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Cyberpunk 2077

Trar

Grilling
(he | him)
They'll probably patch the bugs, but apart from the tone-deaf transphobic stuff, you have to wonder about the wisdom of painstakingly recreating an RPG setting that was originally made in the 1980s, poorly-dated elements included and all. I saw the point made that it's a rather retrograde way of doing cyberpunk, which is usually a more forward-looking genre.

EDIT: Also the Giant Bomb video pretty clearly displays the combat is Fallout 4-style and the writing is nothing special at best, edgelord crap at worst. lol
 
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Tiers in Rain

Gaming Replicant!
There has been a misconception for decades that cyberpunk as a genre is all style and no substance. Style is important to the genre, yes. Devotees to the genre though know that the best cyberpunk is nuanced and thought provoking. CDPR didn't get that memo, I guess. There are hundreds of cheap cyberpunk books you can find on Amazon written by amateur authors who similarly think they can make a living off of writing boring, two-dimensional characters and an uncompelling story as long as they make it sound cool.
 

Tiers in Rain

Gaming Replicant!
Full disclosure, I do like to indulge in some dumb, pulpy cyberpunk from time to time. But there is no excuse for the backwards-thinking ideas involved here.
 

q 3

here to eat fish and erase the universe
(they/them)
pretty realistic if they're self-driving cars
 

MetManMas

Me and My Bestie
(He, him)
At one point, I was excited for this. Like, I wanted to explore a cool big budget sci-fi RPG world that wasn't mostly wildlands and didn't have all the shit blown up in it.

But with the transphobic advertising, the half-assing of the alleged "inclusive" gender options, the seizure-inducing special effects, the frickin' genital sliders, the game's current state as a buggy and shoddy mess that barely runs on a base console, that this is yet another game that has engaged in horrible, horrible crunching practices to get out the door, especially in the year of COVID-19...I'm passing on this.

Fuck Cyberpunk 2077 and fuck CD Projekt Red, I have 2064: Read Only Memories, Cosmic Star Heroine, and Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth on the backlog (and on my phone for ROM) and I still want to buy Final Fantasy VII Remake eventually.
 

Gaer

chat.exe a cessé de fonctionner
Staff member
Moderator
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Kzinssie

(she/her)
I'm actually 100% okay with genital sliders being present, but it is extremely funny that the smallest dick size available is a bit larger than the average adult penis
 

Gaer

chat.exe a cessé de fonctionner
Staff member
Moderator
I'm actually 100% okay with genital sliders being present, but it is extremely funny that the smallest dick size available is a bit larger than the average adult penis
They have dangle physics and I can’t get over that.

Too bad they are openly transphobic etc. as a company.
 

Felicia

Power is fleeting, love is eternal
(She/Her)
Thinking about it, "main character with cybernetic implants in their brain starts seeing tiny trees everywhere" sound like an interesting hook for a cyberpunk story.
 
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Zef

Find Your Reason
(He/Him)

Wait, seriously? Holy shit o__O

Meanwhile:


So my no-prize takeaway here is, if they can patch these issues by February, they probably should have aimed for March release, eliminate crunch, get all their QA and dev work done properly instead of rushing it through a meat grinder, and if the patches do what they claim to do, everyone would have been happy.

But of course they had to ship for "the holiday season" to maximize profits and to raise stock value--even though the former is moot now that they're issuing refunds and the latter actually went the other way around, so hey, at least everyone lost in the end.
 

Destil

DestilG
(he/him)
Staff member
You can’t eliminate crunch by moving dates around, it’s a culture thing that needs to start by actually taking steps to prevent it.
Anyway I believe they were giving employees bonuses based on revenue until the end of the year, so the one week refund proid and then “PS4 and XBO in February, actually” could be pretty underhanded.
 

Destil

DestilG
(he/him)
Staff member
This game was announced in 2012, a year before the PS4 launched, by the way.
 

Mightyblue

aggro table, shmaggro table
(He/Him/His)
they already announced the performance based aspect of the bonuses was now going out to everyone and not just the people who'd earned the shiny badges (yes, really) for crunching themselves half to death
 

Alixsar

The Shogun of Harlem
(He/him)
The tweet today apologizing for the game's performance on old consoles is really just...some wild shit. Like, they clearly decided at some point to focus on building this game for PC/next gen, but for financial reasons decided to keep it PS4/Xbone to squeeze the most money out of it's long dev cycle, and they tried to get away with it in the absolute laziest way possible. Now that people are (rightfully) mad, they're trying to apologize for it and hope that makes it all better. What fuckery is this
 

Juno

The DRKest Roe
(He, Him)
Also they’re placing the onus for dealing with this mess on Sony, Microsoft, and retailers like GameStop instead of fixing it themselves. It’s bullshit.
 
"Hello, retail worker. I know your policy says no returns for opened games, but have you seen this tweet? Oh, that doesn't change anything? I'd like to talk to your manager, please."
 

Kiyone

Workin' real hard to make internet cash.
(She/Her)
The best part of the refund thing is that it lasts for only a week. Hope you're opening your holiday gifts early, suckers!
 
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