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Man I got super sick of Bob Mackey's recurring snide jab about this on Retronauts, no idea why this became the de facto mockable factoid
I thought it was because the Mario 2 they did make (released as The Lost Levels in the West as part of the All-Stars Collection) was considered to difficult for Western gamers? Or that was the story going round in the 00s when I heard it.
Didn't Chrono Cross also start out as a draft for FF8? I think I read/heard that at some point.Also Xenogears started out as a rough draft for FF8 before Sakaguchi encourage the devs to splinter off into a new team with an original IP.
Hunh! That explains why Super Bros 6 feels so much like a Mario game despite being a romhack!I was told to put this into the game trivia thread, so here goes: Tiny Toon Adventures on NES reverse-engineered Super Mario Bros. 3 for almost all of the values used for its physics. So if you ever wondered why it feels a ton like that game, there's your answer!
The relevant thread (in French):
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DU CLONAGE CHEZ KONAMI? - upsilandre retrogaming
J'aime beaucoup dénicher les influences entre les jeux et bien entendu les exemples ne manquent pas puisque c’est un peu dans l’ADN du jeu vidéo de s’inspirer les uns les autres. Par exemple, j'ai déjà écrit un billet sur le Star Wars Famicom de Namco...upsilandre.over-blog.com
Indeed, it was from Chess: the Musical.Anthony Head who was Giles in Buffy is brother to Murray Head, who did One Night in Bangkok. The song is about a game (Chess) and also had a music video. So this fits.
C'est très intéressant!I was told to put this into the game trivia thread, so here goes: Tiny Toon Adventures on NES reverse-engineered Super Mario Bros. 3 for almost all of the values used for its physics. So if you ever wondered why it feels a ton like that game, there's your answer!
The relevant thread (in French):
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DU CLONAGE CHEZ KONAMI? - upsilandre retrogaming
J'aime beaucoup dénicher les influences entre les jeux et bien entendu les exemples ne manquent pas puisque c’est un peu dans l’ADN du jeu vidéo de s’inspirer les uns les autres. Par exemple, j'ai déjà écrit un billet sur le Star Wars Famicom de Namco...upsilandre.over-blog.com
I knew this one but it's wild to me that this never got the "Peach"/"Eggman" treatment where the original names are used.Ooo, I've got another oldie: That M. Bison, Balrog and Vega's names were shuffled around when Street Fighter was brought to the US.
I knew this one but it's wild to me that this never got the "Peach"/"Eggman" treatment where the original names are used.
Did they ever do an in-canon in joke on the confusion? The game is over 30 years old, that feels like it must have happened by now.
And as you highlighted there, neither name sets are used in tournament scenes to avoid confusion. So they're "Boxer," "Dictator," and "Claw."Yeah, likewise. It’s doubly weird to me because I feel like if they’d just called Boxer “Bison” and dropped the “M,” nobody would have made the Mike Tyson connection they were so worried about. Then again, I think “Vega” works better as a name for a Spanish character, so <shrug >
next you're going to tell me that Sheng Long isn't realIt's at this point I should mention the hands in the hadouken, I'm sure
Wait, I don't know this one. What about the hands?It's at this point I should mention the hands in the hadouken, I'm sure
Oh, that explains it. After Alpha 2, my familiarity drops.He can lose or throw the mask in 4, 5 and Alpha 3.
https://streetfighter.fandom.com/wiki/Vega#Claw_and_mask_mechanics
That's a pretty clever trick, thanks for pointing it out. 😮I thought the SMB “Bushes are re-colored Clouds” revelation was more insightful than the SMB2/DDP connection. Showed that game devs were resourceful back then, and just how well this specific instance hid in plain sight.