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The Human Adventure Continues: Talking About Star Trek
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Star Trek: Prodigy just wrapped up for now. And I’ve gotta say I’m extremely impressed. This show was just legitimately good without reservation or caveat. It’s marketed as a show for a kid demographic, but it’s just a very good Star Trek show period, full stop. It’s mildly infuriating that it’s prematurely ending. (There’s another 10 episodes they could put out right now, but are holding back for whatever reason.) But it wouldn’t be Star Trek without a debilitatingly anxious cliffhanger between seasons. 😂 I’m very glad new generations of viewers get to experience what I did growing up, even in this digital streaming age
And speaking of, it’s hard not to feel blessed as a Trek fan right now. We went from zero Trek just a few short years ago, to having five concurrently running shows at the same time. And they’re all good somehow!?!? Disco really hit its stride and grew a beard in S3; S4 is awesome. Lower Decks and Prodigy are animated shows that do honor to the franchise and the medium. Strange New Worlds looks incredible. The only show that has any knicks in the armor is Picard strangely enough, with a very uneven first season. But there’s a really strong foundation there for next season to build into something special, so long as they learned from their very easy to avoid mistakes from the first season.
And speaking of, it’s hard not to feel blessed as a Trek fan right now. We went from zero Trek just a few short years ago, to having five concurrently running shows at the same time. And they’re all good somehow!?!? Disco really hit its stride and grew a beard in S3; S4 is awesome. Lower Decks and Prodigy are animated shows that do honor to the franchise and the medium. Strange New Worlds looks incredible. The only show that has any knicks in the armor is Picard strangely enough, with a very uneven first season. But there’s a really strong foundation there for next season to build into something special, so long as they learned from their very easy to avoid mistakes from the first season.
If the show runners and cast are to be believed, their intention with the show is to make it much more episodic in nature.
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Paramount's lack of content really is our gain. Once the Georgiou spin-off comes out they'll have doubled the total number of Trek shows.
I don't really have any interest in Strange New Worlds, but I'm glad it exists since the goal behind it seems to be something for people who miss the classic Trek formula. It will take a lot of pressure off the other shows in terms of expectation. The coolest part of NuTrek is that each of the shows is pretty different from the other shows.
I don't really have any interest in Strange New Worlds, but I'm glad it exists since the goal behind it seems to be something for people who miss the classic Trek formula. It will take a lot of pressure off the other shows in terms of expectation. The coolest part of NuTrek is that each of the shows is pretty different from the other shows.
Hard agree. They were basically the only good characters on that show.
WTB a show that's just geriatric TNG characters in a Romulan nursing home.
Again with damn Romulan Secret Societies
Yes, but it's not hard to imagine why they're back in action if you've seen the trailers for Season 2. Q fucks with history and makes the Federation a fascist state; all of PIC's crew still remember their old lives though and heed Picard's call to go back in time to fix shit.
I wanted that. I don't think that was ever in the cards though. I'm willing to bet they'll get killed off actually.
They really should have addressed what was going to happen to Pill's character at the end of the first season. There is at least some justification, however flimsy, that the mind meld Oh did with her implanted the same AI sourced message that made her fleshy brain BSOD like the other Romulans that saw it, so a case could be made that she wasn't in her right mind.
But they didn't even go that far and just ended the season with her as one of the gang.
And I like Pill's character, but that needs to be addressed.
But they didn't even go that far and just ended the season with her as one of the gang.
And I like Pill's character, but that needs to be addressed.
They did address it though? IIRC She talked about her guilt and wanting to atone for her crimes by following the law. That says to me go to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200 to me. Even if that isn't the case, I have faith the show will explain what's happened to her at the beginning of S2.
What needed more of an explanation was evil Romulan spy guy who we never see or hear what happens to him after he's captured. The head writer insists he just goes off to jail bye bye, but the plot just forgets about him during the climax and he's never seen again.
What needed more of an explanation was evil Romulan spy guy who we never see or hear what happens to him after he's captured. The head writer insists he just goes off to jail bye bye, but the plot just forgets about him during the climax and he's never seen again.
My guess is that if the evil spy twins plot hadn't gone over like a lead balloon, he would've gotten away to menace our heroes another day, rather than being handwaved into jail between seasons.
I also am not expecting many major consequences for Pill's character, maybe something like "you were brainwashed by a Romulan/Vulcan fanatic, but you did kill your boyfriend, so we'll call it a wash, here's a slap on the wrist" and she loses her Daystrom Institute job so she can continue galavanting across the stars on La Sirens with her new hot captain boyfriend. I mean, this is a TV show after all.
I am overall intrigued by Picard Season 2, still a bit wary, but hopeful that the new showrunner had steered the ship a little better. We'll see soon enough!
Say, what's Denise Crosby up to these days...?
If you take the showrunner at his word, that was not ever the plan/implication. He had a post-climax scene written up for the guy, but the scene was cut due to time constraints. All the stuff I read about Michael Chabon's time writing for Picard, the guy had a lot of really interesting ideas and spent a lot of time/energy doing stuff like fleshing out the lore of Romulan society. But the guy's ability to condense his ideas down into a modern TV show format seemed lacking. It's often a rough transition for someone to write in one medium and then cross over into another. I'm personally willing to chalk up a lot of PIC S1's struggles due to Chabon's growing pains. I'm cautiously optimistic that Chabon stepping down as showrunner for S2 and 3, but still being in the writing room will lead to his strengths as a writer being catered to, and his weaknesses tempered and ironed out by the industry vets on the team.
She should have shown up during Nemesis, but then didn't. Honestly, Tasha should have just been straight up revived from the dead and allowed to join the Enterpise-D back in the day when she wanted to come back. Rick Berman is a dbag.
‘Star Trek’ Cast, Including Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto, Returning for Fourth Film
"Star Trek" stars Chris Pine, Zoe Saldana, Zachary Quinto, Karl Urban, John Cho and Simon Pegg have all signed up for a fourth movie.
variety.com
Why?
Note: I like all 3 of these movies. I think 1 is a ton of fun, 2 had some cool s31 stuff before it was run into the ground, and 3 was very underrated.
That said - this very much not needed in the post Discovery world of oops! all treks!
Thoughts?
Because those movies are well liked, made a lot of money, made the careers of many of its actors who are now very bankable stars, were an important gateway drug for tons of fans into the franchise (even more important now that almost everything is locked behind P+), and still to this day one of CBS/Viacom/Paramount's crown jewel IPs that shouldn't lay fallow for too long. "TV Trek is thriving, why make movies?" to me seems like a question that answers itself.
I've gone back and forth on the Kelvin Timeline movies but I think I've settled into broadly enjoying them. They're dumb, but they're fun and well made. And despite the bleating of gatekeepers, they're perfectly fine Star Trek things.
Beyond lost a lot of money though.
Don't get me wrong. I'm there, but still seems odd lo these many years later.
Star Trek Beyond should be in the conversation for "best Star Trek movie."
Yea. I love it a lot.
Plus anything with nx ships. I love it on principal
It did, but on top of the delayed punishment from Into Darkness, that was also through the magic of Hollywood financing shenanigans. It had a worldwide box office take of $340M on a budget of $185M. That's less than the other two but not egregiously so/beyond the point of profitability. And because of how the film was made in a special partnership with a Chinese distributor this time around, the Paramount cut of the pie was a lot smaller versus the previous movies. Fundamentally, nothing about the movie itself was bad or would justify nailing the coffin shut on that universe/film series. Quite the opposite, in fact IMO. If they can still make a movie that made money despite how poisoned the well was from the last one in the series, and despite the lackluster marketing effort, and despite the dumb attempt to pander to the Chinese market... making another one of these but learning from all the dumb administrative mistakes ought to work out pretty well for them.
CBS dropped a new teaser trailer for Strange New Worlds
Looking good! On a tangent, I am amused by P+ waiting until after the Obiwan trailer went up to put this up. And this show will come out a day after it on May 5th.
Looking good! On a tangent, I am amused by P+ waiting until after the Obiwan trailer went up to put this up. And this show will come out a day after it on May 5th.
Obi-Wan starts on May 25th.
Oh I assumed it would just premiere on the 4th, that’s a missed opportunity. Shame. Thanks for the correction tho
My guess is they don't want it overlapping with Moon Knight
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May the twenty be fifth you.
‘Star Trek: Strange New Worlds’ Casts Captain Kirk: Paul Wesley to Play Iconic Character
The 'Vampire Diaries' actor will step into the sci-fi role made famous by William Shatner.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
More than a little disappointed that they're using this ace up their sleeve this early in the show's life. But I'll try to keep an open mind about it all.
Huh, yeah, seems like a weird move to bring him on so soon, and the article seems to be implying as captain (though they may have that wrong?). Also not that I care a whole lot but having a bunch of time with both captains on the show seems much more fraught with continuity issues, as my memory is Kirk wasn’t nearly as familiar with Pike as Spock was in the relevant TOS eps.
If memory serves, Kirk said in The Menagerie that he'd only met Pike once, when he was promoted and Kirk took over the Enterprise from him. So any earlier encounter would contradict that. But I'm not really too upset at undoing this wrinkle from The Menagerie (not a great episode) when undoing wrinkles from TOS is literally a TNG era pastime. (Zefram Cochrane it turns out, is not from Alpha Centauri, and First Contact was a better movie for it.)
A picture on the P+ twitter (same as the thumbnail for the article) shows the actor with Captain stripes on his sleeves. I dunno if that's a photoshop, or an on-set picture. There's a million possibilities here, there could be timey-wimey stuff going on, this could be another one of Pike seeing the future business like he did in S2 of DIS. The USS Farragut could show up with Lt Kirk, who knows. I just think it's too early to play this card regardless. I was excited for Pike to get his own show without the spectre of Kirk breathing down his neck, and a little disappointed they're going in this route. BUT! I'll try and keep my preconceptions and expectations to a minimum to give this a fair shot.