R.R. Bigman
Coolest Guy
Season 2 of Primal started last week. It continues to be both amazing, and largely ignored online due to not having the aspects Online Cartoon Fans look for in a series.
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Drawing Lots and Lots of Little Pictures- A Cartoon Thread
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I’ll get to it, I’ll get to it. Got too many things in the hopper. Still getting caught up on Tuca and Bertie’s improbable new season and it’s remarkably accurate and chilling depiction of what it’s like to walk in on an alcoholic just after a bender.
That uh, that touched a nerve.
That uh, that touched a nerve.
R.R. Bigman
Coolest Guy
I’m glad some people are still watching Primal. That second episode was a lot to handle.
Bee and Puppycat is coming to Netflix next month, and instead of finally releasing the completed second season, all of which was leaked years ago, they're just remaking the first season. I still have no idea what the fuck happened to this show's release schedule but it looks good at least.
Can't wait for new folks to experience the absolutely bonkers last-episode reveal.
Can't wait for new folks to experience the absolutely bonkers last-episode reveal.
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R.R. Bigman
Coolest Guy
Tonight!
R.R. Bigman
Coolest Guy
I did not expect any of those things to happen on tonight’s Primal.
”You were doing so well for a while” got me pretty good.
”You were doing so well for a while” got me pretty good.
The Red Mist is fucking incredible.
Like.
All the Vikings had to do to be spared was say "just fucking go away." but they couldn't. Because they were slaver sons of bitches who view humans as property. So they pushed a pair of wild animals who kill every single day to survive into a corner.
A pair of wild animals who were both stronger, faster and more dangerous than they could ever hope to be.
There was only one possible outcome from that choice.
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Tonight's Primal was Not what I was expecting.
For a long moment I was like "oh god they're not gonna reveal that the crazy dude THINKS he's spear and that the whole series has been a hallucination by a mental patient, are they?"
But they didn't! And that let me breathe a sigh of relief and enjoy the episode for what it was.
Sprite
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The full animatic of the canceled Tartakovsky Popeye leaked, and I watched it. The dialogue and characterization is pretty bog-standard stuff, about on the level of Hotel Transylvania, but the animation clearly would've been transcendent and it's a tragedy we'll never get to see it. Olive especially would've been fun to watch. I love her design so much, really makes me want more weird-looking female cartoon characters.
Tom Kenny does a great job as Popeye, even if this version of the character is just kind of a generic kids movie protagonist. None of the malapropisms and very little of the wordplay and mumbles that make old Popeye great. Though I guess if you're going to be following a character for 80 minutes you should be able to understand what they say. The movie also has a supernatural explanation for his spinach powers, rather than just being delightful propaganda for eating your greens. Weird.
Olive fares a lot better, and the movie manages to have its cake and eat it too by showing her grow from the cartoon shorts damsel into the comic strip adventurer. She's the best part of the film by far, and I'm just so sad I won't get to see her rubber hose arms flailing everywhere. Aw well.
Tom Kenny does a great job as Popeye, even if this version of the character is just kind of a generic kids movie protagonist. None of the malapropisms and very little of the wordplay and mumbles that make old Popeye great. Though I guess if you're going to be following a character for 80 minutes you should be able to understand what they say. The movie also has a supernatural explanation for his spinach powers, rather than just being delightful propaganda for eating your greens. Weird.
Olive fares a lot better, and the movie manages to have its cake and eat it too by showing her grow from the cartoon shorts damsel into the comic strip adventurer. She's the best part of the film by far, and I'm just so sad I won't get to see her rubber hose arms flailing everywhere. Aw well.
Johnny Unusual
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If you don't like animation, great. Otherwise, I got some bad news...
www.avclub.com
HBO Max takes yet another cruel buzzsaw to its kids programming library
HBO Max has released a new list of shows being pulled from its catalog—including series with whole completed seasons that have yet to air
www.avclub.com
FelixSH
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God, what disgusting behaviour. Even aside from the fact, that we lose out on great shows (I really like Close Enough), what really makes me angry is this assholish disregard of their artists. Sure, who cares if they worked overtime (probably without pay), or generally just tried their hardest to create something? Doesn't matter, just throw it away. Sure, why would you treat you emloyees (or freelancers, whatever it is) with any kind of respect?
At least show the stuff that is already done. What the hell is even the problem there? What idiotic metric am I not seeing, that makes it necessary to only have the very carefullestest of chosen shows be on your streaming service? (With all the spite and sarcasm here, I'm actually curious about this, what kind of metric is used here? Is it just the idea to do away with all the bad animation, so they can look more grown-up, or what?)
Fucking assholes.
At least show the stuff that is already done. What the hell is even the problem there? What idiotic metric am I not seeing, that makes it necessary to only have the very carefullestest of chosen shows be on your streaming service? (With all the spite and sarcasm here, I'm actually curious about this, what kind of metric is used here? Is it just the idea to do away with all the bad animation, so they can look more grown-up, or what?)
Fucking assholes.
This. Animation has been one of TV's biggest saviors during the pandemic, especially for people in the industry who couldn't return to physical production sets, and this is the thanks it gets?
ArugulaZ
Fearful asymmetry
I gotta be honest, I don't understand the purpose of trying to scrub these shows from memory. They're not just removing Mao Mao and Close Enough from HBO Max... they're disavowing all knowledge of their very existence. They're no longer referenced on Cartoon Network's YouTube pages or any of the network's promotional materials. What's the endgame here? You're giving your viewers less content to watch, and I can't imagine that being useful to either Warner Bros Discovery or their customers.
Evidently David Zaslov has been known to brag that he knows what viewers want, but is that really true? Over the years I've seen Discovery channels move away from their mission statements with weaselly new slogans ("History is made every day." Translation: We'll show any damn thing we want and you're just going to have to sit through it!) and beat viewers over the head with marathons of cheap reality shows. Guess what? Nobody wants to see large, hairy men build aquariums, yet that's the kind of crap Discovery has been forcing down their viewers' throats for years.
And now we're getting a senseless purge of cartoons from Cartoon Network. Does anyone remember what happened thirteen years ago when Cartoon Network tried to deviate from its mission statement with cheap live action shows? People hated it, and CN was in a tailspin they only managed to pull themselves out of with the success of Adventure Time. That's a series which inspired and is very much in the same vein as the shows Zaslov is so eager to purge from existence.
You'd think the company that gave us the History Channel would be less inclined to repeat the history of Cartoon Network's past failures, yet here we are. I'm already seeing Zaslov get compared to the arrogant, stubbornly stupid Jamie Kellner, who turned the WB network into a smoking crater twenty years ago, and I have a hard time disputing the comparison.
Evidently David Zaslov has been known to brag that he knows what viewers want, but is that really true? Over the years I've seen Discovery channels move away from their mission statements with weaselly new slogans ("History is made every day." Translation: We'll show any damn thing we want and you're just going to have to sit through it!) and beat viewers over the head with marathons of cheap reality shows. Guess what? Nobody wants to see large, hairy men build aquariums, yet that's the kind of crap Discovery has been forcing down their viewers' throats for years.
And now we're getting a senseless purge of cartoons from Cartoon Network. Does anyone remember what happened thirteen years ago when Cartoon Network tried to deviate from its mission statement with cheap live action shows? People hated it, and CN was in a tailspin they only managed to pull themselves out of with the success of Adventure Time. That's a series which inspired and is very much in the same vein as the shows Zaslov is so eager to purge from existence.
You'd think the company that gave us the History Channel would be less inclined to repeat the history of Cartoon Network's past failures, yet here we are. I'm already seeing Zaslov get compared to the arrogant, stubbornly stupid Jamie Kellner, who turned the WB network into a smoking crater twenty years ago, and I have a hard time disputing the comparison.
The article off-handedly says something about “the pursuit of the biggest tax break.” Is there something about U.S. tax policy that would incentivize this?
I think a lot of it is avoiding paying residuals to the creators. Which is fun.
okay this whole situation sucks but I would absolutely watch a show about large men building aquariums
do you know just how much of my Youtube history is watching some guy do a woodworking project, or restore an old toy car, or build a secret door behind a bookcase or whatever the fuck
FelixSH
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This would be even worse than I thought. Greedy assholes. While it isn't stealing, it kinda feels like it.
ArugulaZ
Fearful asymmetry
Er, I stand corrected. (shrugs)
I wasn't entirely disinterested in PBS Create's woodworking shows, but you know, having people make custom aquariums on Animal Planet feels like a cop-out. Give me nature documentaries, give me informative guides to domesticated cats, give me an Australian dude wrestling with Komodo dragons. Don't give me some guys building custom tanks where fish will eventually reside.
EDIT: Check this out. They are being seriously thorough about blanking out Infinity Train from any and all forms of legal distribution.
Sprite
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I wonder if this is an unfortunate blip in this conglomerate’s history or if we’re entering a dark age of streaming where everyone decides less is more and starts dumping a decade’s worth of original content into the void, not to mention several decades’ worth of legacy content.