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Sonic Frontiers
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muteKi
Geno Cidecity
I've seen a few cutscenes here and there, and I definitely agree with this. I get the story is trying to navigate a more serious path than a comedic one like the majority of the games have been since 2006, but it just sounds off in some weird ways. Like someone took a recording and pitched it down a little less than a whole step.
Sprite
(He/Him/His)
I knew putting a comics writer at the helm was the right call.
I'm now on the 3rd island. I stand by my Mario Odyssey analogy, it's very much a game about running around a BIG level, doing all the LITTLE challenges.
It seems like when you beat the boss of a level, there's no way to go back to it to 100% the map or get all the s-ranks on the much more familiar feeling cyberspace mini-levels. That's kind of a weird choice given just how BIG these levels are.
And speaking of big, they might actually be TOO big. Level 3 is set in a massive volcanic island, that's just loaded with huge gaps that require a lot of thinking to get through. It also has a lot of forced 2d segments, to the point where it's actually distasteful. By contrast level 1 had none at all, and level 2 had one very short one. I think it's a deliberate throwback, but it makes navigating the HUGE AREA difficult.
Sonic's voice has grown on me. A little. Not a huge fan but i no longer do a double take.
The boss fights are sick an have music that sounds like midzeroes emo metal which is FUCKING AWESOME.
CURRENT SCORE SONIC OUT OF 10.
It seems like when you beat the boss of a level, there's no way to go back to it to 100% the map or get all the s-ranks on the much more familiar feeling cyberspace mini-levels. That's kind of a weird choice given just how BIG these levels are.
And speaking of big, they might actually be TOO big. Level 3 is set in a massive volcanic island, that's just loaded with huge gaps that require a lot of thinking to get through. It also has a lot of forced 2d segments, to the point where it's actually distasteful. By contrast level 1 had none at all, and level 2 had one very short one. I think it's a deliberate throwback, but it makes navigating the HUGE AREA difficult.
Sonic's voice has grown on me. A little. Not a huge fan but i no longer do a double take.
The boss fights are sick an have music that sounds like midzeroes emo metal which is FUCKING AWESOME.
CURRENT SCORE SONIC OUT OF 10.
SO I WAS WRONG ABOUT SOME SHIT
THERE IS A FAST TRAVEL! You gotta either fish for a scroll or some bullshit (WHICH I HAVEN'T DONE) or clear 100% of the map you're on (WHICH I HAVE DONE.
YOU TOTALLY CAN GO BACK TO OLD LEVELS! All you gotta do is press X on the map screen. I'M A MORON
Violentvixen
(She/Her)
This is high on a list of things I didn't expect to have to do in a Sonic game.
Haven't played this yet but definitely curious about it and seems like people are having fun so it's on my wishlist now for sure.
I have made it to the credits.
Sonic Frontiers is a GOOD videogame with moments of being an AMAZING videogame, that makes a few BAD choices.
It's definitely the best Sonic game since Generations. I don't know if it's the BEST Sonic ever but I think it's definitely the most AMBITIOUS Sonic game by a huge margin.
Big stupid effortpost when I'm not about to pass out.
Sonic Frontiers is a GOOD videogame with moments of being an AMAZING videogame, that makes a few BAD choices.
It's definitely the best Sonic game since Generations. I don't know if it's the BEST Sonic ever but I think it's definitely the most AMBITIOUS Sonic game by a huge margin.
Big stupid effortpost when I'm not about to pass out.
Ludendorkk
(he/him)
Violentvixen
(She/Her)
So I'd somehow missed until now that there's a demo for this on the Switch. It's one of those where you only get to play for 15 minutes but I think I got a feel for the game.
Specifically it felt like playing the Mystic Ruins hub area in Sonic Adventure. It even looked like there was a spot where I could light dash along the rings although I wasn't capable of doing that. Probably get that powerup/skill later or something.
This is not a bad thing, it's just a very specific vibe. This game will definitely stay on my wishlist but more than anything it made me want to hook up my Dreamcast. I think I own Sonic Adventure on Steam too so might just go play that.
Specifically it felt like playing the Mystic Ruins hub area in Sonic Adventure. It even looked like there was a spot where I could light dash along the rings although I wasn't capable of doing that. Probably get that powerup/skill later or something.
This is not a bad thing, it's just a very specific vibe. This game will definitely stay on my wishlist but more than anything it made me want to hook up my Dreamcast. I think I own Sonic Adventure on Steam too so might just go play that.
Regarding this: Actually you're capable of doing it from the start. Lightspeed dash is just mapped to clicking the left stick now.
Anyway, it's nice there's a demo on the Switch and all, but playing that just made me all the more thankful I went for a more powerful platform instead. Switch version looks fine in the cyber space stages where like 3/4ths of the assets were recycled from the 11-year-old Sonic Generations, but things definitely get a lot fuzzier out in the islands.
Speaking of the cyber space stages, things are gonna get weird if (like me) you play a number of the previous 3D Sonics in preparation for this one. Specifically Adventure 2, Unleashed, and the aforementioned Generations.
Violentvixen
(She/Her)
Ah, I bet if I'd had a couple more minutes I would have figured that out. My time was up right after the spot where I noticed that. Oh well.
And yeah, there were a few times where it was hilariously obvious the ground was a texture and Sonic was just plopped on top of it. I don't particularly care but bet that looks better on other consoles.
So, er, this game absolutely rules? I thought it'd be way less fun to run around and explore as Sonic than it actually is - he even controls pretty well, which is wild for a Sonic Team game! I enjoy the exploration, the graphics, the weird music (for a Sonic game), the combat, damn near everything about this game has been a blast so far. Beat the first island and I'm not even ready to move on to the next one yet - I want to 100% the first island, and I intend to. Sonic Frontiers is the first time I saw what happens when your Steam Deck runs out of battery after owning the thing for a year and playing it quite a lot lol (it force closes the game on you, uploads your save to the cloud, and shuts down, fwiw)
I think I'll relisten to your Sonic Frontiers Retronauts episode now that I've actually played the game sometime this weekend. Did you ever end up finishing it? I assume you have, since you've beaten Sonic Heroes more than once, which is Sonic fan masochism even I can't comprehend lol
...........I beat Sonic Heroes with every team and the final story as a kid, and probably did that twice...
I got all the emblems in Sonic Adventure 2 when I was a kid. Kids make poor choices lol
madhair60
Video games
Oh wait no, I never did this. I just beat it once with one of the teams. That was enough
Okay, weird sequence of events:
· I got my first Dreamcast as a gift from my grandparents. I played Soul Calibur on it so hard, the dang thing broke within four days. Due to my grandparents' involvement, I never tried to get a refund/warranty/repair or whatever*. My local buddy had a Dreamcast, though, so I mostly played any games worth playing on his.
· I got my own, second Dreamcast and Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 when going away to college. Due to the Dreamcast's failure, that whole package was probably nine bucks.
· Like a lot of games/franchises at the time, I did not like that Sonic was "now 3-D", and, despite playing Sonic Adventure 2 to full-emblem (but not all top rank) completion, I thought at the time that the Sonic Adventure games were bad.
· Two years later, Sonic Heroes was released. I bought it new, if only for the 90's novelty of a new Sonic game being on the Nintendo Gamecube.
· I still thought Sonic Adventure games were generally bad, and this was like a Sonic Adventure game. I played the whole of Sonic Heroes to completion.
· I thought that, like Sonic Adventure 1 & 2, this game was pretty bad.
· But I beat every last challenge in the game.
· Fast forward a couple of years... or at least long enough that I was no longer a completely broke college student. I picked up the Gamecube rereleases of the Sonic Adventure titles. This was likely well after they were released, and they were probably like $12 used or some such circumstance.
· Hey, wow! Now that I am more used to playing 3-D games, these games are pretty good!
· Maybe I'll try Sonic Heroes again!
· Oh, wait, this is still garbage.
So, for better or worse, I always have to appreciate my own faded bias against 3-D titles, because if I never wrongly disliked Sonic Adventure in the first place, I never would have tolerated Sonic Heroes. And... uh... now I understand Metal Sonic better? I... guess.
Sorry, bad story. No moral.
* I was close with my grandparents. I loved them, and they were very giving people. That said, there was no way they kept the receipt for a videogame system they likely bought in September, and if I was like "oh this expensive gift you bought me broke", they would feel responsible for somehow buying me a broken item, and then likely would blow the full cost of a Dreamcast on another new system that might just break the same exact way again. So, yeah, figured it was in my best interest to just keep the whole "Dreamcast died" thing under my hat.