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Top 50 Duos: Counting the Seconds

SabreCat

Sabe, Inattentive Type
(he "Sabe" / she "Kali")
Somewhen in my distant memory, I saw a bit in a British comedy something-or-other on TV.
Scene: outdoors, daytime, a lot with the vibe of a junkyard. Windy? A dilapidated building, possibly chain link fence? A working-class fellow stands left of center.

Man: D'you like eggs?
(beat)
D'you like bacon?
(beat)
Then come see my collection. The Eggs & Bacon Museum.

To this day I know not in what context this sketch appeared, nor have I ever encountered anyone else who remembers seeing it. But I frequently make reference to it when the topic of bacon & eggs arises, a private joke!
 

Issun

Chumpy
(He/Him)
I had a couple of food combos on my list, though this was not one of them. Do like me some eggs and bacon for breakfast, though, with toast, coffee and orange juice to round it out.
 

RT-55J

space hero for hire
(He/Him + RT/artee)
I like eggs myself, but there are many other dishes they synergize with better than bacon imo.
 

YangusKhan

does the Underpants Dance
(He/Him/His)
I did not have this food combo on my list but it's probably because I can nevee eat just Eggs & Bacon together; there's gotta be like hasbrowns, or it's in a sandwich, or it's part of a scramble/omellete...
 

Kirin

Summon for hire
(he/him)
I didn't have bacon and eggs on my list, but I did have a... rather *similar* entry as one of my only two food pairings.

As for actual breakfast, I usually don't have them since I don't generally feel like cooking first thing in the morning and just have cereal, but I do enjoy them and sometimes get them for brunch if I'm eating out. Though I'm more apt to go for an omelette or at least a cheese scramble rather than a plain fried egg. Or Eggs Benedict! Yum.
 

Torzelbaum

????? LV 13 HP 292/ 292
(he, him, his)
Bacon and eggs are an excellent duo/combo but didn't make my list. I'm not a morning person so I don't usually eat breakfast very often. And like others when I do eat breakfast I usually need some other items to round out the plate.

The question is do you like your eggs runny, firm, scrambled, over easy? And bacon? You like it a bit meaty/floppy or do you like it so crunchy it snaps in two.
I generally prefer my eggs firm or scrambled. I like my bacon in the limbo of being slightly crispy but still a little chewy.

 

Baudshaw

Unfortunate doesn't begin to describe...
(he/him)
Walter and Jesse were good picks; it's a shame I didn't put them on my list.

Bacon and Eggs are honestly an overrated duo. Too much grease for my taste.
 

Johnny Unusual

(He/Him)
47

Wayne & Garth

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48 Points, 2 Lists, Highest Vote: #1 Kishi

Source: Saturday Night Live

Duo-Type: co-hosts, co-besties

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Wayne Campbell is a party-loving metalhead from Aurora, Illinois and host of the public access show Wayne’s World, that he films in his basement. On the show, he talks about rock and roll, partying, his personal life and pop culture in general. As host, Wayne likes often to mock the guest he has on or trick them into making fools of themselves, though occasionally he’ll freak out over a guest who leaves him star-struck. Wayne host the show with his friend Garth Algar

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Garth Algar is a party-longing metalhead from Aurora, Illinois and co-host of Wayne’s World with his best friend Wayne Campbell. The two went to high school together, which is also when they started the show. Garth is a bit more awkward than Wayne and is sometimes a little insecure about looking uncool in front of him (particularly changing his story when Wayne looks incredulously at a claim) but despite that he loves to party with him.


The two co-costs originally created the program as high school students though later episodes would imply they have graduated (though Wayne still lives with his parents). Often, the two would talk hypotheticals, pop culture and their own lives, as well as Wayne busting his best friends chops. Despite that, the duo are almost always on good terms with one another and Garth tends to take the usually good-natured teasing well. Moreover, on most issues, the two tend to be on the same page in their discussions and enjoy metal and hard rock. Despite Wayne enjoying mocking people on his show, he and Garth generally take positive attitudes and try to spread positive vibes, though don’t beat around the bush when they think something sucks.

Though the character of Wayne Campbell originally appeared on Wayne’s Power Minute, a sketch for the Canadian Program “It’s Only Rock n Roll” (where “Dieter” also originated), the character gained widespread popularity on the iconic sketch comedy series Saturday Night Live where Dana Carvey played his sidekick Garth. Despite Mike Myers not wanting to have another character in the sketch, the two ended up creating a successful pair, with several sketches a year featuring the duo (the 89-90 season had the most with six). Eventually their popularity spawned a 1992 film that was a commercial and financial success)


Back in the day Mike Myers was my favourite SNL performer. He seemed genuinely hip and funny and though he’s fallen down the wayside with ill-considered sequels and falling into his worst instincts (juvenile humour, repurposing playground jokes), Wayne’s World really made me see comedy could be cool. I think what works about the duo is the 90s was kind of an era of ironic detachment humour yet the characters of Wayne and Garth, while often sarcastic, also often seemed like likeable dudes that it would be fun to be around. It never felt like a takedown on metalhead culture, a trope that seemed played out by the time these characters appeared but were comedic characters who also happened to be metalheads. Perhaps the characters got too big too fast; I definitely remember more of the big celebrity appearances then the ones where they are dudes hanging out in their basement. But still, there’s a reason they caught on; it’s not just the catchphrases (the element of the characters that falls the flattest on rewatch), it’s the idea that these goofballs are people we like to watch. Though they can sometimes be weird and awkward, it feels neither like the joke is on them nor are they the smartest guys in the room, they are just decent dudes doin’ their goofs.

Iconic Moment:

 

JBear

Internet's foremost Bertolli cosplayer
(He/Him)
I ended up cutting Wayne & Garth on my way down to 25, but they're a fun pair of cool dudes. They'll always have a special place in my heart for the night that we went to see Wayne's World in theatres. My cousin and I were 10, so we had his older sister chaperone us, but then when we got to the theatre we were told that although she was old enough to enter herself, she wasn't old enough to take us in with her. So my father, who drove us there, and who even now has seen fewer than a half-dozen films in theatres in his entire life, had to sit through Wayne's World. To say that he was bemused would be an understatement.
 

Kirin

Summon for hire
(he/him)
Nice. Wayne and Garth just *barely* survived the cuts on my list, but my low vote was enough to sneak them in the Top 50 with Kishi's #1! Just a fun pair of chill dudes, and while I guess the Wayne character did start solo, it's hard now to imagine them as anything but a duo.
 

Johnny Unusual

(He/Him)
46

Rock & Roll

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49 Points, 2 Lists, Highest Vote: #4 Pombar

Source: The Music World

Duo-Type: Sounds

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With a migration of black Americans into the urban centers of the United States in the 1920s and 30s, giving rise to jazz and blues music. This would lead to the creation of to rhythm and blues in the 1940s, which for a time was referred to as “race music.” In 1948, the name “blues and rhythm” was then used, followed by rhythm and blues. Soon, it became apparent this wasn’t just “black music for black people” as a white audience, particularly white teens, became huge buyers of R&B albums within the U.S. (about 40% in one Los Angeles survey).

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Though an extant genre before hand, country music gained great popularity during the Great Depression, particularly in the form of “singing cowboy” movies and “barn dance” radio programs particularly the Grand Ole Opry. With it, more subgenres of country became popular such as western swing (later referred to as rockabilly, which was soon overshadowing the once popular big band genre of music) and honky tonk.


The origins of rock & roll itself is hotly debates amongst music historians. What is agreed with (generally) is that it emerged from the American south with ties to R&B and country and that it was born from a meeting of European instrumentation and African musical tradition. Radio stations making all forms of music available to the people, the development of gramophones and more white musicians taking up jazz and swing music also played roles in the genres increased popularity. There is a debate over whether rock & roll is a true cultural collision of “white” and “black” music or if it was more that rhythm and blues was just re-branded for white audiences. What the first rock song is also up for debate, particularly what counts as “rock” or “rhythm and blues” with some claiming it “Rocket 88” and others suggesting earlier rocking music like the tune “Rock Woogie” from 1945.

Musicians like Elvis Presley (the “King of Rock and Roll”) helped propelled rock to become THE genre of a generation and within the 50s and 60s, the genre continued to evolve, mutate and gain popularity and soon real “rock stars” began to emerge. Rock and roll became more than just a genre, it became associated with a sense to raucousness, a joie de vivre and to many older generations “loudness”. In the 1960s, there was a sense of revolution that was also expressed through rock, no longer simply “party music”, it became representative of the younger generation. In the 1970s, heavy metal, hard rock and punk took centre stage with a mix of defiant, sometimes nihilistic attitudes and pushing for even louder and more experimental sounds. The sound of rock continued to evolve, though there is often a delineation for some between “rock” and “pop”.


Of course, defining the genre is not so easy to say what it “is” or “isn’t”. Is it an attitude, a sound, instrumentation? Like porn, it can be easy to say we know it when we see it but I think that the thing about genre is it can try to pigeonhole something much bigger and more complex. But I think in our minds we have an idea of what rock should be, even if we don’t all agree. To me, I think there’s a sense of exuberance, maybe some defiance, trying to make your feelings as big and loud as possible or if it playing more subtle, in a way that you can almost feel it in your body. There’s an idea of “no compromise” and of course while that’s not realistic nor really reflective of the much more complicated history of rock, I think in our blood, we would love to be considered “rock and roll”.

Iconic Moment:

 

SabreCat

Sabe, Inattentive Type
(he "Sabe" / she "Kali")
ah fun!
This phrase came to mind during my free association, but I'm music history illiterate to the point where I couldn't really say what the two sides of the ampersand even were, as a "duo", so I didn't list it.
 

RT-55J

space hero for hire
(He/Him + RT/artee)
dang this one reminds me of a certain duo i missed on my list. oh well.
 

Issun

Chumpy
(He/Him)
Didn't think of Rock 'n Roll, but that's clever. White teens glomming on to black music is definitely a thing about postwar America that has continued to this day, though.

Didn't think of Wayne and Garth, though I don't know that I would have had room for them if I had thought of them. They were fun, and they introduced a whole new generation to Bohemian Rhapsody.
 

Torzelbaum

????? LV 13 HP 292/ 292
(he, him, his)
I had Wayne & Garth and Rock & Rule Roll on my initial list of candidates but they didn't make it on my final one. I like W&G but I haven't really thought about them much since the 90s*. W&G are a pair that could easily fall into the category of host and sidekick (or 2nd banana / fiddle) but Garth does seem to be more of an equal to Wayne even though Wayne is usually the one "driving" with Garth riding shotgun. So I guess that's what makes them a duo more than anything else.

Hey, did you know that Dana Carvey based the Garth character on his older brother, Brad?

R & R (but not that kind) is interwoven with US and World history from its initial heyday and during the 50s nostalgia of the 80s (which is when I was mostly introduced to it and when I'm sure most of you were also introduced to it). Being part of my youth and giving me a feeling of connecting with my parents' pasts is why I am fond of classic rock and roll (and other music from that era) even with all of the messy history behind it (which I never learned about until much later).

A song about where rock and roll came from:

*Fuck, I'm old...
 
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Johnny Unusual

(He/Him)
45

Ash Ketchum & Pikachu

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50 Points, 2 Lists, Highest Vote: #9 @Baudshaw

Source: Pokémon

Duo-Type: A Boy and his Fight Rat

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Ash Ketchum is a Pokemon trainer from… I dunno, some village? I’m sure he never tells us repeatedly during the course of the series. Wanting to be the very greatest, like no one ever has been, wants to be tops in the competitive sport of Pokemon training, usually demonstrated by making Pokemon fight for sport. (It’s OK. They are just “unconscious”). What are Pokemon? They are animal-like monsters, usually small (not “fit in your pocket” small, but small) with amazing powers that are essentially the backbone of society. Optimistic but perhaps a little naïve, Ash has a lot of work ahead of him. And he’ll need strong Pokémon. Such as…

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Pikachu is a Pikachu, the “electric mouse” Pokémon. Pikachu is the last Pokémon that Pokémon researcher Dr. Oak has in stock for any beginning Pokémon trailers (with most starting with either Squirtle, Charmander or Bulbasaur). This particular Pikachu is also very fierce and independent, to the point it refuses to go into it’s Pokéball, the little ball that Pokémon living with humans are living in when not needed.


Pikachu ends up being Ash’s only Pokemon option and initially the two are combative in their relationship but when Ash risks his life to save Pikachu, Pikachu reciprocates by saving him and soon the two are close partners. Pikachu becomes Ash’s go-to Pokémon and though many Pokémon would come and go in Ash’s collection and friends would enter and exit his friend group, Ash would always have Pikachu by his side. Their relationship is close enough that when Pikachu decides he doesn’t want to evolve to Raichu, Ash ends up supporting them.

Though Ash is modelled after “Pokémon Trainer” from the first game, who is the player representative character, and Pikachus originate in the game, these specific characters in the franchise are unique to the anime. Ash manages to end up becoming an experienced trainer and earning many gym badges with Pikachu usually being his most valuable player. Ash participates in many tournaments and while the title of Pokémon master would constantly allude him, the two almost always made a good showing (though he would famously embarrass himself with his poorly trained Charizard refusing to fight for him in the tournament). Though Pikachu and Ash get along well, there are definitely times Pikachu, when annoyed by his owner, is willing to shock him.


I remember watching the first couple of seasons in high school (I kind of tapped out after the first big tournament) and enjoying it, particularly the first major arc with Ash not only losing but having to face his limitations as a trainer. These two characters are the leads but I think it works because Ash, being a kid, can sometimes be a childish and even obnoxious lead character, for all his good qualities. The first episode does a good job establishing why the two become so close later on and I always think that classic origin story based on willing to be brave for each other informs what I saw in the series. =

Iconic Moment:

Look, this isn’t a spoiler because you aren’t going to start sitting through 1232 episodes of Pokemon JUST NOW so look, finally Ash earns the title of Pokémon Master.

 

YangusKhan

does the Underpants Dance
(He/Him/His)
I had considered ranking this one in my list but ultimately they were cut. The anime came out when I was the perfect age (late-elementary/middle school) and some of those early episodes were real gut-punchers!
 

JBear

Internet's foremost Bertolli cosplayer
(He/Him)
The anime came out when I was the perfect age (late-elementary/middle school) and some of those early episodes were real gut-punchers!
I was old enough to be embarrassed about watching it, but Bye Bye Butterfree and that other early ep where Pikachu almost leaves left me a sobbing mess on first viewing.
 

Johnny Unusual

(He/Him)
44

They Might Be Giants

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51 Points, 2 Lists, Highest Vote: #1 Kirin

Source: The Music World

Duo-Type:

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John Flansburgh (sometimes also called Flansy or Flans) is a musician and lyricist. Flansburgh learned to play guitar while at George Washington University in Washington DC while working as a parking attendant and finally got his arts degree at Pratt Institute in New York. But it was back in Lincoln-Sudbury Regional High School where he met…

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John Linnell is a musician and lyricist. As a child, he attributed the album Songs of the Pogo (based on the comic strip of the same name) with introducing him to his own musical sensibility

His family moved to Lincoln, Massachusetts where he attended Lincoln-Sudbury Regional High School and worked on the student paper The Promethean with John Flansburgh. He also attended University of Massachusetts Amherst studying English before dropping out to pursue a career in music. With John Flansburgh.


Initially, the duo started under the names El Grupo De Rock and Roll and one they claim is so bad they promised to tell no one “Not even our children.” Eventually, they took the name They Might Be Giants, a title of a 1971 film in turn taken from the text of Don Quixote (in reference to the windmills that the title characters imagines as giants). They began in 1982 with Flansburgh on guitar and Linell on accordion and saxophone with a drum machine as a backing track. Do two personal misfortunes, the duo took a break in 85 but that lead to creativity; the duo started recording music for each other on their answering machines which evolved into dial-a-song, where they put ads in papers with their answering machine number so they would have new tracks and demos often. Dial-a-song became a big hit continued until 2008 though was reactivated as a toll-free number in 2015.

In 1986 things got even better when the two started to get real success with their first self-titled album. Soon songs like Don’t Let’s Start and Ana Ng gained college radio success and with 1989’s the Flood they went platinum, almost exclusively to the popular of the catchy single Birdhouse in your Soul. The band gained even more exposure to a younger audience in an episode of Tiny Toon Adventures, where the show created music videos for two of their popular songs: Particle Man and a cover of the Four Lads’ Istanbul (Not Constantinople). The band were now legends in pop; not household names but having an appeal both to children (they would go onto produce music for many TV series and cartoon projects including Malcolm in the Middle, The Daily Show and the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse to name a VERY few (they get around) and ended up recruiting a larger band for live shows.


They Might Be Giants is a band that even in the world of college rock feels like it has a different appeal than most both in the playful, often silly sound and unusual subject matter. Few songs about love and heartbreak here (though still sometimes there), the focus is on weird hypotheticals, history, false history, and weird ideas. It really does feel like the creators are following their muses and though a lot of humour exists within the songs, few of them are out and out “comedy songs”. Still, you can kind of get their vibe with the company they keep; both they and occasional collaborators the Brothers Chaps (SHIT! GUYS! NO ONE REMEMBERED TO VOTE FOR THE BROTHERS CHAPS!) come from a real DiY background. This isn’t a band that will get drowned in a wall-of-sound, it’s a duo who are mostly looking for the music that interests them and doing new, exciting and overall fun things with it.

Iconic Moment:

This song just gets stuck in your head.

 

RT-55J

space hero for hire
(He/Him + RT/artee)
It's hard to get a proper sense of scale from these pictures, but I'm pretty sure these two are not actually giants, even if they might have been.
 

Kirin

Summon for hire
(he/him)
So yesterday I helped sneak another voter's #1 onto the list, today someone else helped sneak on mine. (Thanks, someone!)

Once it occurred to me that John and John were totally on theme, they went straight to the top of my list and stayed there. All time fave music act from about 1991 to today. Also, just danged impressive that they lasted as pals and creative partners for over four decades now and still going strong.
 

Issun

Chumpy
(He/Him)
I would have been flabbergasted had TMBG not ended up on a Talking Time list for which they were eligible.
 

Johnny Unusual

(He/Him)
43

Grilled Cheese & Tomato Soup

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52 Points, 2 Lists, Highest Vote: #4 Caithness

Source: The Culinary World

Duo-Type: Toasty and wet

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A grilled cheese sandwich, also called a toasted sandwich or a cheese toastie, is a sandwich where cheese is placed between two slices of bread, usually with a form of cooking fat on the outside, then cooked until the bread browns and the cheese melts. It began as “the cheese dream”, an open-faced cheese sandwich that gained popularity in the Great Depression. More conventional grilled cheese emerged in World War II with the US government reporting navy cooks broiling cheese-filled sandwiches.

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Tomato Soup is a soup made with tomatoes as the main ingredient. Though commonly smooth in texture, tomato soup can also be chunky or creamy and can also contain other ingredients (chicken and veggies are popular). The first printed tomato soup recipe appeared in 1857’s New Cookery Book and in 1897, Campbell’s soup introduced canned condensed tomato soup which help make it more popular. There are also variants for tomato soup such as gazpacho, a Spanish soup served cold for summer eating.


Though we can find the origins of both dishes, how they became a stalwart duo is not quite clear. I would guess that tomato soup was already popular and probably relatively affordable in the Great Depression when grilled cheese started taking off. I would also not be surprised if they were just served together in cafeterias in WWII. But I can say neither with certainty.

Generic canned tomato soup is… in my opinion, much better as an ingredient than a course unless you start mixing other stuff in (I always am put off by the off-pinkish colour). But a really good home made or restaurant made tomato soup will go wonderfully with it. You can eat them separately and enjoy the warmth filling your body or you can dip your grilled into the soup to sop up some extra flavour.


Now in all honesty, I didn’t grow up with the duo. I’ve always been a big grilled cheese fan since I started cooking for myself (though I have a habit picking too-thick bread slices since I don’t buy Wonder Bread-type breaks) but I’ve only had the duo a few times in restaurants. It’s a perfect and simple lunch time treat, especially for a chilly day.

Iconic Moment:

I can’t think of a specific one. I guess get a grilled cheese and tomato soup from a food truck.
 
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