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The Food Shopping Thread - Lost in the Supermarket

Johnny Unusual

(He/Him)
In a month and a half, hopefully, my province will move into the Green Phase and will be considered to be herd immune. I realized recently that up until the pandemic, I actually bought my produce at a downtown small time grocer and bought everything else at a supermarket across the street. When COVID hit, I only went to the supermarket to minimize my own exposure venues and I just realized I should start going back there when the time is right. Looking forward to it again.

But it got me thinking, it might be fun to discuss HOW we purchase food and maybe any weird stories while doing it. Also, tips and tricks welcome.
 

Mightyblue

aggro table, shmaggro table
(He/Him/His)
As someone who spent a decade working in a large chain grocery store (in the US), odds are pretty good that any "fresh" product you've bought in the produce/meat/etc section is likely 2-3 weeks old at a minimum by the time it hits the shelf outside things like baked-in-store items. Logistics chain is super dependent on refrigeration/freezing, and most walk-in coolers/refrigeration is kept only a few degrees above freezing.
 

Violentvixen

(She/Her)
Safeway is definitely the grocery store we've shopped at the most over the years, there are three in town and I've figured out which ones tend to have specific types of manager special things and their app often has free stuff to try from new brands which is cool. We just had a Winco open last month and it seems pretty good although mainly large corporate brands, a lot of which are ones I try to boycott.

I go to Trader Joe's, Costco and Food4Less (which I affectionately call the Used Food Store) next in the rankings I'd guess. Those are all usually for specific things. Food4Less is something I'm doing more now that they've remodeled their produce, I literally used to see worms in the produce on display before so I'd never touch any produce from there which meant I had to go to another store anyway. Multiple people have told me it's better but I'm still disturbed by previous experience. Fred Meyer and Whole Foods are at the bottom of the list, Fred Meyer is great but just about as far across town from our home/work as it could be while staying in the city limits. Whole Foods it just too weird and expensive, I tend to only go there when I need a really specific product and typically it's a vegetarian/vegan alternative for a party.

We get just about all our meat from Central Oregon Locavore, which is essentially an indoor farmer's market. The problem is that since it is so local and seasonal you can't really meal plan before you go. They're usually a separate shopping trip, then after looking at what we picked up we make a meal plan for the week. I would like to do it more often and I think we have the budget now to start buying produce and other items there as well.
 

Kirin

Summon for hire
(he/him)
My pre-covid routine was to try to get out in the morning on Saturday and hit my local farmer's market (where I'd get any produce that happened to be in season that I wanted to use, and maybe cheese, mushrooms, or other things that looked good - there's often tasty baked goods but usually kinda hella expensive - oh and I used to get crackers and pizza dough from one guy) and then I'd head to the co-op grocery for the rest of my week's food.

Covid put the kibosh on most of that, plus having my partner move in shook up a lot of my usual food ruts. We did curbside pick-up from the co-op sometimes, but also gave in to the convenience of home delivery from Whole Foods (because Prime 🤷‍♂️). More recently a Wegman's opened up semi-nearby and had interesting stuff in its fliers so we started doing curbside from there as well. They've had good stuff so I think my partner may keep doing some in person shopping there. But we'll probably get back to the local co-op some too. Getting back to the actual farmer's market would be nice, but we don't have a good track record of managing to leave the house before noon on weekends. 😅
 

Ixo

"This is not my beautiful forum!" - David Byrne
(Hi Guy)
A minimum of 95% of our groceries are from Aldi. There's just nothing else around here that comes close in price. The other 5% is specialty stuff or the weekly ad special meat market deal from Market Street.
 
Safeway is one of the bigger chains here; spent many years in college and in the East Bay giving them my patronage because they were kind of the default option/only business around most of the time. I try to avoid going there for regular groceries however, because I drink a lot of milk and their Lucerne brand tastes awful like someone added peanuts to it.

S-Mart/Smart Foods is the Central Valley grocery chain I grew up going to, and the one I still give a majority of my business to. They're like a slightly more working-class version of Safeway and I've always felt at home in their aisles versus Safeway's modern tendency to go full-gentrification. I'm very peeved with their corporate office however, the one around the block from my childhood home closed down the store in order to remodel into a Food4Less style budget-warehouse-store in the last year, despite the store doing the best sales numbers its ever done. The suits running this chain aren't the smartest people. They easily could have become what Safeway is in Northern California, but they just haven't been able to keep up.

Raley's is like an upper middle class Safeways. It is like a quarter step between Safeway's and Whole Foods. I go there from time to time when I need something specific or are driving past there on the way home. But you will generally get significantly more expensive food there, for very marginal increases in quality and I find it generally not worth it to do regular shopping there. But it's still within my upper boundaries of what's affordable.

Food4Less is, the before stated, budget-warehouse-style grocery chain here. I generally despise them for the reasons VV had experiences with them. They're definitely cheap, and if you're shopping like you live at the poverty line it can help your budget a lot. But you really end up getting what you pay for. I would go there for certain bulk items when I didn't have access to a Costco, but I'd rather find ways to trim my budget in other ways if I had to. Winco is like mildly cleaner, more corporatized version of Food4Less, focusing even more on bulk purchases. I probably would have given them a lot of business if one existed anywhere near where I live, but a 40 min roundtrip for groceries is untenable.

Trader Joes is a fun place to go to for very specific things, and I had a lot of roommates in the past whose devotion to them was cultish, so I ended up shopping there a lot when tagging along for car rides. But I find a lot of their organic brand non-perishables to be vile, and a lot of their perishable organic brand foods half a pathetic shelf life, so I mostly stick to their frozen foods, or small amounts of produce/meat I intend to use immediately. Their self-branded beers used to be some of the best value propositions you could get in booze, but they changed their supplier a while back and now I'd rather drink leftover well drinks mixed together after hours at a bar. I would go to them more often, but there isn't one anywhere near where I currently live. Also, there's something about the clientele of TJ's that's just insufferable. By far the worst mask/social distancing adherence of any place I shopped for groceries during the pandemic.

Costco is a place I adore and it's also extremely dangerous place to go shopping at if you're either hungry, or have low impulse control. What am I gonna do with 5 lbs of cheese? I'm not sure. And how exactly did I end up with $400 of groceries when all I wanted was to pick up a rotisserie chicken?

Whole Foods is a dystopian nightmare. I haven't even been inside one since Amazon brought them, but everything I hear sounds even more wretched than before. Sprouts is like the suburban soccer mom version of Whole Foods and I don't find it nearly as offensive, but it's still just as completely useless. The best version of these yuppie, over-priced, lifestyle grocery stores in my experience is Andronicos, but the one I lived next to in Berkeley closed down because apparently whoever crunches the numbers over there was really dumb.

Monterey Market in Berkeley, CA was my all-time favorite place to shop. A quaint yet expansive produce market, run by a long established Japanese-American family. They always had fantastic prices on the widest variety of locally grown produce you can imagine. Lots of really neat, obscure stuff. It was something of an institution in Berkeley. I probably wouldn't have gone to it much if I hadn't lived just a few blocks away, because finding parking there was a nightmare on account of how popular it was and how little parking they had available in that mostly residential neighborhood. When I'm in town, I drop by sometimes. They've had a lot of growing pains over the last decade with regards to trying to keep their business model profitable, and also dealing with the owners retiring and handing the business off to their kids. I hope they stick around and serve the community for years to come though. They were my go-to for produce for a long while.

Speaking of Monterey Market, I could do a whole lengthy effort post on the Japanese/Asian markets I go/have gone to. But those are very occasional these days on account of not living near any of them anymore.
 
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Kirin

Summon for hire
(he/him)
Speaking of Berkeley, most of my family lives there now, and when I'm up visiting them the go-to is always Berkeley Bowl. It's got good stuff and is actually close enough to them it'd be walkable, except not really with a significant amount of groceries.
 
Berkeley Bowl is fantastic, but I'd only ever gone there maybe once or twice because I always lived on the north side of town, and Berkeley Bowl might as well have been in San Diego for how far away it was.
 

q 3

here to eat fish and erase the universe
(they/them)
Trader Joe's has 85% dark chocolate bars for like $1.80 almost year-round, which is clearly the result of some sort of faustian pact because comparable bars anywhere else are like $2.50 on sale. I don't go there often so when I do I buy like 20-30 of them and get weird looks from the clerks
 

Johnny Unusual

(He/Him)
In my hometown, the two big chain stores are Sobey's and Atlantic Superstore (I think called "Canadian Superstore" in other regions. Which would make sense). Sobey's is generally nicer and I find the Atlantic Superstore laboriously big. And I'm sure big cities have even bigger ones but there's, like a whole middle section where instead of groceries its toys and a big pharmacy and magazines and costumes and whatnot. It takes up more than a third of the store and that third half is the middle. But it does have it beat in one area: Sobey's house brand is "Our Compliments" and with the exception of a few lucky strikes, it is almost uniformly bland knock offs. Meanwhile Superstore's house brand, President's Choice, tends to be high quality (at least for that sort of product) and things like chips will actually have interesting unique flavours.
 

Büge

Arm Candy
(she/her)
Basically what Johnny said. Sobeys and Loblaws (the company that owns the Canadian/Atlantic Superstore). There's also smaller subsidiary chains of those places like Freshco, Food Basics, No Frills, Fortinos, Zehr's, Valu-Mart, Commisso's, Foodland, etc. Some of them are pretty decent, while others are clearly the last stop for the produce trucks. Loblaws also did a merger with Shoppers Drug Mart a while back, so you find their branded goods in Shoppers food aisle.

But those are the BIG grocery stores, and this is Toronto. Sometimes I go up to The Big Carrot, a lovely organic and natural grocery, to buy things that I like. And Kylie and I are fortunate enough to live within walking distance of the St. Lawrence Market, the biggest fresh foods market in. The. Worlddddddddd, so if we're ever in the mood for something more exotic, we can usually find it there. Por ejemplo, there's a place there that sells canned hominy, so last week we made pozole and it was dee-licious.

Wait, that's a real place???
 

Violentvixen

(She/Her)
Food4Less is, the before stated, budget-warehouse-style grocery chain here. I generally despise them for the reasons VV had experiences with them. They're definitely cheap, and if you're shopping like you live at the poverty line it can help your budget a lot. But you really end up getting what you pay for. I would go there for certain bulk items when I didn't have access to a Costco, but I'd rather find ways to trim my budget in other ways if I had to. Winco is like mildly cleaner, more corporatized version of Food4Less, focusing even more on bulk purchases. I probably would have given them a lot of business if one existed anywhere near where I live, but a 40 min roundtrip for groceries is untenable.

As questionable as they are, strong agree on the bulk items. Still the best in town for me both quality and selection-wise.
 
Wait, that's a real place???
Yes? Why do I get the feeling I'm missing out on a joke here? It's a local grocery store chain that's been here in the CA Central Valley for decades.


Never would have thought to purchase boomsticks in a place called "Smart Foods" but that's America for ya.
Still feeling like I'm missing out on a joke. Not sure what you mean by 'boomsticks' - if you're talking about firearms, no you cannot purchase firearms at our grocery stores here, CA has relatively strict gun laws compared to other parts of the US. If you're talking about fireworks, those are illegal here in CA, so you definitely cannot buy them at supermarkets either.

One thing I forgot to mention about grocery shopping is Walmart/Target. Which are definitely fairly big options. But I refuse to use 'em out of principle. For starters, their selection of groceries is usually complete ass. It's a very poor substitute for actual grocery stores when they're just missing the majority of things I want at a grocery store. The quality is also highly suss, especially in the produce and meat areas. Even if certain bulk items are a lot cheaper there like 12packs of soda, I'd still rather pay a premium and support local grocery chains that generally pay and treat their workers better, and rely on unionized work.
 

Falselogic

Lapsed Threadcromancer
(they/them)
Safeway - It is union and I like that but it isn't as close as I'd like it to be and the selection is limited.

Davis Food Co-op - It is a co-op and I like that! Has a fantastic bulk section. A fantastic liquor and beer selection. It also has mostly local produce and meat! Is a little pricey

Nugget - This is a small regional chain. It gets used because it is only a block a way and you can walk to it and pick something up quick or if you forgot it.

As to how I usually do grocery shopping - I meal plan on the weekend for the following week. Then make a shopping list and only purchase what is on the list. Meals are made so that there are leftovers that are used for lunch.
 
LOL thanks for the context Yangus. That makes sense now. I'm pretty sure S-Mart predates this film, and considering where the film makers are from, I doubt they even know of our S-Marts. But who knows!

Davis Food Co-op - It is a co-op and I like that! Has a fantastic bulk section. A fantastic liquor and beer selection. It also has mostly local produce and meat! Is a little pricey

Nugget - This is a small regional chain. It gets used because it is only a block a way and you can walk to it and pick something up quick or if you forgot it.
Ayyy, I didn't know you were from Davis, False. I liked the Food Co-op, and Nugget a lot. But in my time in Davis I rarely went to either. I lived on the far west side of town on Lake Blvd so driving to either was kind of out of the way when Safeway and Albertsons (Probably now a Save Mart) were both closer to get to, and didn't have to deal with parking downtown. We used to go to Nugget a lot for their deli sandwiches though. If it's still there, I used to go to Kim's Mart downtown, because it was within better walking distance from the downtown garage and from campus. It's small and thus very limited, but it was really nice to have a little Korean market open in town for some basic Asian food need. Plus they used to have freshly made Kimbap for sale which was a cheap and delicious lifesaver many afternoons before/after classes. If I lived there now, I'd probably make more of a point to go out to Ikedas for fresh produce and all their jarred specialties and their nuts/grains, but it was both too far out of the way and a lil more expensive than a college kid's budget could afford on a regular basis.
 

Falselogic

Lapsed Threadcromancer
(they/them)
Ayyy, I didn't know you were from Davis, False. I liked the Food Co-op, and Nugget a lot. But in my time in Davis I rarely went to either. I lived on the far west side of town on Lake Blvd so driving to either was kind of out of the way when Safeway and Albertsons (Probably now a Save Mart) were both closer to get to, and didn't have to deal with parking downtown. We used to go to Nugget a lot for their deli sandwiches though. If it's still there, I used to go to Kim's Mart downtown, because it was within better walking distance from the downtown garage and from campus. It's small and thus very limited, but it was really nice to have a little Korean market open in town for some basic Asian food need. Plus they used to have freshly made Kimbap for sale which was a cheap and delicious lifesaver many afternoons before/after classes. If I lived there now, I'd probably make more of a point to go out to Ikedas for fresh produce and all their jarred specialties and their nuts/grains, but it was both too far out of the way and a lil more expensive than a college kid's budget could afford on a regular basis.
Not from here but def living here now. Kim's is still here and joined by two or three other Asian markets. I usually go to Kim's for Kewpie mayo and a few other odds and ends when I need ingredients you can't find any other place. I love Ikeda's but I usually only go there when I am craving one of their tamales or pies!
 

ThornGhost

lofi posts to relax/study to
(he/him)
Maaaaan I hate grocery shopping so. bad.

I started doing curbside pickup for the family grocery trips during the pandemic and I'm not kidding when I say that I will never willingly go back into a grocery store. The American grocery store is a monument to madness whose necessity to a functioning society allows for near unlimited excess in unfriendly consumer practices. I don't care if I don't get the brand names I request. I don't care if my produce is a bit more beat up than I would have selected. Let me order everyone on an app and get that dropped in my trunk.
 

Johnny Unusual

(He/Him)
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Man, just went into the FoodMAXX that replaced my local S-Mart to pick up some onions quick for dinner for the first time. It was like going to Joja Mart IRL. What a depressing wasteland. They didn't even have the sweet onions I wanted. Fuck you, S-Mart for doing this to this community.
 

Kirin

Summon for hire
(he/him)
Speaking of, uh, Marts, I ran into this in Myrtle Beach last weekend...

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It was closed when we got there late so I couldn't actually go in. Looked like it was half Simpsons merch but half actual (?) food items in there...
 

John

(he/him)
Similarly, I want to explore the Omega Mart next time I'm in Vegas. Part grocery store, part art exhibit, all weird. Pick up a bottle of Vegan Goat Pus that tastes strangely like lemonade, or a spray bottle of Who Told You This Was Butter? (Do Not Eat).

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ArugulaZ

Fearful asymmetry
This just in! Coke Starlight is vile! Imagine if someone smooshed graham crackers, whipped cream, and bile into your soda. (This is the zero sugar flavor. I doubt the sugar flavor is much better.)
 
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