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We're all just here for the deep Urza lore - Talking about Magic: The Gathering!

Bulgakov

Yes, that Russian author.
(He/Him)
Everyone should bow down in respect to @gahitsu, champion of today's TT draft! We ended up with 7 players and it appears a good time was had by all. Hoping to do a repeat sometime before the end of the year.
 

lincolnic

can stop, will stop
(he/him)
Hopefully next time I don't flood out in two out of three matches! Big thanks to Bulgakov for organizing and everyone for playing, I had a blast.
 

Will Morningstar

catboy shoujo villain
(xe/xir, they/them)
Ooh, I haven't been able to draft in ages. For this kind of MTGA-based model of draft, what does the starting investment look like?
 

Bulgakov

Yes, that Russian author.
(He/Him)
Ooh, I haven't been able to draft in ages. For this kind of MTGA-based model of draft, what does the starting investment look like?

You can do it for $0 + time....the main thing you need is to play MTGA long enough to build up a decent sized collection of cards and wild cards. You can also buy packs if you want, and that costs about what you'd expect a Magic habit to cost (i.e. a bottomless pit that will take all the money you want to throw at it). If you want more details, let me know and I'm happy to discuss.
 
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lincolnic

can stop, will stop
(he/him)
Has anyone else been playing Zendikar standard so far? I don't know about this one. We're only three days in, but Lotus Cobra + Omnath seems just as broken as Companion was. I feel like even when Eldraine came out, it took at least a little bit of time before everyone realized Oko was the best thing, but this seems pretty obvious right out of the gate. I don't think I played against a single non-ramp opponent today, though I was able to take advantage of that by switching to Gruul Adventures to farm some wins.

On the flipside, I've enjoyed the handful of drafts I've done so far! I had one 7-2 run with Dimir Rogues, nothing else spectacular so far. I drafted a sweet Landfall deck with Phylanth, but it went 1-3 because I never drew any lands in my first two games. I wanted to play more games with that deck!
 

Bulgakov

Yes, that Russian author.
(He/Him)
Has anyone else been playing Zendikar standard so far? I don't know about this one. We're only three days in, but Lotus Cobra + Omnath seems just as broken as Companion was. I feel like even when Eldraine came out, it took at least a little bit of time before everyone realized Oko was the best thing, but this seems pretty obvious right out of the gate. I don't think I played against a single non-ramp opponent today, though I was able to take advantage of that by switching to Gruul Adventures to farm some wins.
Ramp definitely seems to be name-of-the-game right now in constructed! I am hopeful it will either calm down or alternative strategies will emerge soon, because it's not my favorite way to play, personally!
 

lincolnic

can stop, will stop
(he/him)
Ramp definitely seems to be name-of-the-game right now in constructed! I am hopeful it will either calm down or alternative strategies will emerge soon, because it's not my favorite way to play, personally!
The good news is that if you like aggro, it's a great time to reduce some life totals to 0! I rode that Gruul deck into mythic today, most games were over by turn 5. Seems like the ramp decks are mostly teching against each other in the sideboard and not doing too much anti-aggro yet.

I'm curious to see if the new set makes any impact on Historic, I haven't really seen anyone talking about it. I was more or less exclusively playing Historic before rotation, but I wanted to give the new Standard environment a look while it was fresh.
 

lincolnic

can stop, will stop
(he/him)
Yeah, I was just talking to a friend of mine about this yesterday. Even pre-rotation, without any bans we could've had a deck with Wilderness Reclamation, Once Upon a Time, Growth Spiral, Uro, Oko, Ugin, and Field of the Dead all at once. I want to find someone from their Play Design team and just ask them what that was like.
 

shivam

commander damage
(he/hiim)
what's funny is when people come to me like 'yo, this was broke af in standard, ban it in edh'
 
(Yes, this is “Tangent Vector” from the old forums.)

Anybody have advice for somebody who is coming into MtG for the first time at 40, who has a family, kids, and all the other commitments that make things like “Friday Night Magic” a hard sell?

I suspect this is cliche but I’ve been dealing with the stress of the pandemic with shopping. Our kids were already collecting Pokémon cards, and I’ve certainly been buying more of those. My wife and I took the dive into Magic with Core 2021 (she’s had some cards when younger, but didn’t hang onto them). At this point I’m already buying whole booster boxes for each set that releases (plus some older ones), and I realize I’m in deep financially without actually having played much.

My wife is happy to play (and go buy/collect her own cards) but also has plenty of other hobbies. We also know that we are both pretty competitive, and 1v1 games between the two of us often lead to hurt feelings. (It doesn’t help that getting mana screwed is super frustrating because you feel like you aren’t even getting to play the game)

My son is excited about playing, but playing against an 8yo with an allowance and a few card packs isn’t really fair for an adult who can research strategies and buy singles. We stick to preconstructed decks to keep things more fair (he likes the core 2021 planeswalker decks and the Game Night boxes).

We have family friends who are in the target audience for MtG (we already play D&D with them), but they’ve been explicit that they are happy to play the game but aren’t interested in buying anything, which gets back to precons or maybe JumpStart.

How do people with families manage this stuff? Do you just get lucky and have close friends who are already into the game? Do you go ahead and ditch your family to go to your LGS? Do you play MtG:A with randos?

Honestly, if there were some kind of single-player buy-it-once-then-you-are-done MtG video game that would be a better fit for me. Barring that, I’m trying to find a way for a busy person to play this game without too much awkwardness and inconvenience for my family.

(Ugh... reading that I realize I’m a man in my 40s basically asking an Internet forum for advice on how to make friends.)
 
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Büge

Arm Candy
(she/her)
So glad that no one here is posting angry screeds about the latest Secret Lair boondoggle. That kind of negativity ain't what we need.
 

shivam

commander damage
(he/hiim)
god, please no.

also, i play most of my games on video chat over discord, or use jumpstart with my wife
 

Büge

Arm Candy
(she/her)
I'm sorry people are dogpiling you and the other CAG members over this, Shivam. Seems like any time Wizards makes a bad decision, it's you all that get the stick for it.

You ever want to play some webcam magic sometime? I keep it p. casual.
 
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Mr Bean

Chief Detective
Honestly I'm more salty about the lack of Jumpstart availability than the Secret Lair kerfuffle. I understand why people are upset and all, but it just feels like a massive overreaction from where I'm sitting.

I do wish I could find some Jumpstart for regular price instead of getting gouged for double. I know the pandemic screwed with the print run, but I keep waiting for WotC to print more and it just doesn't seem to be happening.
 
Yeah, it seems like Jumpstart was meant to be an entry-level product to get new players in (and I was definitely excited about it as a new player), but then the pricing was exactly the kind of thing that would scare people off.
 
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