Hard disagree on Castlevania. Arthur feels to me, especially Super GnG Arthur, way more mobile than NES Belmonts (but not Grant).
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Ghosts 'n' Goblins Resurrection: Killing Demons in Your Underwear 2021
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Hard disagree on Castlevania. Arthur feels to me, especially Super GnG Arthur, way more mobile than NES Belmonts (but not Grant).
Okay, this sounds way better than just playing the same levels twice in a row.
Forgot to respond to this before, but yes, please.
And this. Army of Zin especially.
Ideally on everything. Such a shame the original was PS2 only.
The wizard looks like he belongs in Terrytoons, and I love it.
Capcom's press release specifies the lowest difficulty will allow the player to respawn on the spot with infinite lives. But again, according to the website, you won't be able to see the entire game in this mode.
Love this guy in particular. Also happy for Cerberus that it finally has the proper number of heads.
I am very curious to see what he turns me into.
The English site.
The reaction to this game... elsewhere has been frankly embarrassing to witness. Some of the complaints frame Resurrection's use of non-pixel art as some grand betrayal of the series's tenets, and it's really difficult to read that as a sincere estimation of things in context, as while G'nG at large may capture the hearts of its superfans through its aesthetics as well as its play feel, it has not widely been put on a pedestal as an exemplar of the form, until now when it's convenient to slight an unfamiliar expression by contrast (Demon's Crest's aesthetic merits are a separate matter). The last time the series proper even had a chance to shape its worlds through retro purism-friendly means was in dang 1991--thirty years ago (I doubt many picture the WonderSwan game in their mind's eye for their formative idea of the series)! Only circumstances beyond exceptional would facilitate the continuation of the series in that mold today, when artists with those skillsets are no longer available at a whim, and those that are are putting in absurd hours and effort to maintain and elaborate on the visual legacy of their own decades-old material as a sort of last word on the subject, like with Tengo Project's works. A visual redefinition is a necessity for a project like this to even get off the ground.
I also don't know how to navigate the seeming revulsion expressed at the visuals because in my eyes this game is doing what for long years was a dream scenario with games like this in the circles I was entrenched in, in tying aesthetics to theme. Something like Castlevania from the mid-2000s on felt shackled by its own history, constrained by the limitations of budget that left it defined by its own residue more than anything else. The worst of it was seen in games like Portrait of Ruin, because in addition to ill-fitting repurposing of old material and uneven new offerings, the conceptual basis of the game set in brain-motion ideas of wildly differing pocket dimensions expressed in various art disciplines and techniques as the painting-hopping framework might have suggested, if the developers had the means and opportunity to realize such an ambitious vision. Resurrection is taking its series closer to that reality than ever before, through the visual techniques and touchstones that have already been recognized by many, and firmly shaping the game's form to reflect its communicated setting and premise. It's a terrific reimagining of the concept that appears both feasible to execute on and imaginative in ways that mere authentic reproduction could not have achieved.
The reaction to this game... elsewhere has been frankly embarrassing to witness. Some of the complaints frame Resurrection's use of non-pixel art as some grand betrayal of the series's tenets, and it's really difficult to read that as a sincere estimation of things in context, as while G'nG at large may capture the hearts of its superfans through its aesthetics as well as its play feel, it has not widely been put on a pedestal as an exemplar of the form, until now when it's convenient to slight an unfamiliar expression by contrast (Demon's Crest's aesthetic merits are a separate matter). The last time the series proper even had a chance to shape its worlds through retro purism-friendly means was in dang 1991--thirty years ago (I doubt many picture the WonderSwan game in their mind's eye for their formative idea of the series)! Only circumstances beyond exceptional would facilitate the continuation of the series in that mold today, when artists with those skillsets are no longer available at a whim, and those that are are putting in absurd hours and effort to maintain and elaborate on the visual legacy of their own decades-old material as a sort of last word on the subject, like with Tengo Project's works. A visual redefinition is a necessity for a project like this to even get off the ground.
I also don't know how to navigate the seeming revulsion expressed at the visuals because in my eyes this game is doing what for long years was a dream scenario with games like this in the circles I was entrenched in, in tying aesthetics to theme. Something like Castlevania from the mid-2000s on felt shackled by its own history, constrained by the limitations of budget that left it defined by its own residue more than anything else. The worst of it was seen in games like Portrait of Ruin, because in addition to ill-fitting repurposing of old material and uneven new offerings, the conceptual basis of the game set in brain-motion ideas of wildly differing pocket dimensions expressed in various art disciplines and techniques as the painting-hopping framework might have suggested, if the developers had the means and opportunity to realize such an ambitious vision. Resurrection is taking its series closer to that reality than ever before, through the visual techniques and touchstones that have already been recognized by many, and firmly shaping the game's form to reflect its communicated setting and premise. It's a terrific reimagining of the concept that appears both feasible to execute on and imaginative in ways that mere authentic reproduction could not have achieved.
I still love pixel art as an artform and aesthetic, but when I was a kid, I couldn't wait until all videogames looked like... well, Cuphead, basically. Like real cartoons I could play. I love this look for GnG. Honestly, anything that looks better than a 2010 Flash game is generally cool with me.
Kzinssie
(she/her)
I definitely had an initial "ick" reaction to the graphics because there have been so many ugly-ass games with paper-doll graphics, but it grew on me pretty quickly. I definitely don't understand the idea that it needs to be specifically pixel art, the aesthetic of the series has been more down to its "halloween" sort of cartoony horror aesthetic to me than anything about the actual medium of the graphics.
Shout-outs to whomever wrote out the story in couplets.
madhair60
Video games
I'm looking forward to this but I'm a little bit bummed out by how many of the gimmicks seem to be repeated from earlier games.
That said, it's called Resurrection, not Reinvention. And it's hardly the first time, given that most games in this series seem to be refinements or reimaginings of one another.
That said, it's called Resurrection, not Reinvention. And it's hardly the first time, given that most games in this series seem to be refinements or reimaginings of one another.
I agree with you regarding the issues with SotN and Igavanias thereafter.
And I think this new GnG looks fantastic! As you said, it is the realization of the original sprite work; the “jankiness” of how Arthur jumps and moves around in his armour is especially evocative.
That said, I am one of those people who are still bitter about the near-death of 2D animation. Both in games and in film. Especially because CG technology can be used to make 2D animation easier and cheaper to produce (I’m thinking specifically of Tout en haut du monde here).
I’m not posting that to suggest that Resurrection should have done that, but I’m eternally in mourning about hand drawn animation.
Ludendorkk
(he/him)
The problem is that Flash conditioned an entire generation to see marionetted animation styles as "cheap", regardless of how much obvious care or passion went into the project. I'm convinced it's basically Pavlonian, given the takes I've seen.
(Also as an aside I've always considered the discourse about sprite reuse in Igavanias overblown, especially now that Bloodstained turned out to be a hideous eyesore and people pine for such "routine" pixel spritework)
From the ransomware leak we know it's a timed exclusive, it's coming to essentially everything.
(Also as an aside I've always considered the discourse about sprite reuse in Igavanias overblown, especially now that Bloodstained turned out to be a hideous eyesore and people pine for such "routine" pixel spritework)
From the ransomware leak we know it's a timed exclusive, it's coming to essentially everything.
Ludendorkk
(he/him)
I am happy that this game is a thing and when it comes out I will be there. I like this paper doll look a lot more than the 3D look that Ultimate GnG* had going on.
Now put Sir Arthur in Smash please.
* I know it's not exactly beloved, but I hope the PSP game will get a remaster someday. Preferably with an option to play that remix that's more like the classic games only Japan got.
Now put Sir Arthur in Smash please.
* I know it's not exactly beloved, but I hope the PSP game will get a remaster someday. Preferably with an option to play that remix that's more like the classic games only Japan got.
I actually just bought Goku Makaimura Kai in October, but haven't had a chance to play it yet.
Kzinssie
(she/her)
I've been saying this for years! He's wasted on a game as aggressive and combo-heavy as MvC, he needs to be able to flood a whole stage with his bullshit
I'm not saying NOT to put Arthur in Smash, but I am saying that he's super fun in UMvC3.
Why Capcom decided to let some of their best releases die with the PSP, I'll never know.
Ludendorkk
(he/him)
Is the Spiked Ball new or was that in a previous game
It seems to be new, along with the hammer. These aren't in either version of Goku, which has a broader selection of weapons, shields and armours than the previous games, and they don't seem to be inspired by anything in Ghosts'n Demons either, or any of the other recent examples of GnG-worship. The status-effect spells are brand new, too. Between these additions, the bold new art direction and the return to branching paths, it looks like this game has notions, which is a very heartening sign.
(Ed: I guess hammers already featured pretty extensively in Army of Zin!)
(Ed: I guess hammers already featured pretty extensively in Army of Zin!)
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