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The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Group Watch Thread
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Bruh. You know you can set the forum up to email you when a new thread is created? Why is it our fault that you didn't notice a new thread?
Anyway, we literally just started this party and it's likely to be raging for at least a year. We're one episode in. You're in on the ground floor dude.
Anyway, we literally just started this party and it's likely to be raging for at least a year. We're one episode in. You're in on the ground floor dude.
I was kidding.
However, that sounds like it would flood my inbox. Is there a way to filter that function?
Okay, Rise of the Ninja Turtles Part 2 is a bit more set up; the Utroms are called the Krang, which makes sense as a name and won’t trick my phone into thinking I’m talking about Hank Pyms evil robot son. Also they seem to be much easier to hurt when they’re obviously robots than when they’re Weird Guys.
Got some justification for Splinter being an overprotective dad, since he had his entire family burn to death, prior to turning into a big rat and adopting some anthropomorphic turtle men.
Got a monster of the week boss fight, which I’m sure will be a recurring motif, and way more body horror than I reasonably expected from a children’s cartoon.
Seems to be pushing some nuclear turtle-man/teenage girl romance and… umm… as long as both characters are into it, sure.
Loved Mikey refusing to let go of the fact that the guy named Snake didn’t turn into a lizard monster when he mutated.
Episode ends with Shredder showing up, looking more Mortal Kombatty than usual, and also being played my KMR, who does fit given how much of the show leans on the 87 series, and that he and James Avery have a pretty similar vocal range
Got some justification for Splinter being an overprotective dad, since he had his entire family burn to death, prior to turning into a big rat and adopting some anthropomorphic turtle men.
Got a monster of the week boss fight, which I’m sure will be a recurring motif, and way more body horror than I reasonably expected from a children’s cartoon.
Seems to be pushing some nuclear turtle-man/teenage girl romance and… umm… as long as both characters are into it, sure.
Loved Mikey refusing to let go of the fact that the guy named Snake didn’t turn into a lizard monster when he mutated.
Episode ends with Shredder showing up, looking more Mortal Kombatty than usual, and also being played my KMR, who does fit given how much of the show leans on the 87 series, and that he and James Avery have a pretty similar vocal range
I'm a personal fan of the crazy body horror stuff in this version of TMNT in fact I'd say it was what made me interested in checking it out in the first place (I was reading a lot of Bogleech back then). Snakeweed is a pretty good indicator of where the show wants to go with its character design, especially through the first couple of seasons.
On the VAs in this episode:
Nolan North voices almost all of the Kraang characters. North has apparently been in every video game. I've heard him voicing Penguin in Batman: Arkham Asylum and Brawl in Transformers War For Cybertron. I adore the robotic way the Kraang deliver their lines in this cartoon - some of my most genuine laughs have come from their awkward sentence constructions. What can I say, the one that is known as "grammar" is humorous to Dracula.
Danny Jacobs voices Snake / Snakeweed. Not much to say about this guy except he also voices characters in Batman (in this case, Victor Zsasz). As the show progresses the guest VAs become more notable and exciting.
And as Octo said the immortal Kevin Michael Richardson voices maybe the scariest Shredder in all of TMNT. I agree this feels like a bit of a reference to James Avery's casting as '87 Shredder. Even though that Shredder was a big stupid idiot he still managed to carry a huge force in his performance which is obvious every time someone else stepped in to cover for him in the '87 cartoon. You won't catch '12 Shredder screaming "WHAT IN BLAZES" as he slips on a banana peel, but if he did it'd somehow be threatening instead of funny.
On the VAs in this episode:
Nolan North voices almost all of the Kraang characters. North has apparently been in every video game. I've heard him voicing Penguin in Batman: Arkham Asylum and Brawl in Transformers War For Cybertron. I adore the robotic way the Kraang deliver their lines in this cartoon - some of my most genuine laughs have come from their awkward sentence constructions. What can I say, the one that is known as "grammar" is humorous to Dracula.
Danny Jacobs voices Snake / Snakeweed. Not much to say about this guy except he also voices characters in Batman (in this case, Victor Zsasz). As the show progresses the guest VAs become more notable and exciting.
And as Octo said the immortal Kevin Michael Richardson voices maybe the scariest Shredder in all of TMNT. I agree this feels like a bit of a reference to James Avery's casting as '87 Shredder. Even though that Shredder was a big stupid idiot he still managed to carry a huge force in his performance which is obvious every time someone else stepped in to cover for him in the '87 cartoon. You won't catch '12 Shredder screaming "WHAT IN BLAZES" as he slips on a banana peel, but if he did it'd somehow be threatening instead of funny.
Swapping gears to the 2K3 series with Things Change
For one thing, this was always my favorite series so I’m coming in with existing affection, and there’s definitely some things I like more about this than ‘12 and vice versa.
For one thing, Nicks theme song absolutely whips ass, and this one’s pointedly does not. I get that it was trying to distance itself as much as possible from the 90s cartoon but the theme song is *not* one of the places that needed changing.
On the other hand I much prefer the visuals of this show, even if the upscaling makes it look much rougher than it did then; absolutely my favourite aesthetic the franchise has ever used, and while the VAs were non union, and I can’t say I recognize any of the names in the credits, they do really good work. They sound more like adults than teenagers, but otherwise, No notes.
Plot wise; the two are pretty similar, though Fox manages to cram a lot more incident into one episode than Nick did with two; the Turtles’ ninja training gets interrupted when a bunch of carnivorous robots chew their way into their sewer play set and wreck it enough that them and Splinter get separated and the turtles have to go topside to make it to a rendezvous point while Splinter single-handedly fights an small hoard of Mousers underground.
The Turtles wind up finding and stopping a robbery from the Purple Dragon gang, and then their backup; the Foot Clan Ninja, all the while establishing their personalities pretty succinctly (special props to Raph for selling Constantly On Edge Hothead better than Damn near every other incarnation), and then they all meet up in a brand new Sewer Lair that Splinter found while beating up Mousers, a weird subterranean alien outpost!
And then we close out the episode with Shredder making his first appearance, out of costume (not counting the opening); where he absolutely murders the Purple Dragon who failed him by losing his stolen money; which was pretty intense for a children’s cartoon, even if the death was only implicit and off camera. The show gets less subtle later.
So already we have a good sense of their personalities (even if the Turtles weren’t hard-wired into the brains of everyone born after the year 1980), and a lot plot hooks for serialization.
Two Good Sets of Turtles!
For one thing, this was always my favorite series so I’m coming in with existing affection, and there’s definitely some things I like more about this than ‘12 and vice versa.
For one thing, Nicks theme song absolutely whips ass, and this one’s pointedly does not. I get that it was trying to distance itself as much as possible from the 90s cartoon but the theme song is *not* one of the places that needed changing.
On the other hand I much prefer the visuals of this show, even if the upscaling makes it look much rougher than it did then; absolutely my favourite aesthetic the franchise has ever used, and while the VAs were non union, and I can’t say I recognize any of the names in the credits, they do really good work. They sound more like adults than teenagers, but otherwise, No notes.
Plot wise; the two are pretty similar, though Fox manages to cram a lot more incident into one episode than Nick did with two; the Turtles’ ninja training gets interrupted when a bunch of carnivorous robots chew their way into their sewer play set and wreck it enough that them and Splinter get separated and the turtles have to go topside to make it to a rendezvous point while Splinter single-handedly fights an small hoard of Mousers underground.
The Turtles wind up finding and stopping a robbery from the Purple Dragon gang, and then their backup; the Foot Clan Ninja, all the while establishing their personalities pretty succinctly (special props to Raph for selling Constantly On Edge Hothead better than Damn near every other incarnation), and then they all meet up in a brand new Sewer Lair that Splinter found while beating up Mousers, a weird subterranean alien outpost!
And then we close out the episode with Shredder making his first appearance, out of costume (not counting the opening); where he absolutely murders the Purple Dragon who failed him by losing his stolen money; which was pretty intense for a children’s cartoon, even if the death was only implicit and off camera. The show gets less subtle later.
So already we have a good sense of their personalities (even if the Turtles weren’t hard-wired into the brains of everyone born after the year 1980), and a lot plot hooks for serialization.
Two Good Sets of Turtles!
jpfriction
(He, Him)
Hard agree on the visuals being top tier and the theme song being, well just awful. Wouldn’t be a late 90s/early aughts intro without some bad cgi either. Other than that, this one starts quite strong.
Yep I won't have much to say about the VAs in this one although I will note that April O'Neil is voiced by Veronica Taylor whose cadence will be vaguely nostalgic to nearly everyone who had some of their childhood in the late 90s. This is mainly because she voiced Ash and lots of other incidental characters in the English dub of Pokemon.
Having just recently restarted a watch of 2k3 the series gives me the same good feelings I have when watching other early 2000s action cartoons like Masters of the Universe or Justice League and I'm pretty excited to watch the rest of it.
Having just recently restarted a watch of 2k3 the series gives me the same good feelings I have when watching other early 2000s action cartoons like Masters of the Universe or Justice League and I'm pretty excited to watch the rest of it.
FelixSH
(He/Him)
The '03 episodes were fun, but they feel mundane, compared to the '12 show. Which is pretty weird, considering that what show we are talking about, but it feels slower, I guess? Dunno if these are even fitting words here, point is that I prefer the '12 show, at least for now (but what I saw here was still fun). I haven't read much of the original comics, but I do remember enough to know that this is a pretty close adaptation. And I like that April is a scientist here. Also, these are two good episodes for newcomers to the series, I think.
Anyway, looking forward to more, on both shows.
Anyway, looking forward to more, on both shows.
As the title implies, A Better Mousetrap is all about the Mousers, and more importantly, April and he employee, recurring miniboss, Baxter Stockman.
Who is operating at just the absolute maximum level of smugness, I love him.
Anyway, turns out that Baxter was working alongside the Shredder to build the Mousers, since autonomous robots that can chew through solid steel is helpful for criminal endeavours, and he’s also selling them to the city to deal with the rodent problem in New York. As helpfully depicted by a Mouser mulching up a bunch of live rats on the local news. April learns this because Baxter had a large glowing icon of the Foot Clan that takes up, like, half his computers Home Screen.
Shredder is very concerned about branding.
Anyway, Baxter decides to kill April when she learns he’s a criminal, and she flees into the labs sewer entrance and runs into the turtles who were searching out Baxters lab, since they’re kind of bitter about the Mousers wrecking their house.
Then she sees she’s rescued by a bunch of rowdy nuclear turtle man after her boss tries to kill her with walking bear traps and opts to have a little coma.
Once again, very much serialized story telling at the forefront here, and Baxter is just out the gate being ridiculously smug about everything he does. April comes across as being much more naive than usual, though she’s quick to realize her boss is hiding something and manages to fight a handful of Mousers herself via ingenuity (which doesn’t work long term since, well, they’re carnivorous eating machines).
Also; can’t say with complete certainty, but I don’t think a crop top and jnco jeans are especially lab-safe clothing, especially in a lab that doubles as a factory floor.
Donatello builds a flying car out of garbage. This goes well beyond his usually capacity for Doing Machines.
Who is operating at just the absolute maximum level of smugness, I love him.
Anyway, turns out that Baxter was working alongside the Shredder to build the Mousers, since autonomous robots that can chew through solid steel is helpful for criminal endeavours, and he’s also selling them to the city to deal with the rodent problem in New York. As helpfully depicted by a Mouser mulching up a bunch of live rats on the local news. April learns this because Baxter had a large glowing icon of the Foot Clan that takes up, like, half his computers Home Screen.
Shredder is very concerned about branding.
Anyway, Baxter decides to kill April when she learns he’s a criminal, and she flees into the labs sewer entrance and runs into the turtles who were searching out Baxters lab, since they’re kind of bitter about the Mousers wrecking their house.
Then she sees she’s rescued by a bunch of rowdy nuclear turtle man after her boss tries to kill her with walking bear traps and opts to have a little coma.
Once again, very much serialized story telling at the forefront here, and Baxter is just out the gate being ridiculously smug about everything he does. April comes across as being much more naive than usual, though she’s quick to realize her boss is hiding something and manages to fight a handful of Mousers herself via ingenuity (which doesn’t work long term since, well, they’re carnivorous eating machines).
Also; can’t say with complete certainty, but I don’t think a crop top and jnco jeans are especially lab-safe clothing, especially in a lab that doubles as a factory floor.
Donatello builds a flying car out of garbage. This goes well beyond his usually capacity for Doing Machines.
THAT BEING SAID
Naught throttle it down to two episodes a week, four might be a bit tricky, so next are the Nick episodes
Turtle Temper
New Friend, Old Enemy
Naught throttle it down to two episodes a week, four might be a bit tricky, so next are the Nick episodes
Turtle Temper
New Friend, Old Enemy
Even if it’s largely off screen, it’s kind of surprising how violent this cartoon is; especially by the standards of early aughts children’s cartoons; there was some pretty imitable turtle-on-human violence in the first episode, Shredder definitely murders the guy who failed him and this episode had Mousers turning some rats into rat sauce.
Also, armed with future knowledge, there’s Baxters entire character arc through the series
Also, armed with future knowledge, there’s Baxters entire character arc through the series
These two items are related. The early aughts did have S&P to deal with, but it seemed like the people making cartoons also had a premeditated goal of not recreating the "goofy violence" of Super Friends (Justice League), He-Man, or Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. It wasn't quite as stark as the grimdark age of comics, but the named series here definitely wanted to make their villains menacing threats (as opposed to, essentially, Team Rocket), and violence was often the answer there. This leveled off to a happy medium eventually (which, amusingly enough, can be mapped with the various TMNT franchises), but the early aughts was definitely "this ain't your daddy's saturday morning cartoon".
(And, to be clear, I love all those early 2000 series. I just rewatched X-Men Evolution, and it has some great things to say about racism and an original character that is just straight up shooting flaming hot pokers at high school students. And he's the good guy!)
(... And I will never not be amused by the He-Man reboot mining pathos out of a character named Buzz-Off.)
jpfriction
(He, Him)
You beat me to the comment on April’s science crop top. Great minds and all that.
I like how big of a smug dick Baxter is.
I like how big of a smug dick Baxter is.
That's a fact, Jack!
Definitely - and I agree this era of cartoons holds up a lot better than Edgy 90s Era comics. Something that stuck out to me a bit while rewatching these first couple 2k3 episodes is that Raph is quick to bonk Mike on the head when it feels like he's about to slip too far into an 80s Mike Moment, which might be the writers thumbing their noses a bit at the older cartoon. Which, honestly, fair enough. It doesn't feel too mean-spirited, though.
You see this nose-thumbing crop up in some of the other examples mentioned too, like the time in Justice League where someone gets tossed through a statue of the Wonder Twins. (To say nothing of the Ultimen plotline from later in the series.)
Anyway, I just finished the last season of Nick TMNT yesterday, so I'll be picking up 2k3 in its place. Looking forward to this watch-along!
As I inferred from the title, Turtle Temper was a pretty light and goofy filler episode about Raphael repeatedly screwing up because of his short temper. This leads first to the Turtles inadvertently getting caught on camera by Lewis Black, and later to the team completely failing to keep Lewis Black from selling the footage to the Krang. Then Splinter reminds him that responding badly to taunts is what got his entire family burned to death by The Shredder, so maybe take it down a notch, eh?
Then Lewis Black gets mutated into a giant poison-spewing spider-monster, which feels a bit on the nose; don’t know what he’s complaining about really; he was a weirdly adorable giant poison spewing monster and a gross shlubby dude. And objective trade up even if he didn’t get super powers.
New Friends, Old Enemies is much more plot forward but also just as much of a character focus episode; Mikey is feeling put out because his only friends are his direct relatives and the human girl who owes him her life, and decides to hit up Clancy Brown (who is definitely not a thinly veiled Chuck Norris) after getting a Facebook friend request.
And this winds up being the right decision as Clancy Brown is an assassin sent to New York by Shredder, whose learned that Splinter is apparently still alive, and training new ninjas, and he wants that problem nipped in the bud immediately. And Mikey is characteristically slow on the uptake that his new buddy is definitely evil and trying to pry information out of him until Splinter sees him practicing the martial arts techniques Clancy Brown was using.
So the Turtles fight him, and his co-henchman Xever (they both get name dropped, and have some history together so I’ll assume they’re this shows Rocksteady and Bebop), and win but Splinter is still pretty freaked out because Shredder is a much more credible threat than the silly alien robots who talk like Mojo Jojo.
Then Lewis Black gets mutated into a giant poison-spewing spider-monster, which feels a bit on the nose; don’t know what he’s complaining about really; he was a weirdly adorable giant poison spewing monster and a gross shlubby dude. And objective trade up even if he didn’t get super powers.
New Friends, Old Enemies is much more plot forward but also just as much of a character focus episode; Mikey is feeling put out because his only friends are his direct relatives and the human girl who owes him her life, and decides to hit up Clancy Brown (who is definitely not a thinly veiled Chuck Norris) after getting a Facebook friend request.
And this winds up being the right decision as Clancy Brown is an assassin sent to New York by Shredder, whose learned that Splinter is apparently still alive, and training new ninjas, and he wants that problem nipped in the bud immediately. And Mikey is characteristically slow on the uptake that his new buddy is definitely evil and trying to pry information out of him until Splinter sees him practicing the martial arts techniques Clancy Brown was using.
So the Turtles fight him, and his co-henchman Xever (they both get name dropped, and have some history together so I’ll assume they’re this shows Rocksteady and Bebop), and win but Splinter is still pretty freaked out because Shredder is a much more credible threat than the silly alien robots who talk like Mojo Jojo.
So next week are the Fox episodes;
Attack of the Mousers
Enter Casey Jones
Ooooh, I bet we’re going to learn what a crumpet is
Attack of the Mousers
Enter Casey Jones
Ooooh, I bet we’re going to learn what a crumpet is
I really like Bradford and Xever as early mid-level threats in this show. They get some good play out of Bradford's dollar bin Chuck Norris as you'll see.
Christian Lanz voices Xever. I didn't know much about this fella, but he's done tons of voice work in video games and TV. A pretty sick fact I just learned about him is he learned English by watching Frank Welker's performance as Fred in the original Scooby-Doo series, then eventually worked alongside Welker in later versions of Scooby-Doo.
Christian Lanz voices Xever. I didn't know much about this fella, but he's done tons of voice work in video games and TV. A pretty sick fact I just learned about him is he learned English by watching Frank Welker's performance as Fred in the original Scooby-Doo series, then eventually worked alongside Welker in later versions of Scooby-Doo.
Attack of the Mousers was, besides a continuation of the last episode, also our origin story episode (albeit truncated). They’re sticking with the Splinter is a Rat who is Smart instead of A Guy Who Became a Rat origin. This is already a series about Turtles who are mutant teenage ninjas, so that shouldn’t be the hard to swallow part, but here we are.
anyway, April fainted when she saw the turtles at the end of the last episode, and she… proceeds to faint several more times when the turtles and splinter introduce themselves to her, until she eventually realizes that statistically speaking, she wouldn’t be having the same dream repeatedly, so perhaps the world is just weird, and she comes to accept that New Yorks sewers have some mutants martial artists. And she explains why she was attacked by murderous robots last episode.
Furthermore, Baxter Stockman has been using Mousers to rob banks, which is pretty brazen considering how he was advertising them on tv, like… one day again. But Baxter does not have a shortage of hubris.
The turtles put together the obvious connection between Baxter and the Mousers (which they already knew) coupled with knowing that he also tried to mulch up their new friend and his connection to the mysterious ninja clan that attacked them in the first episode (this is new information) and with Aprils help they try infiltrating the lab again, and do a much better job of it this time; demolishing the factory floor and confronting Baxter, who manages to escape after he activates all his Mousers to converge on the Turtles and kill them. April and Donny work together to hack the Mousers before they can eat everyone, and in so doing also blow up the lab, and Baxter flees and winds up running into the other major miniboss of the series, Hun, who brings Baxter to their employer Shredder, who has had about Enough of Baxters lip, and also ain’t happy that the lab that Shredder funded got exploded and decides to get repayment by hacking out Baxters entire eyeball.
which is another recurring motif of this series.
anyway, April fainted when she saw the turtles at the end of the last episode, and she… proceeds to faint several more times when the turtles and splinter introduce themselves to her, until she eventually realizes that statistically speaking, she wouldn’t be having the same dream repeatedly, so perhaps the world is just weird, and she comes to accept that New Yorks sewers have some mutants martial artists. And she explains why she was attacked by murderous robots last episode.
Furthermore, Baxter Stockman has been using Mousers to rob banks, which is pretty brazen considering how he was advertising them on tv, like… one day again. But Baxter does not have a shortage of hubris.
The turtles put together the obvious connection between Baxter and the Mousers (which they already knew) coupled with knowing that he also tried to mulch up their new friend and his connection to the mysterious ninja clan that attacked them in the first episode (this is new information) and with Aprils help they try infiltrating the lab again, and do a much better job of it this time; demolishing the factory floor and confronting Baxter, who manages to escape after he activates all his Mousers to converge on the Turtles and kill them. April and Donny work together to hack the Mousers before they can eat everyone, and in so doing also blow up the lab, and Baxter flees and winds up running into the other major miniboss of the series, Hun, who brings Baxter to their employer Shredder, who has had about Enough of Baxters lip, and also ain’t happy that the lab that Shredder funded got exploded and decides to get repayment by hacking out Baxters entire eyeball.
which is another recurring motif of this series.
“Eating the contents of Banks” is roughly on that same wavelength.
Did Comic Baxter also grind up live rats on live TV as well?
Did Comic Baxter also grind up live rats on live TV as well?
I like how the 2k3 show rearranges the Mirage comics stories for more effective pacing. Mirage was very much a "seat of the pants" type of comic at the beginning with the creators having no idea they would continue their standalone story about some turtle ninjas getting revenge. So the 2k3 story plays it slow with Shredder, setting him up as a credible threat before he even puts on the armor.
So it's smart that they set up Baxter as the early threat and connect him to Shredder's operation. The 80s cartoon actually did that too, but Baxter was kind of a nitwit there and was eventually banished to monster-of-the-week territory.
Also it's fun to watch the turtles cut up a bunch of robots in 2k3 and let the show flex its animation budget. I love how those fight scenes look even if the turtles maybe twirl their weapons a little too much.
So it's smart that they set up Baxter as the early threat and connect him to Shredder's operation. The 80s cartoon actually did that too, but Baxter was kind of a nitwit there and was eventually banished to monster-of-the-week territory.
Also it's fun to watch the turtles cut up a bunch of robots in 2k3 and let the show flex its animation budget. I love how those fight scenes look even if the turtles maybe twirl their weapons a little too much.
jpfriction
(He, Him)
Just constantly twirling.
To be fair, I probably would too.
To be fair, I probably would too.
NGL; I don’t know what you’re supposed to do with a nunchuck except twirl it.
I love that Leonardo discovers that Mousers are vulnerable to being decapitated and Mikey points out that he’s the only one with a weapon where that’s helpful information.
I love that Leonardo discovers that Mousers are vulnerable to being decapitated and Mikey points out that he’s the only one with a weapon where that’s helpful information.
Surprisingly, Enter Casey Jones was the introduction of everyones favorite hockey mask wearing vigilante violence machine.
….who could reasonably be expected to show up in a children’s cartoon, at least.
Raph was getting a bit overly tilted at his brothers during a sparring match and almost kills Mikey with a pipe, which lead him to leaving to cool off and running into some Purple Dragons attacking a woman… and is only stopped from beating them senseless by the appearance of Casey Jones, who offers them substantially more violence in exchange. Raph stops him from strait up murdering them which means they come to blows themselves, in a fight that ends in a draw, and Casey demands a rematch in a few days.
Raph realizes that being the the path of the raging hothead might have some drawbacks to his personal life after seeing what a fighting machine Casey is and apologizes to his brothers… who then agree to help him prepare for his rematch against Casey, because He didn’t learn his lesson that well.
Luckily showing up for the rematch was just a pretext to trying to give Casey some percussive therapy to try to ease him down from his path of becoming straight up The Punisher, and Casey explains that his family home (and possibly his family?) was burned down by the Dragons, and what’s implied to be a young Hun, and he’s had a bit of a grudge since then and his spent his life turning his body into a Purple Dragon Killing Machine, and explaining this means that Raph and Casey immediately become best friends, which is good because a heap of Purple Dragons choose that minute to attack because they’re getting annoyed at how many of their number Casey brutalized previously. Unsurprisingly, the good guys win, since it’s episode 4 and they're nuclear turtle men fighting the equivalent of the Baseball furies.
Oh, and as the culmination of a B lot of Mikey insisting Donny rebuild that Armored car they stole into a heavily Armoured combat van, he also winds up finding a weird alien chamber in their lair that acts as an elevator that leads to an abandoned warehouse. Which even the radioactive ninja turtle men think is really weird.
All in all a good episode, the shw can’t show actual violent impact against humans, but that does nothing to make the fight scenes really well animated, we get an Akita slide when Raph is chasing Casey on a motorcycle, and the humour lands really well; particularly from Mikey. Casey also manages to land Violence Himbo pretty well
….who could reasonably be expected to show up in a children’s cartoon, at least.
Raph was getting a bit overly tilted at his brothers during a sparring match and almost kills Mikey with a pipe, which lead him to leaving to cool off and running into some Purple Dragons attacking a woman… and is only stopped from beating them senseless by the appearance of Casey Jones, who offers them substantially more violence in exchange. Raph stops him from strait up murdering them which means they come to blows themselves, in a fight that ends in a draw, and Casey demands a rematch in a few days.
Raph realizes that being the the path of the raging hothead might have some drawbacks to his personal life after seeing what a fighting machine Casey is and apologizes to his brothers… who then agree to help him prepare for his rematch against Casey, because He didn’t learn his lesson that well.
Luckily showing up for the rematch was just a pretext to trying to give Casey some percussive therapy to try to ease him down from his path of becoming straight up The Punisher, and Casey explains that his family home (and possibly his family?) was burned down by the Dragons, and what’s implied to be a young Hun, and he’s had a bit of a grudge since then and his spent his life turning his body into a Purple Dragon Killing Machine, and explaining this means that Raph and Casey immediately become best friends, which is good because a heap of Purple Dragons choose that minute to attack because they’re getting annoyed at how many of their number Casey brutalized previously. Unsurprisingly, the good guys win, since it’s episode 4 and they're nuclear turtle men fighting the equivalent of the Baseball furies.
Oh, and as the culmination of a B lot of Mikey insisting Donny rebuild that Armored car they stole into a heavily Armoured combat van, he also winds up finding a weird alien chamber in their lair that acts as an elevator that leads to an abandoned warehouse. Which even the radioactive ninja turtle men think is really weird.
All in all a good episode, the shw can’t show actual violent impact against humans, but that does nothing to make the fight scenes really well animated, we get an Akita slide when Raph is chasing Casey on a motorcycle, and the humour lands really well; particularly from Mikey. Casey also manages to land Violence Himbo pretty well