A Winner is You! or Let's Bite Some Heads! - A Pro Wrestling Story

I'll let those of you who know more about wrestling just who who is and what it is that they do! All I know is that it isn't worth talking about Kin Corn Karn...

Ok, onto our second match against Starman. Who I've heard tell is cool enough to get permanently etched into your skin.

As stated previously Starman is a tribute to Mil Mascaras who you can see below while he was World Champion back in 1975



Will this Luchador stand a chance against the Amazon? Not Likely!



SMACK DOWN!



So much for that!

Next Match:



Also coming next time!, A hell of a lot more pictures! You guys want wrestling and I'm sure as hell going to give it to you!

Your Mascaras trivia - he was the first wrestler to work a match while wearing a mask in MSG history. New York had several curious rules in the 70s, such as curfews and restrictions on who could buy tickets. This resulted in wrestlers such as the Destroyer working MSG sans hoods whenever they came in, but demand from hispanic fans was such that the WWWF was able to get Mascaras around the rule. He was one of the many challengers to draw a sellout in MSG during "Superstar" Billy Graham's legendary run with the title in 1977, as Graham was the first WWWF heel champion to get an extended run and fans packed arenas all over the East Coast hoping to see one of their champions unseat the man who had stolen the belt from Bruno.

Mascaras actually appeared for the WWF in the 1997 Royal Rumble, and participated in a legendarily awful match with Mick Foley on a WCW Clash of the Champions that gets a chapter in Mick's first autobiography.

Oh, and contrary to popular joke and a very similar last name, we are NOT related.

I love this LP because it's showing me the rawest possible moves of wrestling, and that is completely awesome. I am shamefully ignorant of a lot of wrestling history so discovering Mascaras is a true delight.

I like this LP, but I feel like it needs to be video with two people doing really terrible, over the top WWF-style commentary. That would be radical.

Possible, I suppose, but Killer Kahn never achieved much fame on either side of the Pacific, but even less in his native Japan.

However, if he is, then Kin Korn Karn is even lamer than originally though, because he was based on a guy who pioneered the green mist, and didn't use it in the game.

helpful visual reference

Shaved Andre's hair. That was a GIGANTIC angle.

If you don't like Jim Ross, get out.

Jim Ross is the shit. The rest go take a leap.

This. So bad.

- Eddie

I'd love to give that to you guys! But there are some problems. As I mentioned earlier I can't seem to get good output video of the game (if you have fixes please PM me). Secondly, I don't know enough to be making over the top commentary and third, I don't know anyone who does or would be willing to.

I'm sorry for failing you all!

There must be an NES emulator that allows you to record while you play. If you can get that, then you can probably get a few people doing commentary over the match?

- Eddie

My friend sent me a cap of us doing PBP at the Wrestlemania 2002 fanfest a year or so ago, and most people who've listed to it thought I did okay (I did the second one with Michael Cole, who's as smarmy a bastard as he comes across onscreen when Taz isn't around to keep him in line).

When asked how I picked up on it, I just said "I've been doing commentary in wrestling games for years."

The problem with Pro Wrestling is that it'd be kinda repetitive, although I could make some Kerry Von Erich jokes about how all of Amazon'a opponents seem to be getting counted out.

(for the origins of that incredibly obscure gag, go to historyofthewwe and look up Kerry's results for his WWF tenure. At least 90% feature him losing by countout)

Get FCEUX. I just tested it, and it worked fine for recording to AVI. Even encodes while you're playing, too!

Okay so if I can find people to do commentary on this thing. I'll give it a try! Give the people what they want and all that!

PM if you know wrestling and are interested in contributing!

I'll try and make some video this weekend

Andre the Giant is a legend and was a huge draw. That doesn't mean that everyone who had a feud with him automatically is also a legend and was a huge draw. The Undertaker is also a legend and a huge draw, this does not mean that Giant Gonzalez/El Gigante ever drew a dime.

Just once, I want the Green Mist to actually be deadly all by itself. I think Tajiri had a finisher in a Smackdown game that incorporated it into the Buzzsaw kick, but when you hit someone with it in Fire Pro they just sort of wipe their eyes and look at you funny.

Then again, that game also features guys no-selling fireballs....

Killer Kahn's career was like five times as long as El Gigante's and he was involved in lots of high-profile angles in almost every major territory with the biggest stars of his day. To equate him with a dumb freakshow like Gigante is selling him a bit short.

HOWEVER

That wasn't so much to argue that Killer Kahn was a big star for his time (he was) as much as to point out that he's clearly the inspiration for Kin Korn Karn, with his mongolian chops (named so for Killer Kahn) goofy asian hat, and all. Rikidozan was a bad guess, it's no big deal or anything!

Let us feud no more and bathe each other in our pro-wrestling love. *does that weird keijo muto gesture to signify that he is electrified by PRO WRESTLING LOVE*

speaking of me being a deplorable geek for old pro wrestling, new japan has a youtube channel now and has put up the coolest highlight vid ever

Totally not true to life! Steve Corino once advised me never to cut a babyface off with an eye rake, should I work in Japan. He explained that they sell that shit for like ten fucking minutes, and it gets really hard to get to the finish of the match.

Ok, yes it was an unfair comparison, but I was trying to make a point. I almost posted the cage match from Wrestlemania 2 between Bundy and Hogan.

But also, agreed. PRO WRESTLING LOVE!

And I totally subscribed to that NJPW youtube channel! Thanks for that link!

Okay! I got two commentators! and will begin cranking out video and sending it to them... If I can figure out how to splice their audio into the video synced then we'll really have something here!

Damn, who knew I'd learn so much playing a 20+ year old game?

Old fashion update coming today or tomorrow though... It's King Karn Korn though so who cares, right?

I had always just assumed that Kin Korn Karn was invented as an expression of good old fashioned Japan-hate-Korea racism.
At least this particular game doesn't have an A. Buchie or Coco Savege.

Here's what I do. You can't directly overlay an audio stream into an AVI per-say, so you'll need to use a program like Nandub to extract the WAV stream, then use something like Audacity to record your audio, then import the commentators' audio and finally the audio from the game recording. Then save all that as an MP3.

Back in Nandub, you can then reencode the video using MP3 audio, so you just need to set the Video to Direct Stream Copy (unless you want to reencode the video as well), then select the MP3 you created as the audio source. Save the AVI, and you now have a commentator-ladden video!

If you want to terrorise people with horrible Hogan matches, the only choices are the Andre matches.

Well, the first isn't TOO bad because it's so famous, but Main Event is awful and WMIV is even worse (probably because Andre had to save himself for walking to the ring a couple of times after that).

I have videos now of every fight up to the VGA championship and have begun uploading them to our secret commentators! If they're really cool they can dub it themselves or they can send it to me and I'll do it (somehow)

Even Kin Corn Karn gets to be experienced in wonderful fluid 2d animation!

Hm, now, I'll admit that I don't know what your plan is, but I do know that commentators do tend to play off each other during matches. Maybe you would be best if you did something like have a Skype call between all the commentators, and have all of them also record their end of the call using something like Audacity. Everyone syncs the video play and comments over the Skype call which is also being recorded by Audacity. This lets all the commentators play off each others, and you can then combine all the recorded audios in your Audacity before reinserting it into the recorded video on your end.

This is, I think, what we are doing. They two commentators are going to call each other and watch the videos and record the discussion into mp3 which I'll then be putting over the videos

Cool! Don't mind me, then.

It's funny how Korean-Japanese wrestlers have to downplay it heavy if they don't want to be heels, but when they succeed they usually end up some of the biggest stars in wrestling. Rikidozan, Riki Choshu, Akira Maeda... Maeda is especially interesting, because he's apparently some sort of weird self-hating Niho-Conservative.

I'm frothing to know who you got to do commentary.

Its a secret to everyone!