• Welcome to Talking Time's third iteration! If you would like to register for an account, or have already registered but have not yet been confirmed, please read the following:

    1. The CAPTCHA key's answer is "Percy"
    2. Once you've completed the registration process please email us from the email you used for registration at percyreghelper@gmail.com and include the username you used for registration

    Once you have completed these steps, Moderation Staff will be able to get your account approved.

  • TT staff acknowledge that there is a backlog of new accounts that await confirmation.

    Unfortunately, we are putting new registrations on hold for a short time.

    We do not expect this delay to extend beyond the first of November 2020, and we ask you for your patience in this matter.

    ~TT Moderation Staff

The Slayers Group Watch Thread

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
The Dub also has some lines where I'm honestly not sure if they were mistakes that nobody went back to correct, the actresses having fun, or just ADR goofiness; in the first attack in the cold open, the girl in the shower is singing to herself, which is mostly pretty generic "lalala" singing. And then she sings out the line "Here I am, singing in the shower"

And later one of the head nurses is conspiring with her friend, and the friend mentions she forgot what the other characters name is
 

SpoonyBard

A Bard Named SPOONY
(He/Him)
ENERGY: Good episode, feels like a bit of a course correction after last week's pair. It wouldn't be a 90s anime without a mysterious evil do-er watching our heroes on some shockingly convenient cameras. His goal was a bit unclear, though. He mentioned wanting to see if the Lost Ship would help them, but while doing so he restrains the Swordbreaker so it can't, and he never seems that shocked when Canal is helping them before all that. Might be a mistranslation?

FTL: Honestly wasn't feeling this one at the start. The sheer incompetence and ineptitude of the nurses and faculty at SPACE NURSE SCHOOL was distracting, until it became obvious that we're meant to think that everyone is just really bad at what they're doing. Literally the only thing these nurses are good at is attempted murder via improvised explosive.

I appreciate that Kain completely half-asses his woman disguise and he is never ever called on it. The episode ends with the school STILL thinking he's a woman despite him doing absolutely nothing to aid in that deception besides a headband and a skirt. Biggest gripe about the whole set up is this is not the Q episode! There was a pattern going, guys, come on!
 
Last edited:

Egarwaen

(He/Him)
In keeping with the interpretation of Slayers as a transcription of a tabletop RPG campaign, Lost Universe is clearly the result of Zelgadis’ player volunteering to run a one-shot for a break when their regular GM can’t make it. Then it turns into a campaign.

Energy appears to feature the realization that we need some actual villains here, though we’re still not sure what they want beyond contrived situations. We get to see Kain’s power applied to Swordbreaker too, which explains why Canal puts up with him. A bunch of good gags, a bunch of good action, and the main characters have to escape before their erstwhile employers realize what they’ve done.

FTL makes no sense, but everyone involved knows it makes no sense so whatever. The mandatory “oh that’s what the writer is in to” is Bondage Millie. Instead of casually offensive cross dressing gags we get casually offensive fat hologram gags. It’s a late 90s anime filler episode.
 

John

(he/him)
ENERGY: I think this episode's opening was the first without stopgap animation. It was fine, still a lot of slow panning over static shots, but there's more actual animation now.

Not much to say that hasn't already been said. It's very reminiscent of Slayers coming into a town in search of cash, destroying it, and then skedaddling when the bill is due. I don't exactly know why they had to blow up the satellite after the force field was shattered. Canal could've just moved them 100 feet to the right to get out of the way, and then swung down to pick up Millie.

Oh, and the Star of David got reused again as part of the ship's psychic energy weapon, so it's probably just signifying the Lost Ships. Maybe that one merchant was just really into the lore, and wore the pendant to strike up conversation.
 

John

(he/him)
FTL: The nurse's ship in general was a weird design. The front looked like a Jumping Flash! robot, and the back was just a boring container ship. I wish the nurse's logo would've switched to the Wu-Tang logo that was on some of the supply boxes, instead of the generic red cross. I hope those boxes were filled with neck collars, in line with the NIN nail gun boxes in Quake.

I appreciate that Kain completely half-asses his woman disguise and he is never ever called on it. The episode ends with the school STILL thinking he's a woman despite him doing absolutely nothing to aid in that deception besides a headband and a skirt. Biggest gripe about the whole set up is this is not the Q episode! There was a pattern going, guys, come on!
I was pretty sure the school was in on the gag, and was playing along. The one rival queen insinuated that she knew the score, and enjoyed teasing Francois.

Aside from the shitty fat jokes, I agree with Purple that they at least went a different direction than Man infiltrating Sexy Nurse College. I don't know what spray painting "Bitch" onto someone's forehead was supposed to do, but it was a little shocking! Maybe it's future spray paint that automatically adjusts to a target, but to get that level of control you'd have to hold their head still for a while.
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
There’s also the implication in the cold open that the head nurse doesn’t know how to cure spray paint on someone’s face.

Which, honestly… wouldn’t be that surprising given everything else in the episode
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
The next two episodes are Out of this World!

Knight Checks
Nina Corners


I… don’t know what that second one means but I feel like Gravity Wells and Horsehead Nebula describe them well!
 

Egarwaen

(He/Him)
These are both excellent episodes. Gravity Wells adopts the ever-popular anime space western style for an episode, but has a bunch of plot reveals (hmmm nightmare you say…), a pretty solid dramatic backbone, and also has some fun with Canal. The action is kinda ehh apart from that, but it’s pretty enough.

Nina Corners is back to gag filler but at least it’s funny gag filler? The guys who take funny costumes very seriously trope is back, we mock air travel a bit, we have some more fun with Canal, Canal has some fun with Nina, we mock Kane’s cape, nothing much happens.
 

Egarwaen

(He/Him)
Oh I meant to add - Nina Corners had some really weird scenes that were uniformly super crisp and bright. So I'm not sure we're entirely clear of the production issues yet?
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
Real stark improvement with these two, and theres finally an Actual OP sequence, as opposed to tracking shots, darkness, and apologies for the OP sucking! And it looks real good too! Not as good as Next, but good!

Gravity finally got some Plot Advancement beyond “Some jerk wants Swordbreaker”, and a main villain in Nightmare (which was definitely mentioned in at least one earlier episode, but this is the first time they’ve shown up). you’d think that a Wizard Mafia that conquered half the galaxy would have been a bit more prominent. But they know that Some Old Guy dug up blueprints for a Lost Ship, and they apparently put all their eggs in chasing that basket. It’s also a Canal heavy episode so she gets to do stuff besides complain about Millys general presence. Also it’s implied that either Canal knew these old guys or else Kains grandma did, but no names are dropped so MAYBE BOTH?!?

Horsehead is another jokey filler episode, and it taught us the important lesson that Rails secretary is named Nina. I don’t know if she was named before this? It’s a light in content but Nina’s a fun character when divorced of her role of Clumsy Secretary. Turns out that Rail is a stabilizing force in her life as she’s VASTLY less capable when put into a non-secretarial role. Also I guess the Space Cops are just desperately desperately underfunded to the extent that The Bosses Secretary was all they could spare to escort a valuable Good Will ambassador. This is the future that Liberals Want. Loved the opening gag that Nina jumps dramatically through a closed window because she didn’t see the door.

We really got to start making a list of planet and character names for this show; they’re bonkers and delightful; these two alone gave us
Mr. Lozenge
Chicken Earth
Blanko Magma
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
Gravity also had the most overt Slayers reference yet, though it’d only be something picked up by true doom murderheads; the symbol that appears every time someone magically mind-whacked a Nightmare goon was Dark Stars emblem
 

Purple

(She/Her)
Gravity- OK I understand metaphors and all but WOW KANE, YOU REALLY SUCK AT CHESS! Also I appreciate the escalation of "I'm gonna use my sexy charms to get info out of all the guys in town. And also all the girls in town. And also this police computer. And it's not just me right? People were aware that there's a movie called Searching for Bobby Fischer and it involves chess and that's basically it?

Horsehead- OK my subs all say Worries, not Corners. Anyway, WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH AIRLINE FOOD? "I prefer penguins." Reference gotten. Also it's nice to basically have original recipe Amelia here. And to a lesser extent, original recipe Phil. Just needs to shout Stewardess Crush or something.
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
I have to get episode titles off Wikipedia, so I’m going to hold ol’ Jimmy accountable for “Corners”
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
Our next two episodes are really out of this world. It’s

The Bathroom Disappears
Vagrants Decision


Lets call them Interstellar and Jump Drive
 

Egarwaen

(He/Him)
Interstellar: we start with a slow, melancholic look at the end of Kane's grandmother's life, and the demolition of his youthful confidence in not only his own immortality but also the immortality of those he loves. (Canal is actually immortal, but that's neither here nor there) Primed by this to expect a serious, possibly even tragic, episode we instead get... An ancient superweapon triggers itself inside the Swordbreaker, resulting in Kane and Millie spending the entire episode in a mad scramble to attempt to reach the ship's only bathroom, as apparently Canal finds the entire idea of bathrooms repulsive and barely tolerates having the one. Also Kane's EVA mech has a cape.

Jump Drive:

Everybody get up it's time to slam now
We got a real jam goin' down
Welcome to the Space Jam
Here's your chance, do your dance
At the Space Jam Alright

Come on and slam, and welcome to the jam
Come on and slam, if you wanna jam
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
Two episodes in a row about the problems of weird spaceship layouts. One has the excuse of being the result of a reality warping alien super weapon, the other has no excuse; it was just incredibly bad engineering. Maybe that ship was designed to confuse vengeful ghosts, like the Winchester Mystery House.

The dub makes the tragic look at the last moment of Kanes grandmothers life unintentionally hilarious; she apparently just up and dies in the middle of a casual conversation, and it’s one of those dubs that sidesteps any overt references to death, so they use the word “croak” instead. It’s wild.

Interstellar might also be the cheapest episode so far, half the shots were just dubbed over static images; in one case, rotating one so it looks like they fell over. It’s barely a step above the Marvel Superhero Show. LIked the gag that there’s only one single bathroom on the Swordbreaker because Canal thinks they’re gross and won’t abide them.

Jump drive is a much better episode up and down, the Swordbreaker crew is tasked to keep the mafia from stealing the fuel from a planetary migration ship. Apparently a really bad one because it hasn’t found a planet suitable for human habitation in 40 years, and we’ve seen a different one in damn near every episode so far. Also the mafiosos and the guys on board the ship willing to sell them the fuel are all just ludicrously il-equipped to deal with any member of the crew. turns out Canal can just… throw black holes at people if she wants to; and that’s not even the Swordbreakers big gun.

All of this is secondary because the real meat of the episode is the slam jam that Kane insinuates his way into.

Dont know if it was a. Written joke, or just the dub team having fun, but I loved how completely unimpressed the ships crew was when they finally find a planet they can live on. “Nice enough planet I suppose, got some good hiking trails, probably.” “I’m too old to actually enjoy this!”.
 

Egarwaen

(He/Him)
the other has no excuse; it was just incredibly bad engineering. Maybe that ship was designed to confuse vengeful ghosts, like the Winchester Mystery House.

The sub does try to explain this - they note that the ship’s been modified so much over its 40-year mission to support its increased population that everyone kind of lost track of anything that didn’t directly support keeping the population alive.

This is also an interesting episode because it’s one of several so far that implies that while this civilization can travel between stars, its means of doing so can’t support both speed and volume. Anything fast is small, so doing something like moving enough people to establish a self-sufficient settlement requires stuffing a lot of people on a very slow ship and pointing them in kinda the right direction. Unfortunately the series doesn’t stick to this and is perfectly willing to ignore it in service of, Eg, an episode about an extremely inefficient medical training program.
 
Last edited:

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
Yeah the “Spacefaring culture that has no idea how space travel works“ is definitely the most interesting part of the series.
 

SpoonyBard

A Bard Named SPOONY
(He/Him)
I think I forgot to post last week? Stuff happened. Something something Nightmare.

INTERSTELLAR: The sub titles this episode 'Toilet Fears' which doesn't quite work compared to the dub title. I guess Kain and Millie are, uh, afraid? That they can't find the toilet?

Canal is starting to prove to be the REAL villain of the show, refusing to allow more than one toilet on the ship and just casually exposing Kain to the vacuum of space when he threatens a houseplant.

Also Millie stumbles upon an ominous glowy sphere room that is probably unimportant. She does the smart detective thing and gives it a flick. Keep poking those unexplained outer space phenomena, Millie!

JUMP DRIVE: A whole lot of time is spent on the B plot basketball rivalry and fairly little on the A plot. Which is fine because the A plot was boring and went nowhere, honestly. The goons weren't a threat, even the space mobsters weren't a threat after Canal was done with them. Definitely had more investment on whether or not those kids would get exclusive use of a basketball court no one will likely ever use again once the ship lands!
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
There are six people total who play basketball and the court is hidden; making a roster of who can play when is pretty easy.
 

Egarwaen

(He/Him)
I chose to believe that the players were a secret order dedicated to protecting the ship’s control room, with basketball as both a convenient cover for constantly spending time near it and a means of selecting their successors.

There’s absolutely no evidence of this in the show, of course.
 

Purple

(She/Her)
Interstellar: Oh damn I forgot Baby Kane already had the cape. That's great. As is the airlock gag. The sideways disk drives continue to really bug me. Also, hey, this is a good adventure idea, gonna steal it for a campaign soon I think... and speaking of stealing, that one sound effect sounds like Defender. Or maybe Qix?

Jump: Exploring the juxtaposition of having a functioning generational colony ship in a setting with FTL it just isn't equipped with and people swinging by and trading and such is super fascinating and OK who am I kidding this is the closest I can find but it's really solid.

 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
We’ve got a two parter this week kids, as episodes 11 and 12 are

Friends Scatter
Rain of Tears End


But maybe you know them better as Kuiper Belt and Laser Guns
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
Well, Kuiper was a bit of a mess; immediately killing off Kanes closest and dearest friend, Jess. You remember Jess, of course, Kane never shuts up about all his fond memories of him. He’s a regular character, he is! Turns out they were both hired to act as bodyguards for a cargo ship. They briefly consider changing ships, which would have added some dramatic stakes, but then, nah, they don’t. Anyway, beloved regular character Jess dies after being shot at by a ship way too far away to see, which violates all the laws of physics, and then Kane has to contend with all the pirates himself, which he does handily because, you know, Sword Breaker. Then he gets into a fist fight while trying to work off some steam from his friend dying and the lady he saves calls him a murderer for working with the cargo company.

Laser Guns is even more disjointed, but at Leas gives some closure, turns out that if Canal had done even a moments research into the cargo company she’d have realized that the cargo company was letting Pirates explode their ships as part of an insurance scam, and aforesaid ladies husband got killed as a result. So Kane gives her all the evidence the cops would need to arrest the company owner and then heads off to avenge beloved character Jess by tracking down the ship that murdered him. Which, as it turns out, is another Lost Ship, the Death Cloud (another Slayers reference; Death Cloud is one of the Dark Lords, along with Shabranigdo and Dark Star); the Death Cloud kills a bunch of cops in order to show off how powerful it is, and even Swordbreaker has a hard time beating it, but ultimately succeed because Kane and Canal have had years of experience fighting with a Lost Ship and these yokels have had it for, like, a week. But as soon as they do, an even bigger and way more intimidating lost ship appears, which terrifies Canal, and makes an overt threat to the, before leaving. Then we cut to the Nightmare headquarters, where the leader says that Kane and Canal are presenting too much of a pain in his ass so he’s going to have to get involved directly now.

Hey! I think the plots going to start now!
 

Egarwaen

(He/Him)
These should theoretically have been good episodes but they’re just not. For starters there isn’t enough here to fill out two full episodes; neither Kane’s old friend nor the grieving widow do anything more than move information around, but both get a lot of screen time anyway. The spaceship battle is dull and predictable; I’m pretty sure Yamato does exactly this “warp on top of the long range striker” battle. And the pirate’s ship being a Lost Ship is basically irrelevant. It would have been interesting to see it’s personality, to contrast the other two, but no.
 

SpoonyBard

A Bard Named SPOONY
(He/Him)
Yeah I wasn't super feeling these two either. Can't even be arsed to joke about em! They sure happened though.
 

John

(he/him)
Don't mind me, slowly getting caught back up after vacation and resting for old injuries.

Gravity Wells: Nice well trodden space western scenario. Canal was being a bit too unworried about the macguffin disk when she was getting pelted with thousands of rounds of ammunition. Not much else to say, which is kinda my M.O. for this series in general.
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
Well hurray along as we’ve got episode 13 and 14 next;
Recollection Returns
Fear Whispers


But I like to think of them as Meteorite and Neutron

Were halfway through the show, then we’re back to Slayers!
 
Top