Yes. I watched this week’s DISCO right after.
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Star Trek: Picard - Make It So Engage Earl Grey Hot
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A few thoughts I had about the episode: (spoilers ahead - go watch the episode if you haven't already!)
- All the changes in the status quo here are fun. My interpretation of a lot of them were mostly point on from what I wrote earlier. Raffi being assigned to the USS Excelsior was fun. Picard name-dropping Spock here had the potential to feel forced/bad, but it makes a lot of sense given Picard's intimate relationship with him, and how relevant his experiences might be for Elnor.
- Picard modernizing his farming operation on his family estate is a nice little detail.
- The new variation of the intro song is great. This, and a LOT of artistic decisions in this episode felt specifically engineered and placed in order to address common fan complaints. Like, there's an entire protracted glory-shot of the new USS Stargazer to epic music that seems very specifically a direct placating of naysayers.
- Speaking of addressing criticisms, Picard's entire arc so far seems focused around his propensity to live with regrets, as well as a before unmentioned childhood trauma to explain both why he joined Starfleet, as well as more importantly why he never settled down with Crusher or anyone else. I know a lot of bad people will complain about this as some kind of character assassination having Picard have 'mommy/daddy issues', but I love it. It makes a LOT of sense given what we know about his parents and his upbringing. Recall this brilliant little moment in the first season of TNG, that would have been silly and bad in the hands of any lesser actor:
And the only time we're ever shown Picard's father in "Tapestry":
It's a dark turn, but it's something a lot of enterprising fans have theorized about for decades. And I suspect the purpose of this is to ultimately be a positive moral parable, that a lot of people can relate to and honestly need to hear. I personally know a lot of people who have poorly internalized a rough or abusive upbringing that's kept them from having healthy relationships and completely dissuaded them from having families. It's something I personally worry about too. But many of us need reminders that we aren't our parents and we are not destined to repeat their failures. And I think this is likely something coming from a very genuine and heart-felt place on behalf of the show, because Pstew has been very vocal in the past about the domestic abuse he lived through as a child and how it's affected his life. - Of all the new characters in PIC, I think I enjoy Raffi's rapport with Jean-Luc the most. I'm so glad that we get to see more of it.
- I seem to remember in the past reading many similar takes from various fans along the lines of how they enjoyed Picard & Laris's rapport/chemistry, and wished that Zhaban wasn't there - and that I kinda agreed with them. Well, here we are. This is a rather bittersweet development for me. Because as much as it works, and as much as I don't really miss Zhaban since he wasn't particularly interesting in Season 1... this development seems very specifically written to cover for there not being Crusher involved in this season and for Laris to be a thematic Crusher stand-in. Which is personally sad since I stanned those two for decades, but I'm not gonna cry over spilt milk.
- The mad lads actually addressed Guinan looking older, and in a way that basically boils down to "because I felt like it, deal with it". Which again, I'm sure certain bad fans will whine and complain about, but I thought the explanation both fit/works. And it fits/explains pretty well what we've seen in the past, such as Dr Soran being hundreds of years younger than Guinan but somehow looking much much older.
- The wrong kinds of fans are going to have bad things to say about Los Angeles being depicted in the 25th Century as very much existent and not at the bottom of the sea. And to that I say, lighten up assholes. Zefram Cochran wasn't from Alpha Centauri. We can retcon dumb things once in a while. They've had hundreds of years to rebuild one of America's greatest cities in the aftermath of some dumb/impossible earthquake or WWIII. Just think of it that way if you need.
- The extent to which Voyager's assault on the Borg in the series finale "Endgame" had damaged the Borg Collective has always been a hotly debated topic that has never had a firm answer until now. And personally, it's nice to see that they're honoring VOY by characterizing the Borg of this period as decimated and hobbled.
- Speaking of the Borg, the entire scenario here is fantastic. "The Borg are now asking to join the Federation" is a solid enough hook to be something they could have oriented their entire show and ad campaign around. It's a tantalizing prospect. It's something I've always pondered from time to time. If you're the Borg, and you're largely ruled by logical processes, at what point after taking all these Ls to the Federation do you finally just realize maybe their way is better than ours? And wouldn't the logical outcome of that epiphany lead anyone to realize that joining the Federation would be the best route to achieving their stated goal of advancing towards perfection? That entire scene seemed designed around creating doubt as to whether or not the Borg's intentions were genuine or not, but I think there's pretty overwhelming evidence that their request was in fact genuine/in good faith.
- The Federation Armada that shows up to answer the Borg was glorious to behold. Again, a very conscious answer to critiques of Season 1.
- This new Borg ship opening up into a giant space vagina sure was a choice that I'm all here for.
- Q's entrance, and Jean-Luc's reaction the moment he begins to realize what is going on and who is talking to him was just *chef's kiss* merveilleux!
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This week's Ready Room had a preview of next week's episode:
Man, both these guys are such good actors. And you can really taste the palpable contempt and disappointment that Q has for the man Jean-Luc has become.
Man, both these guys are such good actors. And you can really taste the palpable contempt and disappointment that Q has for the man Jean-Luc has become.
Loved the first episode. I managed to find a lot to like about Season 1, but I'd be lying if I said this first episode's shift in tone didn't get me excited.
I've been meaning to listen to that 'No Man's Land' audiobook which focuses on Seven and Raffi in between seasons, so it might fill in some extra details on some other stuff that happened in the interim.
I appreciate that only just enough lip service was paid to some of the more controversial holdovers from the first season. Is Picard still a synthetic? Sure. Does it matter? Evidentally the showrunners don't want us to think so. Also, Dr. Jurati did get off the hook for killing Maddox, though she mentions she 'only recently' was exhonerated and since this is like a couple years later it likely wasn't a quick process, at least.
Anyone else find it really weird that Zhaban was basically killed off so Picard would have opportunity to pine after Laris?
Guinan was great, and I hope she has more appearances. But, that last scene...
Oh man that last scene.
I've been waiting for this for a long time, I really hope the season can stick the landing wherever it decides to go.
I've been meaning to listen to that 'No Man's Land' audiobook which focuses on Seven and Raffi in between seasons, so it might fill in some extra details on some other stuff that happened in the interim.
I appreciate that only just enough lip service was paid to some of the more controversial holdovers from the first season. Is Picard still a synthetic? Sure. Does it matter? Evidentally the showrunners don't want us to think so. Also, Dr. Jurati did get off the hook for killing Maddox, though she mentions she 'only recently' was exhonerated and since this is like a couple years later it likely wasn't a quick process, at least.
Anyone else find it really weird that Zhaban was basically killed off so Picard would have opportunity to pine after Laris?
Guinan was great, and I hope she has more appearances. But, that last scene...
Oh man that last scene.
I've been waiting for this for a long time, I really hope the season can stick the landing wherever it decides to go.
Q loves Picard. Romantically even. Maybe not that he needs a GF, but definitely needs to get tf out of whatever funk he's in so he can go back to being the man he loves and adores. Doing it the only way he knows how - by hurling stupid/ridiculous life-or-death dilemmas at him to watch him rise to the challenge.
I liked the first episode of Season 2. I wish the show would calm down a little, but that is apparently not the show they are making.
100% the writers for that episode definitely started with the premise of "Picard and Q in bed" and worked backwards from there when writing.
FelixSH
(He/Him)
I enjoyed the episode a lot. So, anything negative I will say is just nitpicking, and doesn't mean the episode was bad. Having Guinan here is great (though I couldn't help but ask myself, why he wouldn't have gone to her in S1, or even before that, but I already forgot if he even knew, where to find her - not a big deal, in any case, just a nitpick), and seeing Q again is, of course, a delight. Feels, in general, way more like what I want from Trek show. Looking forward to seeing more.
I do like the idea of the Borg wanting to join the Federation, and then just doing it the only way they know - by taking it. Because they are, of course, the best, and have a really hard time understanding, how "asking for help" works. I'm sure that's all there is to it, and that they aren't actually hostile, just incapable of asking for help, like a normal person or race. And Qs weird game is just there, so Picard remembers that someone in need should get help. Because here, we see him not sure of that. I assume the Borg Queen takes over, because her people are in grave danger, and help isn't coming fast enough.
For complaints with that idea (very nitpicky, it's, again, not a big deal, just want to talk about it): This goes waaaay back to, uh, maybe TNG? The Borg were introduced as this incredibly dangerous antagonist, someone the Federation isn't equipped to deal with, at all. So, how do you work with someone like that? You can only make them look weaker. At my last rewatch of TNG, I didn't really buy that the solution of the Enterprise would work. It was a virus, right? I simply can't imagine, that no one has ever tried this before, and that the Borg wouldn't be able to protect themselves against this. And then, we get Voyager, where they appear often, and therefore have to be made even more toothless. Until they are basically defeated, at the end. Well, I never liked THAT, even when I first saw it. It all felt too soon, even with technology from the future.
To be clear, I do love what we get out of this, and it's probably worth making the Borg weaker, all the time. That way, we got Seven and got a lot of stories, where the Borg are explored, which I love. We get this here, the Borg wanting to join the Federation, which is a great story setup. So, in the end, I don't mind (or more precisely, think it works well), just a bit inside my head is frustrated, by seeing these powerful, horrifying creatures already brought down so low.
With regards to his love live - he never, ever struck me as someone, who is married to anything but science and his ship. He always seemed to me, like someone who loved his work, and simply didn't need a partner, being satisfied with his friends. I know, TNG tried to sell us on him and Beverly, but to me, that always seemed more like a case of "protagonist needs to have a romance with one of the main characters", something there, just because it has to be there. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think TNG itself doesn't do much with this, either? And I also might be biased, because I couldn't care less about most romances in TV shows, as they so often feel forced. I'm way more interested in depicting friendship, so I tend to read even intended romances as friendships, until it is extremely explicitly made clear. So, my bias might blind me a bit here.
Anyway, great first episode, looking forward to more.
I do like the idea of the Borg wanting to join the Federation, and then just doing it the only way they know - by taking it. Because they are, of course, the best, and have a really hard time understanding, how "asking for help" works. I'm sure that's all there is to it, and that they aren't actually hostile, just incapable of asking for help, like a normal person or race. And Qs weird game is just there, so Picard remembers that someone in need should get help. Because here, we see him not sure of that. I assume the Borg Queen takes over, because her people are in grave danger, and help isn't coming fast enough.
For complaints with that idea (very nitpicky, it's, again, not a big deal, just want to talk about it): This goes waaaay back to, uh, maybe TNG? The Borg were introduced as this incredibly dangerous antagonist, someone the Federation isn't equipped to deal with, at all. So, how do you work with someone like that? You can only make them look weaker. At my last rewatch of TNG, I didn't really buy that the solution of the Enterprise would work. It was a virus, right? I simply can't imagine, that no one has ever tried this before, and that the Borg wouldn't be able to protect themselves against this. And then, we get Voyager, where they appear often, and therefore have to be made even more toothless. Until they are basically defeated, at the end. Well, I never liked THAT, even when I first saw it. It all felt too soon, even with technology from the future.
To be clear, I do love what we get out of this, and it's probably worth making the Borg weaker, all the time. That way, we got Seven and got a lot of stories, where the Borg are explored, which I love. We get this here, the Borg wanting to join the Federation, which is a great story setup. So, in the end, I don't mind (or more precisely, think it works well), just a bit inside my head is frustrated, by seeing these powerful, horrifying creatures already brought down so low.
With regards to his love live - he never, ever struck me as someone, who is married to anything but science and his ship. He always seemed to me, like someone who loved his work, and simply didn't need a partner, being satisfied with his friends. I know, TNG tried to sell us on him and Beverly, but to me, that always seemed more like a case of "protagonist needs to have a romance with one of the main characters", something there, just because it has to be there. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think TNG itself doesn't do much with this, either? And I also might be biased, because I couldn't care less about most romances in TV shows, as they so often feel forced. I'm way more interested in depicting friendship, so I tend to read even intended romances as friendships, until it is extremely explicitly made clear. So, my bias might blind me a bit here.
Anyway, great first episode, looking forward to more.
I haven't started in on Picard S2 yet but yeah, TNG seemed only vaguely and intermittently interested in portraying any kind of romance between Picard and Beverly; the whole thing seemed very tepid, which suits me just fine. Though I did like the detail in the "All Good Things..." future that they eventually did get together but then subsequently split up -- that seems about how it would go.
I guess there was Vash, too. Remember Vash? Remember that time she showed up on DS9 for no reason?
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I guess there was Vash, too. Remember Vash? Remember that time she showed up on DS9 for no reason?
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"fierce"
Here's the list
1. Carol Marcus (Kelvin version pictures)
2. Mirror Universe Kira
3. Troi
4. T'Pol
5. Mirror Ezri
6. Kevin Uhura
7. TOS Romulan Commander
8. Marlena Moreau
9. Number One
10. Orion Women (ugh)
11. Vash
12. Martia
13. Jadzia
14. Mirror Uhura
15. Seven of Nine
This list is from hell
Here's the list
1. Carol Marcus (Kelvin version pictures)
2. Mirror Universe Kira
3. Troi
4. T'Pol
5. Mirror Ezri
6. Kevin Uhura
7. TOS Romulan Commander
8. Marlena Moreau
9. Number One
10. Orion Women (ugh)
11. Vash
12. Martia
13. Jadzia
14. Mirror Uhura
15. Seven of Nine
This list is from hell
Felix that's an argument I hear articulated very often on the internet. And while I think it's an accurate diagnosis of what's happened to the Borg as an adversary over time, I think the prognosis (not yours -- you seem much more level headed and open minded than most) that this is somehow a bad thing and a failure of the franchise, is wildly missing the forest for the trees. Like, this entire description of the Borg and what happened to them... that's kind of what happens to all enemies in Star Trek? Or really, just things people fear in general. People fear first and foremost the unknown. So getting to better know something spooky and scary automatically makes that thing less terrifying. And the more you conqueror it, the more you prove it's less of a threat and thus becomes even less terrifying. That is how the world works. Why should the Borg be uniquely excused from this?
And yes, the Borg were initially positioned as this thing that was fairly unique in Star Trek. And losing what makes them unique would normally be a shame. But there's important context to remember here. The difference is that losing that fear in the unknown - is literally one of the guiding themes and principles of Star Trek. The same with the fundamental Star Trek creed of keeping an open mind, learning about your adversaries, and finding common ground to eventually facilitate a peace with them. And I find much more value in those core tenants of the franchise, than I do my warm fuzzy memories of the Borg being terrifying on my 19" crt back in the day as a little kid. Because even at their best used or during their very successful genesis, the Borg were at their core, just vehicles for telling Star Trek parables. To me, this and any evolution of the Borg as an adversary, just continues that and takes them to their logical conclusion. And that isn't something to lament or regret, but imo is worthy of celebration. We shouldn't be so afraid of change like this. *Cues up Kirk discussing the nature of The Undiscovered Country*
And yes, the Borg were initially positioned as this thing that was fairly unique in Star Trek. And losing what makes them unique would normally be a shame. But there's important context to remember here. The difference is that losing that fear in the unknown - is literally one of the guiding themes and principles of Star Trek. The same with the fundamental Star Trek creed of keeping an open mind, learning about your adversaries, and finding common ground to eventually facilitate a peace with them. And I find much more value in those core tenants of the franchise, than I do my warm fuzzy memories of the Borg being terrifying on my 19" crt back in the day as a little kid. Because even at their best used or during their very successful genesis, the Borg were at their core, just vehicles for telling Star Trek parables. To me, this and any evolution of the Borg as an adversary, just continues that and takes them to their logical conclusion. And that isn't something to lament or regret, but imo is worthy of celebration. We shouldn't be so afraid of change like this. *Cues up Kirk discussing the nature of The Undiscovered Country*
One of the things I've noticed on my most recent rewatch of TNG is this interesting little pattern. Literally any time either Picard or Crusher have an episode focused on their love lives, there is ALWAYS a part of the episode that focuses in on how the other reacts to their new romantic entanglements. Crusher gets a new BF? Picard is there to look kinda wistful and sad. Picard gets a new GF? Crusher lights up either in curiosity or jealousy. Both are the caring, supportive type, and neither would say anything other than support and acceptance for what the other does in their love lives, but it's painfully obvious the two still harbor feelings for each other through the entire show. And just the sheer volume and consistency of these scenes tells me that the writers are very aware of those feelings and are seeking to play them off for drama, rather than the previously stated disinterest in such things.
Picard's whole "married to the job" thing initially comes from the whole Horatio Hornblower stereotype that Gene Roddenberry and other writers on the franchise were very much infatuated and in love with. That and the 80s/90s Hollywood's pathological obsession with episodic TV and the sheer terror they used to have with anything that challenged the status quo and would thus confuse the lowest common denominator during syndicated reruns (historically the real money in Star Trek). But that's never been a satisfying answer for me specifically, given not just what we know about Picard as a character but how he's been presented over the years. His very consistent characterization as a young man, combined with his frequent trysts with love, and his penchant for dwelling on regrets/mistakes of the past said to me there had to have been more at play here. Some kind of deeper trauma. Part of that was explored in the Season 7 episode "Attached" -- but that was never a satisfying answer. On the contrary, the episode ends with Jean-Luc making a direct overture to Beverly to 'explore those feelings' together, and the episode closes on her shutting him down for vague, poorly defined reasons that never got a proper follow up.
So to me, it honestly makes a lot of sense that they're taking things in this direction as an explanation for why Picard remained a single man his entire life. It vibes perfectly with what we know about his family, his upbringing, and what we know about his characters as a person up to this point. I think it's interesting, and I think it's a valuable idea to explore in Star Trek how these kinds of things hold people back even when we know logically that they shouldn't.
Picard's whole "married to the job" thing initially comes from the whole Horatio Hornblower stereotype that Gene Roddenberry and other writers on the franchise were very much infatuated and in love with. That and the 80s/90s Hollywood's pathological obsession with episodic TV and the sheer terror they used to have with anything that challenged the status quo and would thus confuse the lowest common denominator during syndicated reruns (historically the real money in Star Trek). But that's never been a satisfying answer for me specifically, given not just what we know about Picard as a character but how he's been presented over the years. His very consistent characterization as a young man, combined with his frequent trysts with love, and his penchant for dwelling on regrets/mistakes of the past said to me there had to have been more at play here. Some kind of deeper trauma. Part of that was explored in the Season 7 episode "Attached" -- but that was never a satisfying answer. On the contrary, the episode ends with Jean-Luc making a direct overture to Beverly to 'explore those feelings' together, and the episode closes on her shutting him down for vague, poorly defined reasons that never got a proper follow up.
So to me, it honestly makes a lot of sense that they're taking things in this direction as an explanation for why Picard remained a single man his entire life. It vibes perfectly with what we know about his family, his upbringing, and what we know about his characters as a person up to this point. I think it's interesting, and I think it's a valuable idea to explore in Star Trek how these kinds of things hold people back even when we know logically that they shouldn't.
Definitely "drawing names out of a hat" -- and a hat that seems intent on completely ignoring the existence of nuTrek. (How you gonna make a list about "fierce" women in Star Trek and not include Philippa Georgiou?) I don't mind Deanna being there. Outside of her dreadful work attire, I always thought she had a keen sense of fashion, had a terrific wit/nasty sarcastic streak, and generally carried herself with a lot of confidence and presence (when the plot wasn't trying to violate her mind or some regressive nonsense). Having Dax and Seven that low though is just... I don't even understand but I suspect the list is more informed by heterosexual horniness than any objectivity of what 'fierce' means. I mean, it's a CBR listicle after all.
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Deanna has her moments (Face of the Enemy, for one) but honestly if you're gonna award the 'fierce' title to one of Sirtis's roles, I mean, Demona is right there.
Uhura, but only specifically when she is looking in a mirror.
At first I assumed that they were limiting the list to one "version" of each character only, which would be why Mirror Kira made the cut and Regular-Ass Kira did not. But no! They've got two Uhuras on there! You're telling me Kira Nerys doesn't even crack the top fifteen fiercest Star Trek women????
This list has thrown my life into a tailspin
This list has thrown my life into a tailspin
Oh 100%. I bit the bullet and clicked on the article, it's 100% just a "these Trek girls make us horny" list. It was also written in 2017, so I guess that's why there's no nuTrek here either.
FelixSH
(He/Him)
What a bizarre (also: stupid) list. Regular Kira isn't even on there, and Seven is at the bottom? Yeah, sure, whatever.
Who is Number One? I guess they aren't talking about Riker here.
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With regards to the Borg, I agree. As mentioned, the tradeoff the franchise made here paid off, I think. Their exploration through TNG and VOY was always very interesting. I mean, you do lose something, and you get something, and what we got is simply more interesting. The alternative would have been to simply not use them. Having them appear, means they have to be defeated in some way, and each time would take away from how scary they are. I simply think, there is no story potential there. Maybe if you made Voyager into a "One Year of Hell" series, like some people want, which I certainly don't. Exploring them the way the show did was way more interesting.
I just want them to never make the Borg a Human creation. It will make me roll my eyes so hard, that they will fall out. And I need my eyes, so please don't do this, Trek people.
Who is Number One? I guess they aren't talking about Riker here.
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With regards to the Borg, I agree. As mentioned, the tradeoff the franchise made here paid off, I think. Their exploration through TNG and VOY was always very interesting. I mean, you do lose something, and you get something, and what we got is simply more interesting. The alternative would have been to simply not use them. Having them appear, means they have to be defeated in some way, and each time would take away from how scary they are. I simply think, there is no story potential there. Maybe if you made Voyager into a "One Year of Hell" series, like some people want, which I certainly don't. Exploring them the way the show did was way more interesting.
I just want them to never make the Borg a Human creation. It will make me roll my eyes so hard, that they will fall out. And I need my eyes, so please don't do this, Trek people.
To be clear, I'm not complaining about him having some past, childhood trauma. That's fine, and fits with the fact that he has a bad relationship with his brother (well, insofar as his family life isn't perfect, and that there might be deeper problems). And sure, you can totally make this the reason for why he has trouble with romantic relationships. If that is the route they want to go, go ahead. It will be fine, as long as they never go that obnoxious route, of giving him a love interest, just so they can then, when they get together, be the worst couple ever. Will not happen here, so it's fine.
I do have a problem with the idea, that no interest in a romantic relationship has to be related to trauma. I never had interest in finding a partner. I need friends, but am perfectly fine without romance. And I'd like to see this more often protrayed on TV. Because I'd like to see people like me reflected more often. Just this reassurance, especially to teens and tweens, that you can torally have a fulfilling live, even if you stay single all the way through. There is nothing wrong with you, if you are that way. I'm sure that what we see on TV, in movies, about every lead character always needing a partner, is partly responsible for way too many people being obsessed with needing a partner. Yeah, there are certainly a lot who need one, for a fulfilled live, but there a likely also more people like me, who just never even thought about the possibility, of being happy on their own.
I mean, if you say that it was there all the time, I believe you. But even that is likely just a product of the idea that he is a guy, so he certainly had some romantic adventures in his youth. And he is the male lead, so of course he needs a female partner. I mean, if it's there, it's there. I'm not even complaining about this one instance, just about the fact that we always have to include romance, just because. Give me some friendship. Explore that. It doesn't have to be romance, all the time.
Like, with Picard, I can see him spending more time with Vash (at least my memory tells me that it would work), but even then, not as a romantic couple, but as friends/rivals, who like to go on archeological adventures. That works for me, and interests me. Having just one more character in a romantic relationship, probably not any more interesting than the million others we always see in every show. Ok, carry on.
Again, I don't mind (I know, this sounds strange after all these words, I'm just bad at keeping it short). It doesn't work for me, but it also isn't a thing that I hold against the show, and if they want to go that route, I won't mind. It seems, like they will spend most of the time with more interesting stuff anyway, and I can imagine a Picard romance to be fine. Whatever, as long as they kick some fashist butt, and we see a bit more of Q and Guinan, I'm happy to keep watching.
I do have a problem with the idea, that no interest in a romantic relationship has to be related to trauma. I never had interest in finding a partner. I need friends, but am perfectly fine without romance. And I'd like to see this more often protrayed on TV. Because I'd like to see people like me reflected more often. Just this reassurance, especially to teens and tweens, that you can torally have a fulfilling live, even if you stay single all the way through. There is nothing wrong with you, if you are that way. I'm sure that what we see on TV, in movies, about every lead character always needing a partner, is partly responsible for way too many people being obsessed with needing a partner. Yeah, there are certainly a lot who need one, for a fulfilled live, but there a likely also more people like me, who just never even thought about the possibility, of being happy on their own.
I mean, if you say that it was there all the time, I believe you. But even that is likely just a product of the idea that he is a guy, so he certainly had some romantic adventures in his youth. And he is the male lead, so of course he needs a female partner. I mean, if it's there, it's there. I'm not even complaining about this one instance, just about the fact that we always have to include romance, just because. Give me some friendship. Explore that. It doesn't have to be romance, all the time.
Like, with Picard, I can see him spending more time with Vash (at least my memory tells me that it would work), but even then, not as a romantic couple, but as friends/rivals, who like to go on archeological adventures. That works for me, and interests me. Having just one more character in a romantic relationship, probably not any more interesting than the million others we always see in every show. Ok, carry on.
Again, I don't mind (I know, this sounds strange after all these words, I'm just bad at keeping it short). It doesn't work for me, but it also isn't a thing that I hold against the show, and if they want to go that route, I won't mind. It seems, like they will spend most of the time with more interesting stuff anyway, and I can imagine a Picard romance to be fine. Whatever, as long as they kick some fashist butt, and we see a bit more of Q and Guinan, I'm happy to keep watching.
One of PIC's production designers has been sharing his work on the show this season, including a pretty look at all the ships featured in the first episode. Some of them are brand new designs, some you might recognize as borrowed from Star Trek: Online:
It's a whole thread that's worth clicking through on. But here's a few of the highlights:
It's a whole thread that's worth clicking through on. But here's a few of the highlights:
This week's episode was awesome. The Q scenes were really good. John DeLancie has still got it*. And this budget-Mirror Universe is pretty dope too. (They probably would have just made it THE Mirror Universe if DS9 hadn't already wrote them into a corner there.) Picard's Trophy Room was awesome too. The only things that gave me pause while watching was that this new Borg Queen's makeup job looked worse than what the franchise did 25 years ago with First Contact, and also the scene where Elnor murdered a bunch of guards was laughably kinda bad, but it's ok b/c they're space Nazis. Both minor quibbles.Watching this week's ep now. Fuck. The scenes with Q and Picard are
*I'll still never forgive Breaking Bad as a show for bringing him on and then completely misusing his talents.
You are Number Six.