Let's Remake Let's Play! A discussion on Reforming/Remaking the LP Rules

I think there's a number of benefits off the top of my head:

1) You're no longer asking people to go "off-forum" to view your videos. You keep people in the *thread*.
2) It puts the focus on the thread itself; this means that you should be encouraged to use the video as a jumping-off point for further discussion within a post.
3) It is great for hybrid LPs, or those that just want to "show-off cutscenes".

Assuming one makes use of Youtube, of course.

The FFT Autobattle Tournament approves of this change.

If you run a second tournament I demand you run it here in the LP forums. It's where it belongs!

I think I may have just come up with a really fun Video LP that would use audience participation and be lighthearted fun at the same time.

i already hate it.

If this can't be automated easily, I'm happy to do this myself for my own LPs, and I'd expect anyone wanting their stuff on the archive to be as well. Anyone who's finished an LP has already done a tonne of this sort of thing in the process, so what's another few hours? If I know where the images are stored (or where they will be after I provide them - I'd rather reupload them from my computer where the filenames make sense than have them scraped off imgur), I can change the tags and send it to whoever runs the archive. I don't think it makes sense to have one person doing all that for other people's LPs.

One thread per game, no queue, duplicates permitted. Why is this a problem?

Hear Hear!

Seriously.

Agreed. If it becomes a problem again we can always reinstate the queue.

I say just have a running tally of currently running/hiatus/abandoned games like we do now. I don't see it suddenly becoming a problem to keep up with. Most people aren't going to try to compete on LPs anyhow, and maybe if someone does want to do a game that's currently running, they will be able to see (or even discuss with) the other LP and try to do something different or competitive, who knows?

Look I only made my awful youtube dump channel because I didn't want to deal with the queue. And since no one from Talking Time actually looks at video LP threads it doesn't matter at all anyways.

Thanks for all the input people!

I'm going to take all of this and think on it. Draw up some new guidelines and what not and submit them to you, see where you are and then we'll go from there.

There they go. What do you guys think? My answer about the Video LPs right now is to merge them all into one big mega thread. Video LPs going forward will have their own thread as long as the follow the rules above.

Go crazy...

Pretty sure this sentence makes no sense.

Nope it doesn't. I hope it makes more sense now.

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Otherwise looks good.

So, if I understand right, my current Mega Man 3 LP would go into the megathread, but if I were to LP, say, Mega Man 4 moving forward, it would get its own thread just for Mega Man 4?

Thanks for pointing out the typo it has been fixed.

If we move forward with the changes, yes. The existing Video LP threads will be merged or locked. New video LPs will have their own thread.

Are you including Brick's thread in that distinction?

Either way, I'd say lock the old threads and leave a link to them in the first post of the Megathread?

That does include Bricks. It's all or nothing the way I see it.

I think the megathread is a really dumb idea.

I guess that all looks pretty fine, but I think
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I don't like the idea because a megathread is going to be messy as heck, but I understand why Falselogic is making the change.

I think the idea is that there should be individual threads for each new video LP, like a regular LP, but there will be a NWIOT Megathread for one-offs, similar to the current LP microthread, and hopefully a master list of youtube channels in the OP.

I think people doing video LPs should also remember two things:

1) Sometimes the video LPs are large enough that they're worth their own thread. TirMcDohl's "Roguecraft" videos are a perfect example, but I would include examples such as Brickroad's "Shiren the Wanderer" LP as well. These are games that could have spurred discussion, tips, rival videos, etc. yet neither have or had the thread to do so.

2) Some threads can handle LPing more than one game. If you're planning on doing video LPs of a string of similar games (for example, perhaps Red Silvers wants to do a string of NES Mega Man games), then it's okay if they go into one thread. I think the litmus test is, "does the title of this thread accurately describe what games are being played inside of here?"

"Snake Beats Lasers! Let's Play the NES Mega Man Games!" would be suitable if (as the title suggests) you're video LPing NES Mega Man Games. "The Disney Afternoon, as seen from Glorious Nippon" might be fine for a thread that wants to play the Disney games that Capcom made. "You have died: Let's Play Roguelikes!" might be a thread where the author demonstrates and plays through a new LP everytime he dies.

"Eddie plays vidya gams on the MeTubes!" however does not indicate at all what I'm going to be playing.

I don't know if you're still looking for feedback False, but the new rules are looking pretty good. I'd try to incorporate some of what Eddie specified about video LPs in it so there's a bit less confusion on the megathread vs. individual threads (short games that can't sustain a very long thread should probably go into the megathread while more in depth videos can get an individual thread).

The only other thing I can think of is maybe a rule for people to voluntarily put their LP on hiatus, so someone else can start up a new LP of the same game, while the author finds the time to finish their own.

One item missing from the updated rules: how long do claims last?

Also, I don't love the requirement to continue abandoned LPs in the original thread, especially since de-abandoned LPs tend to start over from scratch (e.g. Chrono Trigger).

I'm going to second this. There's not an finite amount of threads that the forum can handle; the rule isn't even really enforced anyway.

Not to mention that it's handy to be able to edit a first post into a table of contents for yourself, and it's not possible to do that if you're taking over someone's thread.