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DuckTales! Life, hurricane, woo-oo, etc.

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Yeah, the TaleSpin episode was... bad. I figured they would make Kit into Baloo 2 (Electric Baloogaloo), but this Kit felt more like another Launchpad.
 

FelixSH

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I continued watching this, after stopping somewhere in the middle of season 2. Do I still need to spoiler this?

The scene where Scrooge and the triplets first meet Della was so beautiful and touching. I loved how Scrooge jumped at her and gave her a big hug. So sweet. But I felt so bad for Donald. He just can't get even the most little bit of peace and quite, until he can, and than that is taken away from him. I get it, he will get over it (because he is a badass), but come on. Give him a break.

I was never too much of a fan of Darkwing Duck, but I really enjoyed the sort-of backdoor pilot, including the great scene, where we get an origin scene for Negaduck.

Also love the inclusion of more obscure Ducks, like Primus von Quack. No idea if that is his English name, it's the guy who created the bunker with the gold tree seeds.


Fun Fact: Many characters have gotten their names changed, long ago. Today, they would definitely keep them, but as the comics were translated...no idea when, people seemed to think changing names was good idea. Some examples:

Scrooge McDuck - Dagobert Duck (please note, that the Mc is missing)
Flintheart Glomgold - Mac Moneysac
Magicka DeSpell - Gundel Gaukelei

Interstingly, they never changed Donalds name (and also not the names of Mickey and Goofy). Everyone also was still called Duck (except that they changed the pronounciation to how you would spell a "u" in German. I think the word "bush" has the same spelling of the "u", in case anyone is curious.

The reason for bringing that up is, that they didn't catch that Rockerduck also had a changed name (Klaas Klever). But, unlike all the other characters, his name DIDN'T get changed to his old, changed name, but was kept as Rockerduck (you know, in that Goldie episode). I assume that's because he (or more precisely, his son) never was in the original cartoon, despite being a prominent character in the Italian comics, and therefore in the "Lustige Taschenbuch" series, where they collected Duck comics of different origins. But I think they used 90 % Italian ones, which aren't the highest of quality, unfortunately. Still read a ton of them as a kid, though, it's just hard to get back to them as an adult. Which absolutely isn't the case for comics from, say, Don Rosa or Carl Barks.

Well, I'm done. I hope this excourse wasn't too boring.
 
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That’s great stuff, please post more. Those changed names are great.

Scrooge has some great names in other languages, if this site and this site are to be believed:

Dutch and German: Dagobert Duck
Estonian: Onu Robert
Finnish: Roope Ankka
French: Balthazar Picsou (glorious)
Hungarian: Dagobert McCsip
Indonesian: Paman Gober / Gober Bebek
Italian: Paperon de Paperoni
Norwegian: Skrue McDuck
Polish: Sknerus McKwacz
Portuguese: Tio Patinhas
Serbian: Baja Patak
Slovak: Stryko Drzgros
Slovene: Stric Skopušnik
Spanish: Gil Pato / Gil McPato / el tío Gilito / Patinhas McPatinhas / Rico McPato
Swedish: Joakim von Anka
 
Not sure how this penultimate episode will affect the final episode but it does tie up a few loose ends
but still managed to create a new one... sort of
. But at the same time makes me wish there was just even one more season.

The wait is maddening...

Altho "what could have been" would be a good thing to describe what's going on in and also surrounding the episode in general.

Speaking of...

 

FelixSH

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That’s great stuff, please post more. Those changed names are great.

French: Balthazar Picsou (glorious)

The other names of Scrooge are great, but you are right, this one is, indeed, pretty great.

Well, let me take a look through the characters:

Huey, Dewey and Louie - Tick, Trick und Track
Launchpad McQuack - Quack, der Bruchpilot (no actual surname, "Bruchpilot" just means a pilot who always crashes with his planes, I think they actually call him that sometimes in the original series)
Webby Vanderquack - Nicky (no surname)
Bentina Beakley - Frieda
Duckworth - Johann
Beagle Boys - Panzerknacker Bande (Some eplainations here: A "Safe", the thing were you store valuables, is called "Tresor" in German. Or, in full name, "Tresor Panzerschrank". Please note the "Panzer" in that word. "Panzerknacker" isn't technically a word, but it works as a name, and just describes them as people who "knacken einen Tresor" -> "Crack open a safe")
Ma Beagle - Oma Knack
Gyro Gearloose - Daniel Düsentrieb
Mrs. Featherby - Rita Rührig
Gladstone Gander - Gustav Gans
Gizmoduck - Krach-Bum-Ente
Fethry Duck - Dussel Duck

And, as a bonus, because I always liked Donald's superhero persona):

The Duck Avenger - Phantomias (I can't tell if you actually know this name in English, the wiki is somewhat unclear)

If there are any other names you'd like to know, feel free to ask. I think I have covered all the important ones, except for some who just kept their original name).
 

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Donald’s superhero persona doesn’t show up much in English media from what I’ve seen. The only example that jumps to mind is the video game, where he’s PK.
 

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Ugh, Amazon only has one third of the finale up. Disney has it up on their website, but when I try to stream to my TV, it's blocked. So I don't know when I'll be able to watch it :mad:
 

Daikaiju

Rated Ages 6+
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Yeah, every time i try to access the episodes via DisneyNow things get screwy. It's really annoying
 

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Compromised and just watched it on my husband's computer, which wasn't ideal but I didn't want to get spoiled.

It was really good! The one great shame of the cancellation is that we got one season focusing on each of the nephews, but not one focused on Webby. I appreciate that they managed to both finish off the Huey thread from this season and shovel in a lot of Webby stuff as well without it feeling overstuffed. I did spend the whole episode hoping that the twist wasn't going to be "Webby's been a McDuck all along," as I felt it kind of undermined the show's message a bit, but eh, there are still plenty of other characters that bring the chosen family angle home. I also really like that Donald's story ends with him leaving on a boat, just like the original show began.

Bradford's a great villain, and "adventuring is stupid and I hate it" is an amazing and goofy motivation. A bit wild that Heron's just straight-up friggin' dead now, though I love how proud she is to be betrayed. This show kind of struggled with its villains, usually de-fanging them to an absurd degree, but the finale delivered on that front. It's also great that the OG Best Villain dispatched with the new one.

Anyway, great show! I expected the world of it and it occasionally delivered, but when it did, it delivered hard. The rest of the time it was a regular ol' cartoon that's fun to watch and hilarious. I feel like the original show has a good sense of adventure but very flat characters, whereas the 2017 show has amazing characters but kind of whiffed on its adventure angle a lot of the time. Which just means that both are worth watching and great for different reasons.

Fingers crossed for the Darkwing show! I really hope it's a proper spin-off in the same continuity, as I really like this Darkwing and want to spend more time in this world. I also think it could benefit from having a much smaller cast than Ducktales did. As amazing as Ducktales 2017 is, its expansive roster meant some of the core group felt underutilized, especially Donald.
 
The one great shame of the cancellation is that we got one season focusing on each of the nephews, but not one focused on Webby. I appreciate that they managed to both finish off the Huey thread from this season and shovel in a lot of Webby stuff as well without it feeling overstuffed. I did spend the whole episode hoping that the twist wasn't going to be "Webby's been a McDuck all along," as I felt it kind of undermined the show's message a bit, but eh, there are still plenty of other characters that bring the chosen family angle home.
I was disappointed about this too. Imagine a fourth season focusing on Webby but they introduce her sisters (daughters technically?) on the first episode and also fully flesh out the FOWL/Heron/Beakley arc and relationship. Sure a lot of the time spent on May June may be repeats from what has already been done with the triplets, and to some degree Webby herself, but this will be Webby growing her own posse like Scrooge before her.

Or if so takes place after this finale at least show the subtleties of how the Scrooge Webby relationship changed from Scrooge and future secret agent partner to Scrooge and his own kid partner. Or in the least he says "Webby darling" as often as 87 did with "Darling Webbigail".


Also this was in Webby's second scene in the first episode.
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I don't particularly like they "Terry McGuinness" Webbigail but they've been building this since the first episode

Bradford's a great villain, and "adventuring is stupid and I hate it" is an amazing and goofy motivation.
I also like how he also believes "Scrooge will somehow find a way out" from being erased from existing as if he both thought long and hard about it and did not want to take chances. He also knew Scrooge will overcome "Papyrus! You shall erase any and all excitement and entertainment of past, present and future from existence" (something along those lines that won't also erase people as well) since that is something he could have done as well. .


A bit wild that Heron's just straight-up friggin' dead now, though I love how proud she is to be betrayed.

But we got genius Steelbeak back, which is the original and better version of him. With Heron around hanging around another genius is redundant.

Anyway, great show! I expected the world of it and it occasionally delivered, but when it did, it delivered hard.
Love the finale. Watched it five times straight the day after I first finished it (despite my gripe above).

However one nitpick: if the triplets were consideredl to be Scrooge's heirs being some extended family twice removed and May June are zeroxes of Webby, why can't they materialize the Papyrus?... other than having Webby making it a better story?

Also no explanation on how the Stone of What Was clones people... probably would have explained it if they had another season slash episode. At least it wasn't used for something like fusing Webby back together when something else split her into AprilMayJune like I feared before..

Finally, love Dr. Von Drake throwing some shade. "You fellas all knew that, right?"
 
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My guess is that the Stone makes imprecise clones, since Webby is a clone of Scrooge but ended up a girl, so if May and June are spun off further from Webby, they’re further away from Scrooge. That and/or Webby has spent a lot of time with Scrooge now, and Scrooge’s influence makes everyone around him more like him. As we’ve seen, the Papyrus loves dopey adventure cartoon logic like that.
 

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Now that I think about it, I like my second guess better, since the Stone making genetic copies means we can headcanon either Webby or Scrooge as trans, and I want my cartoons to be as queer as possible.
 

Zef

Find Your Reason
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I'm only aware of April, May, and June because my Mom is a big fan of them, so I had a bit of an "inherited fandom" thrill at their inclusion here.

Likewise, I've never seen Gargoyles, and can't even hum the theme song on my own, but I can sure as hell recognize it so I was laughing on the floor when that musical cue came on.

Technically I prefer Suave But Dim Steelbeak over either Dull Brute Steelbeak or Genius Steelbeak, but the latter has higher narrative potential and I can see him taking the reins of FOWL now. But I do wonder what happened with all the Eggheads after Bradford's vulturification and the other villains' exit-stage-left.

Generally loved the finale, and particularly liked linking together Scrooge and Webby this way. The triplets each embody one of Scrooge's boasts--smarter, tougher, sharper--but Webby's teamed up with, and brought forth further potential, from each of them in turn, so she mixes those traits together as well. And there's just so much (good) baggage involved in Beakley knowing the truth all along, and bringing Scrooge's daughter to him so the two of them could have a family.
 

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I've been reflecting a lot on just how delightfully cartoony the finale is. Just about every character gets damseled, then rescued, then their rescuer gets damseled, rinse and repeat for 60 minutes. Gyro going, oh, sorry, I'm here for the science standoff, you must be looking for the magic standoff. And the silly brilliance of Bradford basically rebelling against the concept of cartoons in general and the show punishing him like an angry god.
 

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Also the double-fakeout foreshadowing of Ottoman Empire’s “look, it’s our long-lost dad!”

It’s so great when a cartoon is just happy that it exists.
 

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Fingers crossed for the Darkwing show! I really hope it's a proper spin-off in the same continuity, as I really like this Darkwing and want to spend more time in this world. I also think it could benefit from having a much smaller cast than Ducktales did. As amazing as Ducktales 2017 is, its expansive roster meant some of the core group felt underutilized, especially Donald.
Unfortunately-- and watching the finale tonight has just served to piss me off more about it -- they're doing another reboot of Darkwing, unrelated to this show. At least, last I heard.

Some real monkey's paw crap there. I want more of this Darkwing (and Gosalyn!), which basically set everything up, but never really got to go anywhere with it.
 

Daikaiju

Rated Ages 6+
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Argh. Gonna have to wait till they put it on Disney+. All Disney Now has is the finale, Quack Pack, and Challenge of the Senior Junior Woodchuck.
 

Johnny Unusual

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Haha, yeah, the second he said that, I’m like, clearly that’s what’s going to happen.
Same.
Also the double-fakeout foreshadowing of Ottoman Empire’s “look, it’s our long-lost dad!”
Who was also in a box. If you describe an Ottoman in such a way.

Yeah, the finale was a lot of fun and a good send off to the show. Shame we won't get more. Also, I love Marc Evan Jackson in pretty much everything he's in and he's always great in the villain role. My words, not his.. Been watching Brooklyn Nine-Nine recently and he popped up again in that (he's been noticeably absent while being discussed a lot for the last several seasons so I've been waiting for him to appear again.)
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Bradford's a great villain, and "adventuring is stupid and I hate it" is an amazing and goofy motivation. A bit wild that Heron's just straight-up friggin' dead now, though I love how proud she is to be betrayed.
This is exactly the way I wanted the scene to play out the second we saw the hostages.
 

Daikaiju

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Finally caught up.
Bit late on this but I can’t believe they referenced the freakin’ Wuzzles.
 
I need to Launchpad a fanscript on how Manny tries to go back to living an ordinary life after he revealed to be the manhorse of the apocalypse. Obviously it is mostly about Manny putting out all the wacky evil laboratory fires (figuratively and literally) that keep happening while trying not to accidentally cause the apocalypse; probably mostly from Lil Bulb being too pushy about taking over the world.
 

Johnny Unusual

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I need to Launchpad a fanscript on how Manny tries to go back to living an ordinary life after he revealed to be the manhorse of the apocalypse. Obviously it is mostly about Manny putting out all the wacky evil laboratory fires (figuratively and literally) that keep happening while trying not to accidentally cause the apocalypse; probably mostly from Lil Bulb being too pushy about taking over the world.
Little Bulb should be voiced by Jonathan Frakes.
 
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