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The DC Comics TV & Movie Thread - A Thread for Talking about Detective Comics Comics Television Shows and Movies
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Everything looks pretty good (except for Harley lol) I look forward to this.
WBD also announced that the GL show is coming 'soon' and that it's also going to be rebranded an HBO show, and air first on HBO, versus previously as a "MAX Original" -- which seems like a tacit omission that the whole MAX rebrand was a colossal failure.
WBD also announced that the GL show is coming 'soon' and that it's also going to be rebranded an HBO show, and air first on HBO, versus previously as a "MAX Original" -- which seems like a tacit omission that the whole MAX rebrand was a colossal failure.
I haven't been commenting on in, but My Adventures with Superman continues to be simply excellent. Just top tier stuff.
My only real criticism is that this Braniac storyline is going on a bit too long, and I'm never a fan of mind-break storylines in general.
I was thoroughly satisfied with the end of this season of My Adventures with Superman. About the only thing I'm not sold on is the show's version of Lex Luthor, but that is not to say I am out on it, just that he doesn't feel fully formed yet. I applaud the show for not really doing Lex in the first two seasons.
I don't know that I would disagree that the Brainiac storyline went on too long, but I was ultimately satisfied with it. I would have absolutely no problem with it if the show's seasons were a few episodes longer.
I really like, and not just on this show but as a concept in general, the idea of Jimmy Olsen and Supergirl as a couple. Maybe its lazy and I lack imagination, but letting Olsen be the Lois to Kara's Clark has just always made sense to me. Especially given how hard DC has found to keep Jimmy a consistent part of the comics.
I also watched the first two episodes of Kite Man, Hell Yeah!. I have the same problem with it as I do with the Harley Quinn show, which I would say says more about me than the show, but it just misses the mark in a way that really annoys me, no matter how good it might be. I can't really describe it; just something about it does not connect with me and leaves me more frustrated than entertained.
I don't know that I would disagree that the Brainiac storyline went on too long, but I was ultimately satisfied with it. I would have absolutely no problem with it if the show's seasons were a few episodes longer.
I really like, and not just on this show but as a concept in general, the idea of Jimmy Olsen and Supergirl as a couple. Maybe its lazy and I lack imagination, but letting Olsen be the Lois to Kara's Clark has just always made sense to me. Especially given how hard DC has found to keep Jimmy a consistent part of the comics.
I also watched the first two episodes of Kite Man, Hell Yeah!. I have the same problem with it as I do with the Harley Quinn show, which I would say says more about me than the show, but it just misses the mark in a way that really annoys me, no matter how good it might be. I can't really describe it; just something about it does not connect with me and leaves me more frustrated than entertained.
Yeah, I enjoyed S2 quite a lot. Not as much as S1, but plenty enough.
I actually like this Lex a lot. One of the core conceits of this show is that this is a version of Superman at the very beginning of his career. So these are also correspondingly young versions of his adversaries. Which is why Slade Wilson is a crazy hot bishounen dude, and this is what Lex was probably like when he was fresh out of college. And these are the first embers of the eventual burning hate he develops for Superman. It’s a lot of fun.
Big agree on Jimmy & Kara. Also, one divergence from traditional depictions of Superman/his origin that really like is that Krypton didn’t fall because of the star exploding or some kind of environmental catastrophe, it falls this time because it’s imperial ambitions were that self-destructing. The Fall of Krypton has always been used as allegorical commentary on modern society’s ailments. And right now in [current year], this is one of ours. Where our addiction to violence projected against an other is becoming our self destructive downfall. And how the mongers of violence see peace as an existential threat to them.
Anyways good show. Also watched Kite-Man. It’s nowhere near as good as Harley-Quinn, but it still finds ways of being amusing now and then. The difference is just night and day with the characters though. Maybe a whole show about Kite-Man wasn’t as great of an idea.
I actually like this Lex a lot. One of the core conceits of this show is that this is a version of Superman at the very beginning of his career. So these are also correspondingly young versions of his adversaries. Which is why Slade Wilson is a crazy hot bishounen dude, and this is what Lex was probably like when he was fresh out of college. And these are the first embers of the eventual burning hate he develops for Superman. It’s a lot of fun.
Big agree on Jimmy & Kara. Also, one divergence from traditional depictions of Superman/his origin that really like is that Krypton didn’t fall because of the star exploding or some kind of environmental catastrophe, it falls this time because it’s imperial ambitions were that self-destructing. The Fall of Krypton has always been used as allegorical commentary on modern society’s ailments. And right now in [current year], this is one of ours. Where our addiction to violence projected against an other is becoming our self destructive downfall. And how the mongers of violence see peace as an existential threat to them.
Anyways good show. Also watched Kite-Man. It’s nowhere near as good as Harley-Quinn, but it still finds ways of being amusing now and then. The difference is just night and day with the characters though. Maybe a whole show about Kite-Man wasn’t as great of an idea.
Johnny Unusual
(He/Him)
GI Robot? ... Now, that's a name I've not heard in a long time. A long time. (But not in a galaxy far, far away.)
I like the idea and the deep pull. I don't like how they're selling it, but I'll try not to hold that against the show.
I love the characters, though I think it is going to miss having Velcoro (the vampire whose name I know) and the werewolf (whose name I can't remember). I guess I am not a fan of bringing them into Waller's orbit instead of going full weird with SHADE.
That said, as long as they get Frankenstein right, I am not going to complain. Legit one of my favorite DC characters.
That said, as long as they get Frankenstein right, I am not going to complain. Legit one of my favorite DC characters.
It will never stop being really wild that Frankenstein is a DC Superhero.
Why the eff don't we have a Frankenstein DC movie yet
Am I crazy for thinking that a bombastic Frankenstein movie would do gangbusters
Am I crazy for thinking that a bombastic Frankenstein movie would do gangbusters
Johnny Unusual
(He/Him)
I mean he's also a Marvel character...
but also gets surprisingly little play compared to Dracula. Like, his Marvel wiki page is shockingly anemic once it stops detailing his own series.
Batman: Caped Crusader is now up on Amazon Prime Video. All ten episodes of it.
One episode in, it's pretty good. A very grounded, classical take on Batman, but with a lot of little twists. Like the fact that Babs is a defense attorney, or the Penguin is now a thicc dommy mommy. And it's so far, very much a green, 2nd-week-on-the-job Batman so they could make this show last forever if they wanted to slow walk the progression of his and his rogue's gallery's careers. There's a little wonk with the animation (computer-assisted tweening here, some CGI models in disguise there) from time to time, but it generally looks pretty decent. I'm looking forward to watching the rest.
One episode in, it's pretty good. A very grounded, classical take on Batman, but with a lot of little twists. Like the fact that Babs is a defense attorney, or the Penguin is now a thicc dommy mommy. And it's so far, very much a green, 2nd-week-on-the-job Batman so they could make this show last forever if they wanted to slow walk the progression of his and his rogue's gallery's careers. There's a little wonk with the animation (computer-assisted tweening here, some CGI models in disguise there) from time to time, but it generally looks pretty decent. I'm looking forward to watching the rest.
The dialogue and reaction on the cover mystify me. Was this not the point, Dr. Frakenstein?I mean he's also a Marvel character...
but also gets surprisingly little play compared to Dracula. Like, his Marvel wiki page is shockingly anemic once it stops detailing his own series.
I went from fairly interested in Caped Crusader to hyped when I realized that Ed Brubaker and Greg Rucka wrote for it. The first episode is promising. What's funny is that this is exactly the kind of Batman show I think would work in live action, fairly grounded with a focus on crime and corruption, but they'll never do that because WB will only put him in movies.
jpfriction
(He, Him)
I find the (lack of) animation a bit distracting. Like that first scene with the two goons chatting while watching a truck get loaded. The one guy is like a statue. Nailed the tone, though.
I'm six episodes deep and reached the first supernatural story. But even that one is focused entirely on class. All of the Usual Suspects are going to lambaste this show for being Woke, but these kinds of stories is literally the raison d'etre of DC Comics back in the 40s.
One of my reservations about this show coming into it was how bad Harley's costume looked. But I just watched a Harley-centered episode and it was really really good. Like, this version of Harley is actually pretty tops.
Finished season 1 of Caped Crusader and really liked it overall. Took me longer than I'd like to admit to figure out it was full-on a period piece set in the 1940s-ish, but I really appreciated that angle once I saw it. The height of Batman's advanced technology is a grappling hook and a functioning car phone. Without as many gadgets, it gives him fewer outs (although most of the time he still just relies on punchin' mooks real good).
I liked some of the changes they made to typical Batman formula:
~Barbara Gordon as a defense attorney gave her a much more realistic reason to be involved in a lot of the stories, and will be a strong background to her eventually becoming batgirl (presumably).
~Harley Quinn getting to be her own character, out of the Joker's shadow entirely even in a backstory sense, with a whole new twist that actually makes use of her "brilliant psychologist" background. And it keeps her alive for a possible teamup with Joker, or something else entirely.
~Harvey Dent getting a developed character arc with a tragic, kinda heartbreaking resolution, and I liked the subtle twist that his disfigured side was the nice one and his unhurt side was the one going off the deep end. .
~Not sure why the Penguin was a woman - there's nothing wrong with it as a concept, I just couldn't figure out if there was a point to it. I liked the design but they could have done more with the idea..
~Not knowing the character's existence at all, I was pretty surprised when episode 6 introduced an entire-ass ghost as a villain, complete with witchcraft and rituals.
I also like how they bring it back to keep a big focus on Gotham organized crime and crooked cops and such, more street-level stuff. It especially fits with the period piece presentation. At first I was kinda mad at how they had Batman treating Alfred, but then they made it part of his character development arc and I'm OK with it now.
Overall, a really well-done show. I recommend it!
I liked some of the changes they made to typical Batman formula:
~Barbara Gordon as a defense attorney gave her a much more realistic reason to be involved in a lot of the stories, and will be a strong background to her eventually becoming batgirl (presumably).
~Harley Quinn getting to be her own character, out of the Joker's shadow entirely even in a backstory sense, with a whole new twist that actually makes use of her "brilliant psychologist" background. And it keeps her alive for a possible teamup with Joker, or something else entirely.
~Harvey Dent getting a developed character arc with a tragic, kinda heartbreaking resolution, and I liked the subtle twist that his disfigured side was the nice one and his unhurt side was the one going off the deep end. .
~Not sure why the Penguin was a woman - there's nothing wrong with it as a concept, I just couldn't figure out if there was a point to it. I liked the design but they could have done more with the idea..
~Not knowing the character's existence at all, I was pretty surprised when episode 6 introduced an entire-ass ghost as a villain, complete with witchcraft and rituals.
I also like how they bring it back to keep a big focus on Gotham organized crime and crooked cops and such, more street-level stuff. It especially fits with the period piece presentation. At first I was kinda mad at how they had Batman treating Alfred, but then they made it part of his character development arc and I'm OK with it now.
Overall, a really well-done show. I recommend it!
The Gentleman Ghost is more commonly a Hawkman villain. I was a little surprised to see him, but also very happy.
I really liked it? It kinda gave her an edge. She's both this mob boss, but has a much more disarming public face. And I both really liked the idea of 1) her henchmen including her kids - which is a fun twist that I don't really think we've seen very much of that in many comic book villains, and 2) it shows just how ruthless and evil she was to want to murder her own flesh and blood like that.
Yeah, all of this worked pretty well for me. It's not quite a period piece, since there's a lot of stuff that doesn't come close to lining up with how the real 1930s-40s worked. (There's far too little racism and sexism going on; there's no hint of a giant world war happening; mental health/therapy is way too mainstream; etc) I took it more as kind of an elseworld, attempt to kinda recapture the kind of vibe and ideals the original Batman comics had, but with a bit of modern sensibilities thrown in to smooth things out. And it's also Bruce on like, Day 2 of the job. So he's still very new to this, very raw, and a lot like the 2022 film - still figuring out the ropes, what Batman should be, and why he's even doing what he's doing. It's mostly all very well thought out and considered. I really hope they make more, and that it comes out on a much quicker timeline.
I somehow doubt Babs will become a Batgirl in this. She's a defense attorney specifically because she believes in the law, so becoming a masked vigilante would probably require some kind of break of that faith, which I don't think they'll do. Making her a defense attorney seemed like a very calculated decision to draw attention to the value and nobility of that kind of work. And the whole episode with the Robins was there I thought specifically to telegraph to the audience that this is a very early version of Batman, and that there are going to be no sidekicks for him anytime soon. I could however, see her take up more of an Oracle position, where she feeds Batman intel and does detective work of her own in ways that Batman can't.
Oh, also Season 1 of Kite-man is happening and almost over. I don't think it's as good as Harley Quinn, but it's still fun. It's basically just more Harley-Quinn tbh, just with a slightly different main cast that helps keep the jokes fresh. I doubt it'll get another season, since I can't imagine it being as popular as HQ, and also fuck David Zaslav. But it's pretty enjoyable. This most recent episode of Kiteman trying to figure out wtf to do with the Anti-Life Equation was a hoot.
Olli
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It looks pretty good, and I'm probably going to watch it at some point, but I have to wonder why WB is so insistent on making Batman-adjacent live-action TV shows without actually including Batman
Hey all. Creature Commandos began. We're three episodes deep and I really like it a lot.
GI Robot is the hero we need for the modern age.
Also caught up with and finished The Penguin as well. It ended up being a lot better than I thought it was going to be. I remember vague impressions of people not liking the ending, but I thought it was great and couldn't/shouldn't have ended any other way.
GI Robot is the hero we need for the modern age.
Also caught up with and finished The Penguin as well. It ended up being a lot better than I thought it was going to be. I remember vague impressions of people not liking the ending, but I thought it was great and couldn't/shouldn't have ended any other way.
That's weird, the ending was perfect.
Joker 2: I could understand spending $200 million on a Joker sequel, but not THIS Joker sequel.
Joker 2: I could understand spending $200 million on a Joker sequel, but not THIS Joker sequel.
I'll have to read more into the whys and hows, but I think maybe some people wanted Ozwald to be an antihero, or to live up to his rhetoric, or for for Sophia to come out on top and I think I'm sympathetic to those POVs as well, but it's also a situation of not understanding the assignment because this is literally the only way a show like this could have resolved itself.
People have gotten too comfortable with rooting for "antiheroes". He's the Penguin! He's a supervillain!