the next next gen: talking about the ninth generation of videogame consoles

[Gaer]

I just learned about this:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1312691843180580876

As someone who plays a lot of Japanese games O to confirm was honestly a major factor keeping me within the Playstation ecosystem. With this plan to make X the norm in all regions and a no PS1-3 backwards compatibility, I feel free for the first time to seriously consider an XBox instead, if I'm going to have to relearn that muscle memory either way. (Currently have no commitment to either of these things and am unlikely to get either one until it's time for a cheaper, smaller revision...)

Oh. That. Is. Gross.

Sony why would you betray us?

 

[Mightyblue]

Because Japan is less than 10% of the PS market apparently, and everyone else uses circle to confirm.

 

[Gaer]

Because Japan is less than 10% of the PS market apparently, and everyone else uses circle to confirm.

It’s gross and unnatural. Only Nintendo is left showing the True Way.

 

[WisteriaHysteria]

As someone who plays a lot of Japanese games O to confirm was honestly a major factor keeping me within the Playstation ecosystem.

I mean, if you want an Xbox, you should get one. But if playing a lot of Japanese games is still something that matters to you, I've got a lot of doubt that you'll be better served with owning an Xbox over a PlayStation when Japanese devs have completely abandoned the platform over the last generation or two outside of the handful of giant AAA games that have an international audience in mind.

Didn’t PS4 let you remap buttons? Was that system-wide or just for specific games?

Yep, and it is system-level.

It’s gross and unnatural. Only Nintendo is left showing the True Way.

Jokes aside, it's fine. Muscle memory makes things annoying for the first few minutes, but I jump between PS4/Switch controls on a regular basis with very little trouble. It's definitely funny to me though that the SEGA control scheme is what's basically won out over the Nintendo scheme over time.

 

[Phantoon]

It’s gross and unnatural. Only Nintendo is left showing the True Way.

I agree!

Honestly though I can go between Nintendo and Sony with no confirmation button issues, the one that really messes me up is the Xbox buttons. The game says "A", I press "B"

 

[Gaer]

Fuuuuuuuck Microsoft

 

[Thraeg]

It’s gross and unnatural. Only Nintendo is left showing the True Way.

Hey, Nintendo is the one who showed me the light of "central-bottom button (A) = confirm". By the time I got a PS2 and then later an Xbox 360, I had built up so much muscle memory in that paradigm from the N64 and Gamecube that it felt like a completely natural transition. I played plenty of SNES as a kid, but by the time Nintendo resurrected that layout, it was too late, and it never felt right to me again. You confirm much more often than cancel in most games, and it feels better to let my thumb naturally rest on that button and roll it inward for the other buttons rather than the reverse.

 

[Gaer]

Apparently Sony confirmed today that “99 percent” of ps4 titles will work out of the box on PS5.

When you sign in to PS5 with your account, you will automatically see your library of played PS4 content through the menu. Approximately 99 percent of the thousands of PS4 titles, both catalog and newly published, will be playable on PS5, and we’re excited about supporting our PlayStation community as they transition from PS4 to PS5 when they’re ready.

 

[Zef]

Honestly, if I can sign into my account from the PS5 and instantly download all my PSN titles (and have them "upscale" to PS4 Pro levels where appropriate), and I can continue to purchase PS4 games, physical or digital, and play them there, that'd be an excellent case for me to upgrade. Especially if some of those titles automatically give me access to the enhanced PS5 version, like Spider-Man.

 

[MetManMas]

Spider-Man has already been confirmed as not doing that.

 

[LBD_Nytetrayn]

It’s gross and unnatural. Only Nintendo is left showing the True Way.

Come now, Xbox uses A to confirm, too!

 

[MCBanjoMike]

Just admit that it was always a bad idea to put confirm on the O button. That's not where your thumbs go! Put the thing you push all the time in the place where your thumbs actually are!

Also, checking in to say that I still have absolutely no idea what I want to do about the next generation of hardware, be it the consoles or the 3000-series of graphics cards that just came out. Ok, bye!

 

[Phantoon]

Come now, Xbox uses A to confirm, too!

*vein starts to pulse on forehead*

 

[Gaer]

Come now, Xbox uses A to confirm, too!

HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

 

[WisteriaHysteria]

Sony released a report on how backwards compatibility will work. Some games might have errors or lost functionality, but only like 10 of the 3k+ PS4 games won't work on PS5. You also can apparently just physically transfer the games from your PS4 to your PS5 too via the whole wifi system transfer thing.

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Sounds pretty good to me. I was already buying one, but this makes thing even easier, since I have a handful of PS4 games installed on my PS4 that it'll be nice knowing I can just port them over fast. Also, YoshiP says the PS4 version of FFXIV will work on the PS5 just fine, and will support the PS4 Pro mode, for all of you guys I know are big on FFXIV.

 

[LBD_Nytetrayn]

Just admit that it was always a bad idea to put confirm on the O button.

I disagree, it's fine to make the O button "confirm."

They should have just put that one where the X button is now, is all.

 

[Phantoon]

Just admit that it was always a bad idea to put confirm on the O button. That's not where your thumbs go! Put the thing you push all the time in the place where your thumbs actually are!

No

You're not my thumb

 

[Gaer]

I disagree, it's fine to make the O button "confirm."

They should have just put that one where the X button is now, is all.

Oh, I see you’ve chosen death.

I’m mostly joking

 

[q 3]

I am crowdfunding a new console with buttons labelled "Yes/Jump" "No/Shoot" other languages are available but the games are all region locked

 

[ShakeWell]

There's a list of the PS4 games not compatible with PS5, and it's shockingly short (though I guess it's technically "tentative"):

• DWVR
• Afro Samurai 2 Revenge of Kuma Volume One
• TT Isle of Man - Ride on the Edge 2
• Just Deal With It!
• Shadow Complex Remastered
• Robinson: The Journey
• We Sing
• Hitman Go: Definitive Edition
• Shadwen
• Joe's Diner

I feel like the only games on there that might cause any level of upset are Shadow Complex and Hitman Go? But even then, I don't suspect there are a ton of people playing those.

 

[Phantoon]

Just Deal With It! retroactively now has the perfect name

I will be interested to see what compatible means in this instance though. Tekken Tag Tournament displayed correctly with no crashing on the software PS3, just at half speed.

 

[muteKi]

Even better, JDWI is one of two games on the list without a PC version. The other one is We Sing

 

[Zef]

Nooo! Not Talking TIme Isle Of Man - Ride on the Edge 2!

I wonder what those games do that would make them incompatible with an architecture that supports the extraordinarily demanding games of the two or three years.

 

[LBD_Nytetrayn]

Oh, I see you’ve chosen death.

I’m mostly joking

Yes, well, consider the alternative.

 

[Becksworth]

Weird that Shadow Complex doesn’t work. You would think Epic wouldn’t be one of the developers doing strange things with the Unreal engine that don’t translate well when jumping to newer hardware since, you know, they make the Unreal engine.

 

[Sarge]

Well, it was really Chair doing the heavy lifting on that one. Great game - wish it had a sequel.

 

[4-So]

 

[Positronic Brain]

I just want to know - are we getting folders at launch?

 

[Positronic Brain]

Huge boi is huge.

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[4-So]

First console I'll have to set up vertically, more out of necessity than desire.