• Welcome to Talking Time's third iteration! If you would like to register for an account, or have already registered but have not yet been confirmed, please read the following:

    1. The CAPTCHA key's answer is "Percy"
    2. Once you've completed the registration process please email us from the email you used for registration at percyreghelper@gmail.com and include the username you used for registration

    Once you have completed these steps, Moderation Staff will be able to get your account approved.

He knows about timed hits! Let's play Super Mario RPG!

Back to Let's Play < 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 >
  #31  
Old 10-19-2008, 09:42 PM
Kishi Kishi is offline
Little Waves
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 27,306
Default

I would urge you to slow this down a lot, and also break it up into smaller chunks. As it is, it's awkward for your audience to comment on specific scenes, and you're coasting past a lot of the game's charming humor (the Toad guard lamenting that he left his bazooka at home; Croco saying you'd never catch him in a hundred years, then fifty years, then running out of excuses; the Shyster jumping on the Toad kid's bed with him; Mack's guards dressing down Mario; etc).

It's cool that you can beat the game in an evening, but this is a Let's Play. It won't kill us to savor it.
  #32  
Old 10-19-2008, 10:08 PM
Tanto Tanto is offline
Watch and learn
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: NoVA
Pronouns: He/him
Posts: 9,788
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kishi View Post
I would urge you to slow this down a lot, and also break it up into smaller chunks. As it is, it's awkward for your audience to comment on specific scenes, and you're coasting past a lot of the game's charming humor (the Toad guard lamenting that he left his bazooka at home; Croco saying you'd never catch him in a hundred years, then fifty years, then running out of excuses; the Shyster jumping on the Toad kid's bed with him; Mack's guards dressing down Mario; etc).
Thanks for pointing this out, because it's something I've been stewing over.

Thing is, you can't just point out these things and say "Look at this, isn't this awesome?". You have to have something to add, and I'm not sure I do. One thing I've been trying to cut down on is just repeating what's on the screen; it's redundant and lengthens the LP. I'm trying to find a balance between showing all these little gags and secrets while still keeping the LP a reasonable length...

Suggestions and ideas are welcome.
  #33  
Old 10-19-2008, 10:10 PM
Dynastic Bird Dynastic Bird is offline
Hoo?
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,098
Default

I agree; this is going way too fast. The fact that this is supposed to be once a week really reccomends you just slow it down.

Besides, I love this game. I played this through so many times it's not even funny, though I never did more than 10 times...

So much to comment on...Jesus Christ...My memories of having problems with Croco, when I didn't know about the resistance? Playing through this endlessly? Geno? Annoyed at the stupid Castle Chest? Loving the hell out of the characters and wishing that, one day, we'd get Mack in another game or something?

How about the Princess thing? FF1 made you rescue her first, and DQ1 made it optional; here you do it twice.

Or that it really led to PM's and Super Star Saga's weirdnesses (In retrospect, PM2 and it's outer space segment and the Punies were really weird; and Pirate ghosts?)?

Finding out just how easy the final boss is when you use Mallow and play with his weaknesses?

Frogfucius? The secret guy...Jeeze, there was a lot...


Edit: Actually, this feels as drawn out as FE was. Each chapter was like ten posts in that LP; now it's 30 a chapter. And now I see your post. How about limiting it to a area or two a day? I know I would dedicate a chapter to the next dungeon; it's your first real dungeon and there's a lot to see that can be easily skipped over. Besides, it has a logical breaking point. Heavens knows that there's a severe difference between the first half of the "world" and the second Rose Town half.
  #34  
Old 10-19-2008, 10:39 PM
PapillonReel PapillonReel is offline
Bug/Flying
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Edmonton, AB
Posts: 10,444
Default

Yeah, slowing it down would really improve on things, methinks - you left us with a lot to digest all in one go. The game itself is more structured around the individual events themselves rather than around the stars, so splitting them up that way would probably lead to a more natural flow. This update, for example, probably would've worked better split up into "Bowser's Keep", "Tutorial & Mallow's Coin", and "Vs. Mack" - each part feels like its own distinct chapter, and breaking it up that way would give the audience more room to breathe while still finishing with an acceptable cadence between each part.

That aside, commentary doesn't seem to be a problem - your technical knowledge of the game is astounding and I'm learning things that I didn't know before (the pattern in the level up bonuses, for example - I didn't even know it existed). I'd like to see more of the game's humour, though; a large part of the game's charm comes from the writing and characters, and focusing in more on that while keeping the top-notch technical information would round it out a bit more. You wouldn't necessarily have to comment on it all; sometimes a screenshot is all you really need.

So... yeah. Smaller updates and more Woolsey-humour plz.

Last edited by PapillonReel; 10-19-2008 at 10:51 PM. Reason: I know about timed hits.
  #35  
Old 10-19-2008, 11:03 PM
Rai Rai is online now
Bluh Bluh
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,031
Default

Yeah, there's a lot in these. Almost too much! The technical details though? Absolutely fantastic. I never knew Mario RPG had the kind of mechanics it apparently does. Color me impressed.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tanto View Post
I kind of miss those days, when I was so filled with wonder. It’s tough to surprise me these days, and I yearn for the time when even the most basic RPG tropes were cool and new to me. That’s what Bush was to me – the promise that there was something beyond heaven and earth than was dreamt of in my philosophies.
Also, this, so very very hard. I'm not sure what it is, but I've developed an incredibly cynical and critical eye towards games. So while I do feel that games are genuinely better these days, few of them enthrall me as much as exploring SR-388 did back in Metroid 2. I don't think I've ever run through a game as many times as I have Final Fantasy Adventure, and still come out enjoying it anyway. I really do miss the old days.
  #36  
Old 10-19-2008, 11:03 PM
Elfir Elfir is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 3,661
Default

I always thought the sword's name was Smithy... o_o I kinda doubt I ever beat this game.

I can't play this game on an emulator. The platformer bits are too hard to do with a keyboard and I don't remember where my PC-controller went. I might try it on the Wii sometime. (It's on there now, isn't it?)

I'm gonna have to go with the "smaller updates" vote just because I usually don't have the time to read super long updates whenever I randomly check the board.
  #37  
Old 10-19-2008, 11:19 PM
nadia nadia is offline
HellCorgieが倒せない!
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto
Posts: 6,204
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elfir View Post
I always thought the sword's name was Smithy... o_o
Very common misconception, but nope!

It surprised me when Croco used the word "bugger." I don't know its status in the US, but it's a really bad word in Commonwealth countries. Like, "Go to your room!" bad. It's not as bad as "fucker" (which, of course, is what it means), but it's not far down on the tier of swears, either.
  #38  
Old 10-19-2008, 11:25 PM
Elfir Elfir is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 3,661
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nadia View Post
It surprised me when Croco used the word "bugger." I don't know its status in the US, but it's a really bad word in Commonwealth countries. Like, "Go to your room!" bad. It's not as bad as "fucker" (which, of course, is what it means), but it's not far down on the tier of swears, either.
I don't remember what show it was, but there was some US TV show or movie or something that used the word "bugger" and when it was aired that way in the UK a bunch of people got upset over it. In the US, as far as I know, it's just a funny word and right up there with "darn". When I first heard it, I thought it was something to do with bugs. ^_^
  #39  
Old 10-19-2008, 11:41 PM
mopinks mopinks is offline
punch a fish, make a wish
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Jinbe Land
Posts: 10,857
Default

the first time I played this game, I was all the way to Nimbus Land before I figured out I could block enemy attacks with the right timing.

the second time through the game was a lot easier!
  #40  
Old 10-19-2008, 11:51 PM
PapillonReel PapillonReel is offline
Bug/Flying
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Edmonton, AB
Posts: 10,444
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mopinks View Post
the first time I played this game, I was all the way to Nimbus Land before I figured out I could block enemy attacks with the right timing.

the second time through the game was a lot easier!
You can block attacks!? D:
  #41  
Old 10-20-2008, 12:00 AM
Elfir Elfir is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 3,661
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PapillonReel View Post
You can block attacks!? D:
Yeah! Just like how you hit the button when you attack and do extra damage if you time it right, all enemy attacks have the same thing for defending against them. It's awesome. Ever since that game, I find myself hitting buttons at appropriate-looking/sounding times in the hope it'll boost my offense or defense.
  #42  
Old 10-20-2008, 12:16 AM
tungwene tungwene is offline
Mueller-mas
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Seattle
Posts: 7,254
Default

I say shorter updates as well. This update was a lot to read and they're only going to get longer if you choose to make each update revolve around a star each. Plus it would a downright shame to rush through Booster's Tower and Marrymore in one update.

I didn't know about the level up bonuses either so thanks for pointing that out.
  #43  
Old 10-20-2008, 03:59 AM
Kishi Kishi is offline
Little Waves
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 27,306
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nadia View Post
Very common misconception, but nope!

It surprised me when Croco used the word "bugger." I don't know its status in the US, but it's a really bad word in Commonwealth countries. Like, "Go to your room!" bad. It's not as bad as "fucker" (which, of course, is what it means), but it's not far down on the tier of swears, either.
In the US, it's just regarded as fanciful Brit-slang, the same as "poppycock" or "cherrio." Most people don't even know what it means.
  #44  
Old 10-20-2008, 02:27 PM
Octopus Prime Octopus Prime is offline
Mystery Contraption
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: The Great White North
Pronouns: He
Posts: 52,927
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kishi View Post
In the US, it's just regarded as fanciful Brit-slang, the same as "poppycock" or "cherrio." Most people don't even know what it means.
Which is precisely why I do all my cussing in the British tongue. I can spin a cuss enough to make a sailor blush, and still the old granny I just spoke to will still smile and laugh and compliment what a polite young man I am.
  #45  
Old 10-20-2008, 04:11 PM
Violet Violet is offline
Discordia
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: fairbanks, alaska
Pronouns: she / her
Posts: 11,014
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tanto View Post
Hidden treasure chest count: 03/39

By far the most-missed hidden treasure chest in the game, this one is just bad game design. It can only be gotten right now, at this very moment, by jumping on Toad’s head as he runs to the door, then jumping from there to an invisible platform where you can get the chest. This is completely unintuitive, is never hinted at in any way, and you never get another chance at it. Bah.
I really hated that one stupid treasure chest. I must have jumped randomly around the world for hours trying to find it, only to feel cheated when I found out where it was.
  #46  
Old 10-20-2008, 04:31 PM
Dynastic Bird Dynastic Bird is offline
Hoo?
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,098
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Octopus Prime View Post
Which is precisely why I do all my cussing in the British tongue. I can spin a cuss enough to make a sailor blush, and still the old granny I just spoke to will still smile and laugh and compliment what a polite young man I am.
You're bloody well right, you're bloody well right...how does it go?

And yeah- chalk me up for loving the technical stuff! And missing the old days of wonder...

Wait, the third star has at least 3 distinct areas. THAT'S INSANE! Not to mention that Star 3 will be sort of short, as well as #5...

Uh, anyone here fine with spoilers pre-Tanto says it?
  #47  
Old 10-20-2008, 05:47 PM
Issun Issun is offline
Ghost House Party
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sad Lesbian Capital of the World
Posts: 19,431
Default

This is a very good LP but yeah, smaller updates please.
  #48  
Old 10-21-2008, 10:20 AM
Kirin Kirin is offline
What was my other title?
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: NC
Pronouns: he/him (usually)
Posts: 22,950
Default

Also, as long as we're slowing things down, I also vote for showing some of the more entertaining Mallow enemy mind-reading shots. I have vague memories of some of them being pretty great.
  #49  
Old 10-21-2008, 11:41 AM
liquidben liquidben is offline
is on extended hiatus
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 352
Default

I have nothing to add to what's already been said, except for my own cheers! I actually have a cart for this at home still... (gathering dust with the Dreamcast, NES, SNES, the two Xboxes...)
  #50  
Old 10-22-2008, 01:21 AM
Alixsar Alixsar is offline
The Shogun of Harlem
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Harlem
Posts: 24,580
Default

I'd like to see an update explaining Geno to me. Everyone who's ever played this game LOVES Geno. Everyone who's ever played this game bitches about how it sucks that Geno will never be in any other game. I don't get it. Geno is lame. Can you explain why the hell he's so damn popular?
  #51  
Old 10-22-2008, 01:53 AM
Stiv Stiv is offline
PROF. VIDEO GAMES, PHD.
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Six feet off the floor
Posts: 3,204
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alixsar View Post
I'd like to see an update explaining Geno to me. Everyone who's ever played this game LOVES Geno. Everyone who's ever played this game bitches about how it sucks that Geno will never be in any other game. I don't get it. Geno is lame. Can you explain why the hell he's so damn popular?
Short answer: Geno is the only character in the game who does useful shit. Maybe this Let's Play will prove me wrong!
  #52  
Old 10-22-2008, 01:58 AM
Alixsar Alixsar is offline
The Shogun of Harlem
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Harlem
Posts: 24,580
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stiv View Post
Short answer: Geno is the only character in the game who does useful shit. Maybe this Let's Play will prove me wrong!
I really hope there's more to it than that. Shit, blue magic is useful but Strago is an old man with a bad haircut. It takes more than usefulness to impress me.
  #53  
Old 10-22-2008, 07:19 AM
Dynastic Bird Dynastic Bird is offline
Hoo?
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,098
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alixsar View Post
I really hope there's more to it than that. Shit, blue magic is useful but Strago is an old man with a bad haircut. It takes more than usefulness to impress me.
...I think I just realized why. It might be best to wait until you actually see him.
  #54  
Old 10-22-2008, 02:38 PM
liquidben liquidben is offline
is on extended hiatus
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 352
Default

I'm gonna go with the gun. Am I misremembering, or wasn't the little wooden boy packin' some heat?
  #55  
Old 10-22-2008, 02:42 PM
Kishi Kishi is offline
Little Waves
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 27,306
Default

He doesn't carry a gun; he shoots bullets directly out of his fingertips (and later, his entire arm). Which is even better.
  #56  
Old 10-22-2008, 02:44 PM
tungwene tungwene is offline
Mueller-mas
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Seattle
Posts: 7,254
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kishi View Post
He doesn't carry a gun; he shoots bullets directly out of his fingertips (and later, his entire arm). Which is even better.
And he shoots his whole hand(s) into enemies too.
  #57  
Old 10-22-2008, 02:46 PM
PapillonReel PapillonReel is offline
Bug/Flying
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Edmonton, AB
Posts: 10,444
Default

Don't forget that he eventually starts shooting cannon shells and stars, too! Dude's a one-man army with those arms of his.
  #58  
Old 10-22-2008, 02:47 PM
Elfir Elfir is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 3,661
Default

I think his appeal is partly that he's not Mallow.
  #59  
Old 10-22-2008, 02:53 PM
PapillonReel PapillonReel is offline
Bug/Flying
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Edmonton, AB
Posts: 10,444
Default

Speaking of which, Tanto said Mallow was the second-weakest character, right? I wonder... who does that make the weakest then?
  #60  
Old 10-22-2008, 03:15 PM
SpoonyGundam SpoonyGundam is offline
The Great
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 7,690
Default

I'm guessing Toadstool. She doesn't exactly have much as far as offense goes.
< 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 >
Top