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#211
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Maybe you need to wait a little longer until your tongue thaws out?
Or maybe you should just pre-emptively reform the universe in your own image so your shadow can't. |
#212
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Hmm... Shame that we don't seem to have used the bottle or the gold coin before; or rather, I don't recall doing so successfully.
But yes, it would appear you were a touch overeager. |
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Though, I guess if you just have to save the world, I would recommend doing it before his big speech. Or as the others have suggested and wait until just the right moment. Though I would imagine that he could stop you anyway, but there don't seem to be many options. Don't forget to stab him for good measure. |
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Since shadow you has four of the seventeen Cubes of Foundation, it looks like you'll have to wait through his evil monologue before you get a chance to mess with the universe in his place. And yeah, pretending to be still paralyzed until you think you can move your tongue is probably a good idea.
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Sorry about not updating for a couple days, but, well, you might have heard about the power issues in New England, and since I'm in New England, well, yeah. But now to try and stop this shadow-prick from messing with the universe before I get a chance to. So, after waiting for my mouth to feel "full of cotton"...
>z Time passes... The freeze has worn entirely off! Your contact with the "hex" cube must have weakened it. The shadow, now as solid as a real person, performs a back flip into the tesseract, laughing triumphantly. Now glowing as brightly as the construction it made, the figure approaches the center. It dwindles in size and grows in brightness at the same time, until you are almost blinded by a light so bright it fills the world. A voice like honey and ashes speaks in your mind. "I am the All, I am the Will, I am the Power. The universe is Mine! Begone, insect!" You and all you hold dear are abolished in an instant, and the reign of the shadow begins. Your score is -99 of a possible 600, in 1182 moves. This puts you in the class of Menace to Society. Well, that didn't work so well. Evidently the problem isn't entirely that I'm being overeager. Can you guess what it is? If no one's figured it out by tomorrow, I'll just finish this off myself. 'Til next time. |
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You're waiting too long? Cut him off while he's monologuing.
(edit) alternatively, if you still have your gold box, try putting "rocky" into it (edit again) or maybe you need to be in contact with your "hex" cube |
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Cast girgol before he even starts his monologue. Ideally, from a different room. Then blorple his cubes.
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#218
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The cubes don't appear until after he's started monologuing, but it's also before he zaps you. Try girgol then. Or just physically make a grab for one.
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#219
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STAB HIM!!!
If video games have taught me anything it is that the more magic you have the less likely you are to be able to defend against a simple knife to the gut. Slice that squishy wizard open and claim that reign of terror for your own! |
#220
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If you bait him into the precaution early, then it should wear off just as the ritual is about to go off, right?
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#221
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Ooh, I like Kalir's idea. Let's give that a shot.
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#222
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Kalir has the correct solution, but let's try out some of the others first. First of all, keeping the shadow from using Rocky.
>put rocky in box When you insert the "rocky" cube into the box, there is a brief burst of light, and the decorations on the box change subtly. They now depict moles. This is an example of the box changing to represent the element of the cube placed inside. So far, we've seen water (dolphins) and earth (moles). As I've said before, I'll show off the other eleven in the bonus update. >close box Closed. >e As you leave, the "hex" cube reappears in your hand. Mocking laughter echoes around you. Castle This is the audience chamber. It is high and spacious, and every proportion and decoration is intended to highlight the throne that looms before you. The throne itself is bathed in light, but only featureless gray may be seen through the windows and skylights. Once I'm here, I wait to see his reaction once he sees that I've safely encapsulated Rocky, and... >z Time passes... "But why, you ask, am I collecting the elemental cubes? It's easy to answer. I am not powerful enough. My existence is still but a shadow of your own. My desires are unfulfilled. I wish power over all creation! I wish to remold the universe in my own image, and rule it. In such a universe, my merest whim would smash a star or slay a butterfly. You have brought me the tools of the remaking!" "Now for a small precaution." The shadow gestures, and you are frozen in place, unable to move even your littlest finger. The shadowy figure deftly takes the "rocky" cube from the gold box and sets it in the air between you, where it hangs motionless. But the box was closed! Oh, well. This isn't the correct solution, anyway. Now, for the correct solution. >e As you leave, the "hex" cube reappears in your hand. Mocking laughter echoes around you. Castle This is the audience chamber. It is high and spacious, and every proportion and decoration is intended to highlight the throne that looms before you. The throne itself is bathed in light, but only featureless gray may be seen through the windows and skylights. >get knife Taken. Around the throne a dark mist begins to coalesce. It thickens into the outline of a human figure sitting nonchalantly on the throne. You can see the ghost of a cloak and hood as well. >stab figure The shadow notices you. "You force me to take precautions." The shadow gestures, and you are frozen in place, unable to move even your littlest finger. The figure speaks. "It's been such a pleasure to follow your progress. I'm so glad I could be of assistance when you had trouble. It made me feel useful. Thank you for collecting the cubes." And since he cast the spell earlier, it'll wear off earlier, too! Now to wait for him to form the hypercube, then... >girgol As you cast the spell, the vellum scroll vanishes! All around you freezes in place! The shadow is caught in a particularly evil posture. You can tell the spell won't hold for long! Now, to become the center of the universe myself! >enter hypercube You hit your head against the construction as you attempt this feat. Why can't I do it if the shadow can!? Anyway, there must be something I can do...but what? To be continued... Puzzles: Preventing the shadow from destroying the universe and reshaping it in its own image. Inventory (annotations in italic) You are carrying: a knife the "hex" cube (when blorpled, leads to Magic Room) a sack The sack contains: a gold coin a bottle a compass rose a wrought iron key a magic burin (providing light courtesy of the Frotz spell) Spells memorized: Gnusto (permanent), Rezrov (permanent), Frotz (permanent), Espnis, Blorple, Yomin. Our score is 550 of a possible 600, in 1184 moves. This puts us in the class of Archimage. |
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Obviously this is a newer model tesseract, which can only be entered via back flip. And you thought the shadow was just showing off when he did that.
Either that or we are meant to destroy it, though that seems counter productive since I'm sure the shadow can just reassemble it. I really wish I could be more helpful in these final updates, instead of saying things that obviously won't work, but these puzzles have fried my brain and I just cannot fathom the answers anymore. |
#224
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Can you blorple the hypercube?
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#225
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Or Rezrov, open the cube and release the chaos!
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#226
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Doesn't the Tesseract need the "Hex" cube to be complete (given it's still in our inventory)? Try attaching it and then entering.
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#227
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Yomin the evil shadow; maybe it will know what to do.
Failing that, can we go back and memorize liskon, then fit into the hypercube that way? |
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Lots of suggestions for what to do here...I'll give them all a try, though. First of all, trying to complete the tesseract myself.
>put hex in hypercube You push the "hex" cube into the hypercube, where it hangs unsupported. Time resumes its forward flight. "Fool!" chortles the shadow. The shadowy figure grins evilly at the "hex" cube floating in the center of the tesseract! Cascades of light pour forth, blindingly bright, but you can still see the "hex" cube at the center. The shadow is growing more solid, no longer transparent and dark! Chortling gleefully, it prepares to jump into the hypercube! Maybe I can enter it and preempt the shadow... >enter hypercube You hit your head against the construction as you attempt this feat. The shadow, now as solid as a real person, performs a back flip into the tesseract, laughing triumphantly. Now glowing as brightly as the construction it made, the figure approaches the center. It dwindles in size and grows in brightness at the same time, until you are almost blinded by a light so bright it fills the world. A voice like honey and ashes speaks in your mind. "I am the All, I am the Will, I am the Power. The universe is Mine! Begone, insect!" You and all you hold dear are abolished in an instant, and the reign of the shadow begins. ...or not. Now, I probably can't use Droewyn's suggestion since I can't blorple anything I'm not holding, but can I take the hypercube? >get hypercube It's immobilized. Time resumes its forward flight. "Fool!" chortles the shadow. The shadowy figure deftly takes the "hex" cube from you and raising it high, thrusts it into the center of the tesseract! Cascades of light pour forth, blindingly bright, but you can still see the "hex" cube at the center. The shadow is growing more solid, no longer transparent and dark! Chortling gleefully, it prepares to jump into the hypercube! Nope. For Gerad's suggestion, I could memorize Liskon, but that would require going back through that bleeping time-travel puzzle. But then again, anything for my fans. Playing through to that point again with Liskon memorized this time, then... >liskon me You feel very funny, sort of squashed and pushed and squeezed. Your surroundings are wavering, then growing, then wavering again. The feeling vanishes, but your surroundings are ten times their former size... or is it that you are one-tenth your former size? All the remaining cubes save one, the "hex" cube, build another square, then the shadow adds its own four cubes to make a second cube of light, which hangs next to the first. >z Time passes... The shadow grabs the first cube of light, and twisting, chanting, squeezing, the cube is compressed and thrust inside the second cube. The points of the inner and outer cube connect, and it begins to tumble, seeming to twist and distort as one face, then another, presents itself to you. The figure capers madly in front of its construction, laughing and giggling. It ignores you. >girgol As you cast the spell, the vellum scroll vanishes! All around you freezes in place! The shadow is caught in a particularly evil posture. You can tell the spell won't hold for long! >put hex in hypercube You push the "hex" cube into the hypercube, where it hangs unsupported. >enter hypercube You hit your head against the construction as you attempt this feat. Time resumes its forward flight. "Fool!" chortles the shadow. The shadowy figure grins evilly at the "hex" cube floating in the center of the tesseract! Cascades of light pour forth, blindingly bright, but you can still see the "hex" cube at the center. The shadow is growing more solid, no longer transparent and dark! Chortling gleefully, it prepares to jump into the hypercube! Guess that trying to enter the darn thing myself isn't going to work. But maybe I can find out what the shadow knows? Besides, of course, what evil lurks in the hearts of men. >yomin shadow You feel your own innermost desires, petty jealousies, and unworthy thoughts magnified a thousand times. Well, that wasn't especially helpful. Come to think of it, maybe I could try backflipping into the hypercube? >backflip into hypercube I don't know the word "backflip." Well, it was worth a try. I will say that namelessentity and jovewolf, combined, are on the right track to solve this puzzle. So, does anyone else know the solution? If no one comes up with it, I'll show the correct solution tomorrow. Puzzles: Preventing the shadow from destroying the universe and reshaping it in its own image. Inventory (annotations in italic) You are carrying: a knife the "hex" cube (when blorpled, leads to Magic Room) a sack The sack contains: a gold coin a bottle a compass rose a wrought iron key a magic burin (providing light courtesy of the Frotz spell) Spells memorized: Gnusto (permanent), Rezrov (permanent), Frotz (permanent), Espnis, Blorple, Yomin. Our score is 550 of a possible 600, in 1184 moves. This puts us in the class of Archimage. |
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You put the hex cube in that then rezrov the tesseract? Or do you put the hex cube in and then stab it, destroying the cubes? My bet would be on the former.
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#230
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Or I suppose you could try to put Hex in the hypercube and then blorple it. That could be interesting.
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#231
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cleesh shadow
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I know the answer, so I won't give it. Instead, I'll point out a notable failure:
Wait one more turn before the girgol, so that the shadow has already put in the "hex" cube and is preparing to jump. > GIRGOL. TAKE HEX. Z |
#233
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Girgol and blorple hex?
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#234
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The cleesh spell isn't in this game, so I can't do that. Sorry, Mogri!
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>put hex in hypercube You push the "hex" cube into the hypercube, where it hangs unsupported. Time resumes its forward flight. "Fool!" chortles the shadow. The shadowy figure grins evilly at the "hex" cube floating in the center of the tesseract! Cascades of light pour forth, blindingly bright, but you can still see the "hex" cube at the center. The shadow is growing more solid, no longer transparent and dark! Chortling gleefully, it prepares to jump into the hypercube! >rezrov hypercube It's already open. The shadow, now as solid as a real person, performs a back flip into the tesseract, laughing triumphantly. Now glowing as brightly as the construction it made, the figure approaches the center. It dwindles in size and grows in brightness at the same time, until you are almost blinded by a light so bright it fills the world. A voice like honey and ashes speaks in your mind. "I am the All, I am the Will, I am the Power. The universe is Mine! Begone, insect!" You and all you hold dear are abolished in an instant, and the reign of the shadow begins. Well, darn. Now, for schep's suggestion which, by the way, is the correct solution, as I implied earlier. >e As you leave, the "hex" cube reappears in your hand. Mocking laughter echoes around you. Castle This is the audience chamber. It is high and spacious, and every proportion and decoration is intended to highlight the throne that looms before you. The throne itself is bathed in light, but only featureless gray may be seen through the windows and skylights. >z Time passes... Around the throne a dark mist begins to coalesce. It thickens into the outline of a human figure sitting nonchalantly on the throne. You can see the ghost of a cloak and hood as well. >kill shadow The shadow notices you. "You force me to take precautions." The shadow gestures, and you are frozen in place, unable to move even your littlest finger. The figure speaks. "It's been such a pleasure to follow your progress. I'm so glad I could be of assistance when you had trouble. It made me feel useful. Thank you for collecting the cubes." >z Time passes... Your little finger is full of pins and needles. You could move it if you wanted. The figure waves its arms in the air. Before you, rolling and tumbling in a bath of light, are four cubes. "When I gathered these and the "rocky" cube, after searching old tomes and questioning the wise about their whereabouts, I conceived my plan. I could not gather the remainder of the cubes, but to achieve my desire, they had to be brought together. Who better than you to act in my stead?" >z Time passes... Your feet and hands feel as if they've been asleep, but you can move them. "It was a simple matter to perturb the cubes I had to make your simple magics flicker or fail. I knew this would set you on a quest. For I know you well!" The four cubes disappear. The figure sits straight on its throne and removes its hood. You are looking at a shadowy, dark and transparent version of yourself! "Magic is a powerful force, the most powerful in the universe, but its exercise has its price. Each time a great mage performs a spell, some part of the power in that spell is lost in shadow. A great mage ultimately creates a shadow-self that is dimly aware." The figure grins. "You have become the most powerful wizard of all, for I, your shadow, have become very nearly as powerful as you!" >z Time passes... Your arms and legs are free, but you still cannot speak or move your head. "But why, you ask, am I collecting the elemental cubes? It's easy to answer. I am not powerful enough. My existence is still but a shadow of your own. My desires are unfulfilled. I wish power over all creation! I wish to remold the universe in my own image, and rule it. In such a universe, my merest whim would smash a star or slay a butterfly. You have brought me the tools of the remaking!" The shadowy figure deftly takes the "rocky" cube from the sack and sets it in the air between you, where it hangs motionless. >z Time passes... You feel almost thawed, but your mouth feels full of cotton. The shadowy figure deftly takes the "gusty" cube from the sack and places it next to the "rocky" cube. They disappear into a glowing line which appears between them. The shadowy figure places the "crispy" cube and the "moist" cube in the air, creating a square of glowing light. >z Time passes... The freeze has worn entirely off! Your contact with the "hex" cube must have weakened it. Four more cubes are placed above the square: the "hermy" cube, the "morty" cube, the "pants" cube and the "roivas" cube. A cube of light shimmers before you. The shadow is growing more excited, hopping around the structure to place the cubes. >z Time passes... All the remaining cubes save one, the "hex" cube, build another square, then the shadow adds its own four cubes to make a second cube of light, which hangs next to the first. >z Time passes... The shadow grabs the first cube of light, and twisting, chanting, squeezing, the cube is compressed and thrust inside the second cube. The points of the inner and outer cube connect, and it begins to tumble, seeming to twist and distort as one face, then another, presents itself to you. The figure capers madly in front of its construction, laughing and giggling. It ignores you. >z Time passes... The shadowy figure deftly takes the "hex" cube from you and raising it high, thrusts it into the center of the tesseract! Cascades of light pour forth, blindingly bright, but you can still see the "hex" cube at the center. The shadow is growing more solid, no longer transparent and dark! Chortling gleefully, it prepares to jump into the hypercube! >girgol As you cast the spell, the vellum scroll vanishes! The shadow freezes in mid-leap! You can tell the spell won't hold for long in this magically charged atmosphere! So, now to make my move! >get hex You tug and pull at the cube, trying desperately to remove it from its place in the center of the tesseract. With your last reserve of strength you free it! >blorple hex Abruptly, your surroundings shift. Magic Room Now, to go back to the castle, I guess? >e As you leave, the "hex" cube reappears in your hand. Mocking laughter echoes around you. Castle A shadowy figure in a dark cloak is here. The shadow, now as solid as a real person, performs a back flip into the tesseract. "No!" It screams. "Stop! Fool, you've destroyed me! You've destroyed everything! All my lovely plans!" Now glowing as brightly as the construction it made, the figure approaches the center. It dwindles in size and grows in brightness at the same time, until it reaches the empty center. Then you, it and all the world blink out like a spent match. Your score is -99 of a possible 600, in 1185 moves. This puts you in the class of Menace to Society. Can you guess what the problem here was? If not, I'll show the true solution tomorrow. If you can, I'll make a new post immediately. Puzzles: Preventing the shadow from destroying the universe and reshaping it in its own image. Inventory (annotations in italic) You are carrying: a knife the "hex" cube (when blorpled, leads to Magic Room) a sack The sack contains: a gold coin a bottle a compass rose a wrought iron key a magic burin (providing light courtesy of the Frotz spell) Spells memorized: Gnusto (permanent), Rezrov (permanent), Frotz (permanent), Espnis, Blorple, Yomin. Our score is -99 of a possible 600, in 1185 moves. This puts us in the class of Menace to Society. Death toll: 19 (fell to my death, trampled to death by an angry and hayfeverish ogre, gooified by an animated basalt idol, devoured by said idol, plummeted into a glacial crevasse, eaten by a roc chick, set upon and devoured by the wild beast-men of the wilderness, magic carpet crash, crushed by shrink spell wearing off, imprisoned beneath the earth by an angry Belboz, turned self into an inanimate object, torn limb from limb by a pack of grues, fried self by turning into a grue while frotzed, brutalized by the vault guards, TIME PARADOX, killed for escaping and resisting arrest, died of hypothermia in freezing water, annihilated as the shadow recreated the universe in its own image, accidentally destroyed the universe) |
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Stay in the hex cube. You'll be safe there!
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#236
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Hmm... put hex in hypercube, frotz Hex maybe? Maybe if he thinks you're helping him.
Then again he is a shadow, maybe he's part grue? frotz shadow. |
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Well, frotzing the shadow has the same effect as frotzing anything else, and putting the "hex" cube back in doesn't give you time to frotz it beforehand, so here's the correct solution. You see, as the shadow sort of implied when I removed the "hex" cube, the thing with the hypercube is that it's a representation of the universe itself, and so the "hex" cube is the core of the universe, the thing on which it's built. So removing it means that the universe is built around nothing. So there has to be something in the center. But a universe built on magic, as we've seen, could lead to another disaster like this. So let's make it more like the real universe...a universe built on money!
>put gold coin in hypercube You push the gold coin into the hypercube, where it hangs unsupported. Time resumes its forward flight. The shadow, now as solid as a real person, performs a back flip into the tesseract. "No!" It screams. "Stop! Fool, you've destroyed me! You've destroyed magic itself! All my lovely plans!" Now glowing as brightly as the construction it made, the figure approaches the center. It grows smaller and smaller, and just before it disappears, the hypercube vanishes with a pop, and the "hex" cube melts in your hand like an ice cube. You find yourself back in Belwit Square, all the guildmasters and even Belboz crowding around you. "A new age begins today," says Belboz after hearing your story. "The age of magic is ended, as it must, for as magic can confer absolute power, so it can also produce absolute evil. We may defeat this evil when it appears, but if wizardry builds it anew, we can never ultimately win. The new world will be strange, but in time it will serve us better." Your score is 600 of a possible 600, in 1184 moves. This puts you in the class of Scientist. Actually, any non-magical item will do for this. I just picked the coin because I'm a cynical bastitch. Next time...Infocom's official list of fun things to do, and conversation options! |
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*applause*
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#239
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Ah, wonderful. And that ultimate rank... Bravo, Kahran!
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Bonus Update #1!
Well, I've finished the game, so now it's time for bonus material! First off, here's Infocom's official list of fun things to do with this game.
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>up You begin to rise, but you notice that the fringe of the carpet is starting to singe and turn brown from the heat. Just as you are about to turn back, the label catches fire and burns to a crisp. You plummet into the lava and are seen no more. And with Tinsot? >up You begin to rise, but you notice that the carpet is steaming as the ice melts. You prudently return to earth. And that's why you have to go through all that crap with the gold box. Quote:
>remove label As soon as the label is removed, the carpet hits an air pocket and rolls up. There is no room for you on a rolled-up carpet. You begin to fall. You are falling towards the ground, wind whipping around you. And from here, it's splatsville. Quote:
There's a flash of light nearby, and you glimpse a horrible, multifanged creature, a look of sheer terror on its face. It charges away, gurgling in agony, tearing at its glowing fur. Just like in Sorcerer. Quote:
The only readable ones say "D.L. 1985." You are beginning to tire. Well, the first two games had author signatures, so I'm not surprised that this one does, too. Quote:
>yomin snake The serpent is almost overcome by the sheer joy of being able to writhe and stretch. And then, Snavig is the same regardless of the thing's size. [QUOTE]sleeping on the green eyed rock? Petting it? >sleep Ah, sleep! It's been a long day, and rest will do you good. You stretch out on the back of the green eyed rock and drift off, renewing your powers and refreshing your mind. Time passes as you snore blissfully. You sleep uneventfully and awake refreshed. The rock says, "You've been quiet a long time. Are you estivating?" >pet rock "Aren't I smooth?" says the rock. Quote:
"What's that? Dead animal or vegetable matter! You won't fool me! Horrible! It would ruin my complexion!" I'm guessing that bread is the same. And no, there's no way I'm playing through the entire game again to give the rock the bread. Quote:
"Oh, yum! Give it to me, please!" Quote:
>eat cube Opening your maw, you swallow the cube. Quote:
You would put your nasal cavity at great risk. >snavig ogre You become just as ugly, bellicose, and sneezy as the ogre. The ogre is even less inclined to let you by. The ogre sneezes. >smell ogre You are completely congested and can't smell a thing. This may explain why, in spite of their appalling sanitary habits, ogres are not extinct. The ogre sneezes. Quote:
(to the merchant) The merchant's eyes light up. "No doubt you wish to purchase this lovely scruffy red carpet. A wise choice!" Quote:
"Missed me! Missed me! Now you have to kiss me!" It plants a smooch on your cheek. Quote:
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What rabbit? I guess he was late for something. Quote:
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Sneffle is searching intently for flies. >yomin hoobly You get a strong feeling of torpidity. >yomin gzornenplatz You feel a strong impression of intent, careful stalking of a beetle. >yomin ardis You get a feeling of surprise and terror. >yomin orkan You get a vague impression of hunger and annoyance at being dry. >yomin eft They are hopping around so wildly it's hard to do anything with them. By the way, this was utter hell for me, since I did it at the start of the game, when almost all of my spells would fail 50% of the time. Quote:
The cube comes alive, wiggles free of the wall, and the hut collapses on top of you. Quote:
The grues look exactly as you would expect, only worse. Quote:
The grue is the most evil-tempered of all creatures. When dealing with grues, discretion and good intentions often count for nothing. To say that grues are touchy, even with their own kind, is an understatement. "Sour as a grue" is a common expression, even among the creatures themselves. You have made a fatal mistake. Quote:
This is a fairly standard cloud of orange smoke, a side effect of a certain class of teleportation spells. These spells are favored by those of a less than honest nature, as the cloud of orange smoke serves to conceal their usually hasty departures. >smell smoke It smells vaguely of orange peels, but the predominant motif is less pleasant and more acrid. Quote:
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I'd think twice before going to sleep in an ogre's cave. Phew...that was a lot of work, especially due to the rather unintuitive names I used for most of my save files and the fact that I had to restore to a lot of files where my spells would randomly fail. Next bonus update...conversation with NPCs, and the figures on the gold box. |