves aren’t quite Ike or Byleth. He has long windups and end lag, but instead of a single hard hit he tends to have big multihit combos that he can’t cancel and lock you into them when the initial hits lands. He also tends to feel a lot more fluid with a lot of innate movement in his attacks.

Here's my best guesses assuming he has a One Winged Angel mode.

Up Special - Scintilla/Hell's Gate. Scintilla has a lot of horizontal movement, allowing him to move past someone he hits while they get slashed multiple times behind him. Hell's Gate has more veridical movement and launches instead.
Side Special - Octaslash/Oblivion. His core multihit for racking up percent. Octaslash lets you mash the button up to 7 more times once it lands. Oblivion includes a lot more launch and spikes in mid-air.
Neutral Special - Firaga/Shadow Flare. Shadow Flare includes the debuff.
Down Special - Barrier/Reflect.
Final Smash - Black Materia/Supernova. High damage, pulls targets in. Supernova hits the whole screen.
 

Kzinssie

(she/her)
He uses Scintilla in One Winged mode, right?

One speculation I've seen is that the move he uses to cut Midgar in half is a (chargeable?) up special, since the animation for it looks like he starts a charging animation and immediately cancels it.
 

Kzinssie

(she/her)
At this point I just want the Geno Mii costume to return so I can move on with my life

Also, Sephiroth's crowd cheer is 100% the "sephiroth, sephiroth" from One-Winged Angel right
 
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