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Her Body and Other Parties by Carmen Maria Machado, May 2023 Book Club Reading

Falselogic

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Her Body and Other Parties is a 2017 short story collection by the writer Carmen Maria Machado. The collection won the Shirley Jackson Award and was a finalist for the National Book Award for Fiction. The story "The Husband Stitch" was nominated for the Nebula Award for Best Novelette. The book contains 8 short stories which vary in style and genre. The stories are all centered on women in contemporary settings.

Carmen Maria Machado is an American short story author, essayist, and critic best known for Her Body and Other Parties, a 2017 short story collection. Machado is frequently published in The New Yorker, Granta, Lightspeed Magazine, and other publications. She has been a finalist for the National Book Award and the Nebula Award for Best Novelette.
 

lincolnic

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Oh hey, this was one of my picks!

I sometimes hear people refer to this as a horror collection, but I don't really think that's the right description. It's been a couple of years since I read this the first time, so my thoughts might change after a fresh pass, but from what I remember the stories aren't scary so much as they are the result of the tiny horrors society inflicts on us all, particularly women, on a daily basis. What I do remember clearly from my first read is that I felt like I'd been allowed to see something that wasn't meant for me, like a little crack had opened in the universe. I'm very much looking forward to reading it again and I hope you folks like it too.
 
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Falselogic

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My library has an audiobook of it and the wait list is short. Hoping to get my hands on it soon.
 

John

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It’s also part of the Amazon Kindle Unlimited service, which apparently I have(!), so that’s borrowed as well.
 

John

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I like these short story collections for book clubs. I can get overwhelmed with a full novel or even novellas, even with a month's time to read. I finished up the first story over the last 24 hours, and I can see breaking up the 8 stories up with a day or so in between to let them simmer.
 

lincolnic

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I'm halfway through this now and I'm very curious to see what you folks think. There's a whole lotta sex in these stories (not sure how spoilery that really is), which I can imagine might be a little off-putting to some, but I would encourage anyone who might be on the fence to keep going. The whole lotta sex isn't really ever the point of the stories, rather it's a framing device to focus on what they're actually about. Like in "The Husband Stitch", so much of the surface story is about what the narrator wants -- women's desires, more broadly -- but in the end it doesn't matter, because she's literally destroyed by the desires of her husband. All of the "good" men in her life lead directly to her death, because society still expects women to sacrifice themselves the moment a man asks for something. Or in "Inventory", what begins as a list of every sexual encounter the narrator's had reveals itself to instead be a story about a woman compulsively making lists to keep her mind occupied as some kind of extinction-level disease ravages humanity. The sex isn't the point, it's a narrative lens.

For some reason I remembered not liking "Especially Heinous" when I read it for the first time a few years ago, but I read it again last night and loved it. It just rises so far above its premise, impossible to predict or describe.
 

John

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For some reason I remembered not liking "Especially Heinous" when I read it for the first time a few years ago, but I read it again last night and loved it. It just rises so far above its premise, impossible to predict or describe.
The tonal and format shift in "Especially Heinous" was enough that I had to give it a couple more days in between the last story, but I'm jumping back in with a more sardonic eye. They read like someone's twitter feed of alternate reality SVU, waiting to see what hijinks Munch gets into.
 

lincolnic

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Oh nice, thanks for that link. Hopefully anyone who's interested but hasn't checked out the book yet will be able to give it a read.

I finished this book a few days ago and I'm really glad I thought of it for the book club. It was just as enjoyable the second time around. The distance of a couple years in between reads meant that I forgot a lot of details, which helped things feel just as alive and unique and transgressive as they did the first time.

A couple of months ago I came across a quote by poet/theorist Anne Carson from an essay called "The Gender of Sound". She said that "the radical otherness of the female is experienced...in the form of women's voices uttering sounds that men find bad to hear. Why is female sound bad to hear?" And while it doesn't necessarily fit for every story, that quote instantly made me think of this book, particularly "The Husband Stitch". The husband in that story is always so shocked and personally affronted whenever the narrator tells him he can't touch the ribbon. I don't really know if I have a point with this, but I wanted to share it as something for folks to consider for their own reads.
 

Violentvixen

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I'm about halfway through (just finished Especially Heinous) and not really sure what to make of this. I've read at least two other versions of the ribbon story so knew that was coming and didn't quite get what made her version unique. Her writing style is very detached (maybe?) and it's making it difficult for me to follow the characters. The list stories (Inventory and Especially Heinous) were interesting but I kind of wish they'd been half as long.

This is interesting and I'm glad I'm reading it but definitely having trouble connecting with this book/author.
 

Falselogic

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I started over the weekend, and was enjoying it until I got to Especially Heinous. Which for me was just a slog. Like others I've heard the ribbon story before but I did like how the story spent so much time in making the protagonist real. The story is usually told from a third person perspective. I do agree though that despite being from first person and spending all the time to develop the character I still can't say much more about the character than that they really enjoyed having sex with their boyfriend then husband. It is perhaps too clinical. Or maybe that is the point. I'm hoping to get through the rest of the collection this weekend.
 

lincolnic

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I have a bunch that I want to say about The Husband Stitch, but it's a little too late tonight for me to start an effortpost. I promise I'll come back and write that soon, it's been a long week already and it's only Wednesday.
 

John

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I finished the last story this morning. It looks like I'm the outlier that really liked Especially Heinous, though I did read it in small bursts over the course of a week. If I rushed through I would've thought it dragged as well.

Detached is a good word, VV. I just noticed that every story outside of Heinous is a first person narrative, but most of them feel like the characters telling the story aren't fully invested in the worlds. I like unreliable narrators and little details that nag at you, something that's left to your interpretation, like in Real Women have Bodies where the roads are just covered in ice, but they haven't had storms recently. Could be they're just in winter, could be that climate change progressed and they're in permafrost, could be post-nuclear winter. Not the point, but the setting helps sell the uneasiness of death/change that the women are going through. I suspect because it's only affecting women there's no major driver to get to the root of it.

I liked The Resident a lot, even if it is a messy ghost story. I don't know if the naming some people/places and blanking out others was successful, but I liked the ambiguity of everyone, especially the protag. When Lydia is done with C____'s bullshit after she brings her the rabbit half that mysteriously appeared, you realize that C___ has probably only been documenting things that put her in a decent, if not good light. Did she leave her wife, or was she kicked out? Is everything a lie just so C___ can remember and focus on past trauma, instead of addressing the current marital problems? Why did The Painter only become Known to C____ after Lydia left the premises? Questions that don't have answers, or really, that have too many answers.

One I didn't get a full picture for was the last story, Difficult at Parties. Is there a straight timeline here with the protagonist coming home from the hospital, going to the party, and then just psychoanalyzing herself for days/weeks as she has mental breaks? We never find out what she was in the hospital for, but I assume violence, possible rape. She starts watching porn and either hears or imagines the performers' inner thoughts, maybe as a mirror to her own detachment from her trauma. It's implied strongly that her maybe-ex boyfriend is sleeping with others, and we know he wants her out of the apartment. And then it just kinda ends.
 

Violentvixen

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We never find out what she was in the hospital for, but I assume violence, possible rape
Huh, I already returned my copy to the library but I could have sworn the story straight up says "assaulted" at some point. Maybe during the phone call?

A point that confirmed for me it's sexual assault is when they're sitting on the bed and her boyfriend talks about what sex was like "before" her trauma. It's hard for me to interpret that as anything but a couple trying to coach each other into feeling safe to have sex again.

Also specifically watching "couples-friendly" porn to see people having sex safely is a recovery technique I've heard of too. But she's definitely a survivor of some kind of attack that has made sex terrifying.
 

John

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Yeah, there was trauma mentioned, and she was covered in bruises. The guy Paul I think said that "maybe he moved out of the area" when the authorities didn't find anything. I guess I was looking for an explicit confirmation, but it's all on the page there.

I didn't put together that comparing sex "before" meant "before the trauma", and was thinking Before was when their relationship was new, and they were both into it. Your interpretation makes much more sense, and fits the pieces together much better.
 
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