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The Slayers Group Watch Thread

SpoonyBard

A Bard Named SPOONY
(He/Him)
Oh right, I was thinking within the first season.

Gourry is a goof and mostly a dweebus but he does have a couple badass moments in the season.
 

jpfriction

A most radical pontiff
I can’t promise I going to chase other seasons onto non-hulu but this is a pretty fun show, thanks for making me aware of it.
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
Oh right, I was thinking within the first season.

Gourry is a goof and mostly a dweebus but he does have a couple badass moments in the season.

Im kind of drawing a blank for the rest of season 1 for any other contenders;

Maybe Zangulus as he aspires to aloof badass and can not stick the landing
 

SpoonyBard

A Bard Named SPOONY
(He/Him)
I'm going to be a maverick and watch the next two episodes tonight instead of tomorrow (but I'll hold off on posting until then, I'm a maverick but I'm not rude)
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
Well now you can, as this week we can watch

ESCAPE! Noonsa the Flaming Fishman
FOCUS! Reno is the Real Enemy


Normally I complain when an anime spoils the plot with an episode title, but really, nobody should have been on the fence about Rezo at this point
 

Purple

(She/Her)
FOCUS! Reno is the Real Enemy
Gambling is, indeed, a very serious problem we need to do more about.

So anyway, I find people seem to be extremely polarized on the whole "fishman" thing in this episode (and SEVERAL more to come). I know when I first watched this series I thought it was absolutely the funniest thing I'd ever seen, and... honestly the buildup means it still works pretty well, but there's been some desensitization to the whole notion from other people running with the same basic joke since... and oh damn here he is just kinda sliding forward and, yeah, this still works for me.

Otherwise, both of these episodes kinda combine into a great big exposition dump getting into the backstory of our main villain of the season, and our played-off-as-a-minor-villain-but-no-he's-filling-the-#3-party-slot-for-the-remaining-100-episodes. I do kinda think Zelgadis is one of those characters where all the angst is kind of unearned because his big horrible curse is really just kind of having awesome superpowers with no real downside, but it's not high fantasy without one of those in the mix. Meanwhile I really do love Rezo's whole deal because yeah he's a proper arch villain but his motivation for being such really is just the absolute pettiest most selfish reason. Especially since not being able to see seems to be an issue he's more than plenty well adapted to, to the point where if he just dropped the whole obsession he'd just be like the coolest most popular guy in the world, but, nope.

Also it is a striking point of future consistency that, I swear, in episode 6 here we see about half of the entire list of Shaman spells you are ever going to see anyone use for the rest of the entire run of the series. Lina meanwhile is still busting out one-offs, but at least they're very established traditional D&D wizard staples.
 

SpoonyBard

A Bard Named SPOONY
(He/Him)
ESCAPE: Oh god, Noonsa. I somehow forgot about the race of Fishmen in The Slayers. The way he's used to, uh, threaten Lina is still a laugh. It walks right up to the line of sexual harrassment, but it's all so ridiculous to really take seriously and Lina's performance ultimately sells it as a goof. (though this is an area where I think Hayashibara is absolutely better with the delivery than Oritz) The underwater battle with Noonsa is an absolute farce, but an entertaining one. And like all the best farces in The Slayers it's paired with this music.

Lina gradually bonding with Zel is mostly believable (she takes to him maybe a touch too fast after the whole kidnapping and 'torturing' thing) but he's lucky Lina was already pretty sus of Rezo. Speaking of

FOCUS: Thankfully the show gets this worst-kept secret out of the way rather fast. I always liked the rather haunting wind-pipe melody that usually accompanies baddie Rezo, just in case you were still on the fence regarding his intentions.

Purple's kind of right about Rezo's motivations, it is extremely petty, and at no point do we ever see him even inconvenienced by his blindness. There's likely some explanation behind it in that Shabby-Dabby Do is influencing him but at the moment he just comes off totally petty.

These two episodes also really underline just how big a dope Gourry is. He's only known Lina a few days but he seems totally lost without her. How on earth did he even survive before they met?
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
I love how proud Gourry is when he realizes Linas been kidnapped, and the implication that it took a day or two for him to reach that conclusion.

And then another moment or two after that to realize she probably doesn’t want to have been captured by Zel.

I love the entire Fishpeople race and would die for them.
 

John

(he/him)
Escape: This is the first episode where I've really noticed cut & paste animation from earlier episodes. At least 3 minutes of the runtime was from the last episode, and the new scenes had a fair amount of repetition as well. It's not horrible, just was noticeable. I just wanted to get to the fireworks factory!

The Fishman reminded me of the catfish tribe in the Award Winning Final Fantasy XIV, playable on a computer near you! The humanoid floppy arms were weird, but at least his spine attack almost made some sense, in a JRPG sort of way.

I like that Zelgadis has some tragic backstory behind his stony exterior. Gives him some character, moreso than mummy man and wolf man's generic Minions With Names roles.
 

Purple

(She/Her)
These two episodes also really underline just how big a dope Gourry is. He's only known Lina a few days but he seems totally lost without her. How on earth did he even survive before they met?
I just kind of have to assume Gourry's entire left has been spent with a series of random concerned people finding him wandering around and making sure that he gets regular access to food, water, and bandits. Presumably the day he met Lina there was some random shop owner he was supposed to report back to about roughing people up in exchange for food and shelter, and I would say it's actually a bit tragic to consider that they just basically lost their human-shaped puppy that day, but, also that whole town got Dragon Slaved, so, I guess everything worked out.
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
That’s basically how I assumed he lead his life up until that moment.

When you live in a magical fantasy world, you’re always going to need a himbo with a sword on hand
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
Focus is largely an expo dump, but it’s the kind of expo dump that reveals that nobody really has a good reason to be doing what they’re doing. As noted, it’s kind of implied that Rezo is manipulated by Shabbydingo, but I don’t know if that’s ever been confirmed in text or not. Either way, Zels beef with being turned into a cool looking rock man is a bit harder to accept, but at least it becomes a running joke that everyone Forgets he’s unhappy about that.

Also, just doing the math in my head, but Rezo being Zels grandfather and great-grandfather has some… icky implictations.

Goodbye, Noonsa; you were too beautiful for this fallen world
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
I also like that Zolfs idea of torture is just a bunch of rapid-fire insults that don’t even have a chance to register, and pointing out that his fellow henchman, Dilgear, does possess sharp teeth.

I’m assuming Zel had a fixed budget when he was assembling his team
 

John

(he/him)
I liked Focus, even if it was an infodump. The info was at least interesting, and the fight between Zel and Dil/Trolls was entertaining. I was expecting Gourry to come out of nowhere and help in the fight, and it was nice that they didn't resort to that trope, though I felt they did tease it at least once. I do hope they go across a bridge somewhere and fight more interesting enemies, maybe some magidrakees or skeletons.
 

Egarwaen

(He/Him)
Escape was a silly nonsense episode, but after going from our initial nonsense episode straight into three episodes of escalating plot tension, that works pretty well. I think Lina trusts Zel in part because she's already getting some notion that maybe he's not as in charge of this group of hooligans as she's been led to believe, and in part because she's just buying time until she's at full power again, at which point she's confident she can blast, barbecue, or bluster her way out of whatever situation she's still in.

Focus is a really good episode. It immediately shuffles the opening intrigues off-stage and sets up honestly more petty stakes. Rezo's not trying to wake up Shabbydabby, he's trying to heal his eyes after multiple lifetimes of bitterness over being able to do for others what he cannot do for himself. My memory is that that's a running theme of Slayers - sooner or later, everyone's agenda comes down to petty, ordinary shit. Zel does some clever tricks to get himself and Lina away from an enemy that's got them both outclassed, show's that he's only been using a fraction of his power so far, and then has a pretty sweet fight with Dilgear.

Also Dilgear is way funnier than I remembered him being. Even his concept is hilarious. He's not a werewolf, he's a half-wolfman, half-troll? That's just plain funny.

So far, while Slayers doesn't seem to be a budget production, it also doesn't feel like it's precisely rolling in cash. And despite that - and the footage reuse other posters have highlighted - its very, very carefully and deliberately framed. Even stock footage action shots typically feature dynamic angles and are composed to highlight differences in fighting style and personality. Even gag scenes, like the possessed shopkeeper bit, incorporate the environment into the action. And the cloud passing in front of the moon during the reveal scene with Rezo was a wonderful, subtle touch.
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
One of the things I love about Slayers, and it’s something I honestly don’t think I’ve ever seen replicated in any other story, is that (light, series-wide spoilers) nearly every single storyline in the whole franchise is just dealing with the fallout of this one; every consequent villain is either bitter about Rezos death and wants to target Lina because of it, or is exploiting the power vacuum left by Shabranigdos destruction, or else is about Lina refusing to use the same techniques she used to defeat Shabby a second time. There’s no escalation of threats, or even any other enemies on the same level (until the very end), Sha-na-na is as big as enemies get.

And my only real gripe with Try is that it doesn’t adhere to that and just has another evil monster god (who admittedly looks way cooler) who has no real connection to anything.
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