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Star Trek: Picard - Make It So Engage Earl Grey Hot

is there any real reason why the Borg Queen would have to be the same actress over and over again?
I mean, there's previous franchise precedent for the switcheroo when Voyager cast somebody different to play the Queen during some of its episodes. But I assume they were just lowballing Krigg or something because they brought her back for the series finale which was the right decision since Krigg is great and iconic in that role. I'm just sayin' it's a weird decision. Unless she's like a secret weirdo or is hard to work with, idgi.
 

Büge

Arm Candy
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NGL, that's uh. That's a choice. Since Alison Krigg is still out there and would probably love to get paid to be the Borg Queen again. Made more awkward since I keep seeing Krigg show up for their virtual convention-ish stuff.
 
I'm sorry! It's just a weird decision. Krigg is out there, and Star Trek: Picard isn't so cash strapped they can't bring them on. Of course they could handwave a different actor easily, like they already have done so before. But it's just weird. Especially given the history of the show before where they've brought back other legacy characters and their actors just fine, except for that one specific time with Icheb. It makes me wonder if something similarly messy is the cause of this or if they're just lazy and want someone younger and sexier which is annoying.

Important Star Trek Picard update: Here's a picture from on-set of Picard's food replicator menu:

Oh, also Season 2 of this just wrapped up filming, and they're already gonna start work on Season 3.
 
I’m fine with it. Actually, happy even! Time travel plots, especially to visit contemporary times, is a Star Trek staple. Every good classic Trek did it. (TOS visited the 30s and the 60s; the TOS movies visited the 80s; DS9 visited the 2020s and the 50s; VOY visited the 90s; TNG used the holodeck to visit the 30s among other time periods and also visited First Contact; ENT visited the 00s.) People groan about Trek abusing time travel mechanics, but pretty much every single time Trek used time travel like this has been some of the franchise’s best moments. I’m… optimistic!

Also, I’ll be shocked if they spend the entire season in contemporary times. I’m willing to bet Q’s continuing trial will only be part of the season and they’ll either find other things to do, or Q will have them do other things as well.
 
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SpoonyBard

A Bard Named SPOONY
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Hopefully. At the very least the bigger plot this season actually feels comprehensible out of the gate compared to S1 and its mystery box robot prophecy Data fractals.

Also I wonder if most of the season taking place in an altered timeline is how they're going to address not dealing with Picard being a Robutt? Feels very DIS S2 in handwaving away disliked plot points from S1 but I'm ok with that.
 
Also I wonder if most of the season taking place in an altered timeline is how they're going to address not dealing with Picard being a Robutt? Feels very DIS S2 in handwaving away disliked plot points from S1 but I'm ok with that.
This makes sense but it wasn't my first thought. Rather, I thought it was likely about handwaving away responsibility in general for crafting world-building lore for the 25th Century. I liked a lot of what S1 was doing in that regard, but most of it was just background flavor for a bunch of character studies that never felt properly/fully utilized. And maybe the show runners decided to shift gears and allow for a more disposable setting to keep doing those character studies that the show was obviously far more invested in, and allow some other future property to explore the 25th Century in earnest.
 

SpoonyBard

A Bard Named SPOONY
(He/Him)
Also, I've seen some people dump on this moment, but I kind of love that Picard just finally tells Q that he's too old for his bullshit.

Is it out of character? For Captain Picard of TNG, yes. For Crotchety Old Man Picard? It works.

My thanks to Lower Decks for paving the way for this long deserved retort with Mariner's Q bullshit comment.
 
Is it out of character? For Captain Picard of TNG, yes. For Crotchety Old Man Picard? It works.
Honestly, it's perfectly in character for Captain Picard of TNG as well, IMO. It's just that back then, he had responsibilities to adhere to and thousands of people whose lives he was directly responsible for at any given moment. Pissing off an immortal god would have been a bad play, no matter how much he felt like telling Q off. (And he still did several times, let's not forget!) Just he's retired now and can say whatever he wants, it's great. For as much as it makes some people feel uncomfortable, I've adored this interpretation of the character because as someone who spends way too much of their time thinking about all the little mineuta of Star Trek, the evolution of this specific character has felt very genuine and been very entertaining.
 

Kirin

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I thought it was likely about handwaving away responsibility in general for crafting world-building lore for the 25th Century. I liked a lot of what S1 was doing in that regard, but most of it was just background flavor for a bunch of character studies that never felt properly/fully utilized. And maybe the show runners decided to shift gears and allow for a more disposable setting to keep doing those character studies that the show was obviously far more invested in, and allow some other future property to explore the 25th Century in earnest.

This seems like a thing that happens commonly to big franchises that hit beloved/legendary status but have lost their original creators, where new writers just shy away from the fraught prospect of actually laying down What Happens Next in Actual Main Continuity and will do anything else so that they have room to play around the margins without pissing off the millions of fans with Opinions about what should or shouldn't happen in the Main Plot. And honestly given the current media environment I can't say I blame 'em, but it can still be a bit disappointing.

(The confirming counterpoint of course being that Star Wars actually went for it, and boy did people have Opinions.)

((The one I'll forever be really disappointed about, though, is Suikoden.))
 
Yeah I think you’re right. And I was definitely very apprehensive about their direction and what they were doing in S1 as well. (I did NOT like the idea of codifying the destruction of Romulus, or perma-offing Data, or having Picard resign in shame, or all the other big lore bits of PIC. But I came around on most of it because they managed to do interesting things with most of it.) I really hope we don’t get a Suikoden situation either. That is kinda what DISCO S3 is when you think about it. Go so far into the future that no matter what happens out there, it doesn’t really have any effect on what happens in the 22nd-25th Centuries.
 
I liked Picard Season 1 a lot, so I will check out Season 2.

However, the alternate earth with authoritarian government feels like well tread and tired ground. I'm not happy with that reveal, but I'll give Season 2 a chance.
 
I liked Picard Season 1 a lot, so I will check out Season 2.

However, the alternate earth with authoritarian government feels like well tread and tired ground. I'm not happy with that reveal, but I'll give Season 2 a chance.
I mean we already had Mirror Universe, and future earth being not in fed. It's like, enough already.
 
See, you guys are coming from a, "I've seen this one before :sleep:" perspective. And I get that. But I for one, will never get tired of nor ask Star Trek to stop telling fascists to gtfo thru sci-fi allegories. Esp when being able to say that one last time in the current geopolitical climate was Patrick Stewart's primary motivations for returning from Elba to reprise his iconic role.
 
Oh I agree - but! Will they do anything with them? So Picard returns, and the federation's shortcomings are put at feet of a Romulan spy, and the plot of the show veers wildly from that topic to giant plant bulbs planet and reaper invasion. Very disappointing because the first several eps of Picard are like, fantastic.

Mirror Universe is fun, but it really becomes an indictment on Lorca more than anything. I'll say it's great in s1 where Burnham at critical moment picks the Paragon option, not the renegade option as she had in the pilot. But by having everything in alternate timelines, universes etc, it's a fun pocket they can go to have characters vamp (Killy, etc) but in actuality not deal with the issues.

Anyway my power rankings for new trek stuff

1. Disc S1
2. Lower Decks S1
3. Disc S3
4. Disc S2
5. PIC S1

Lower Decks S2 will be up high too, will leave judgment until season is finished
 
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