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The Rest of the Best - A Popularity Contest 50th Anniversary! Week Sixteen - Video Games of the 21st Century!

Kirin

Summon for hire
(he/him)
Puyo Puyo

Hell yes, this is one I totally should have put but I've barely played it on consoles so I didn't think of it in the 16-bit context. Where I did play the hell out of it was on Mac (I think System 7 or something at that point) where someone had ported a stripped-down freeware version, though it still retained the basic style including a tiny Carbunkle character. I organized dorm-room tournaments and got really good at it for a while, plus those were the days when you could just use ResEdit to get into the resource fork of a program and easily modify graphics, so I created a dozen of my own versions with different styles for the board and pieces.
 

Johnny Unusual

(He/Him)
Host: @Büge


Participants: @Daikaiju @Positronic Brain @Lokii @RT-55J @Rascally Badger @masterthes @Johnny Unusual @Kirin @Taeryn @Bulgakov @Issun @WildcatJF


49. What's This? (tie)

49. This Is Halloween (tie)

49. Why Should I Worry (tie)

48. Cell Block Tango

46. Hot Patootie - Bless My Soul (tie)

46. Heaven On Their Minds (tie)

44. One More Sleep 'Til Christmas (tie)

44. Three Bedroom House (tie)

42. Deliver Us (tie)

42. Colours Of The Wind (tie)

40. Prologue (tie)

40. Barcelona (tie)

36. Springtime For Hitler (tie)

36. I Am Africa (tie)

36. Razzle Dazzle (tie)

36. Comedy Tonight (tie)

35. Another National Anthem

33. Pictures In My Head (tie)

33. I Am A Man Of Constant Sorrow (tie)

31. Uncle Fucker (tie)

31. Do You Remember Love? (tie)

29. Movin' Right Along (tie)

29. Poor Unfortunate Souls (tie)

28. Puttin' On the Ritz

26. The Phantom Of The Opera (tie)

26. Kings of the World (tie)

25. Kiss The Girl

23. Rose's Turn (tie)

23. Mr. Cellophane (tie)

22. Sweet Transvestite

21. Alexander Hamilton

20. The Very Model Of A Modern Major General

19. Man or Muppet

18. Gaston

17. Circle of Life

16. Be Our Guest

15. Singin' In The Rain

14. Can You Picture That?

13. Part Of Your World

12. Beauty and the Beast

11. Ring Of Keys

9. I'll Make A Man Out Of You (tie)

9. One Day More (tie)

8. The Time Warp

7. The Bear Necessities

6. A Friend Like Me

5. Always Look on the Bright Side of Life

4. Pure Imagination

3. Somewhere Over The Rainbow

2. Rainbow Connection

1. Let It Go



Another one I’m a little too busy to spend a lot of time on but a rare list hosted by Büge. Always a treat and she made it a great experience. Also, everyone got confused on when the final real #1 dropped. So that’s fun.



Do you have any memories about this list to share?
 

Kirin

Summon for hire
(he/him)
Eight out of my top 10 picks made the final list, but my #1 Magic Dance from Labyrinth didn't - so I submitted it again to the recent Thunderdome, where it had a better showing making it past several rounds. I also had a Blues Bros number at #11 which didn't make it, but they just made it onto the Top Duos list! We've been doing these so long, crossovers are inevitable.
 

Baudshaw

Unfortunate doesn't begin to describe...
(he/him)
Wait, that's number 1?? Other than that, I know nothing about musical theater
 

Johnny Unusual

(He/Him)
1. The Rainbow Connection (The Muppet Movie)
2. I'd Like to Go Back There Some Day (The Muppet Movie)
3. Life's a Happy Song (The Muppets)
4. Falling Slowly (Once)
5. Always Look on the Bright Side of Life (Monty Python's Life of Brian)
6. Movin' Right Along (The Muppet Movie)
7. Pictures in my Head (The Muppets)
8. If I Only Had a Brain (The Wizard of Oz)
9. Let It Go (Frozen)
10. Singin' in the Rain (Singing in the Rain)
11. Man or Muppet (The Muppets)
12. Tonight, You Belong to Me (The Jerk)
13. Think (The Blues Brothers)
14. Uncle Fucker (South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut)
15. Jailhouse Rock (Jailhouse Rock)
16. Shake a Tail Feather (The Blues Brothers)
17. Puttin' on the Ritz (Young Frankenstein)
18. Springtime for Hitler (The Producers)
19. Somewhere Over the Rainbow (The Wizard of Oz)
20. Big Spender (Sweet Charity)
21. Mean Green Mother from Outer Space (Little Shop of Horrors)
22. When Your Mind's Made Up (Once)
23. Can You Picture That? (The Muppet Movie)
24. The Next to Last Song (Dancer in the Dark)
25. Matthew Patel's Song (Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World)

Man, I got the title for my #2 wrong. Not sure what I’d change. I’ve definitely seen more musicals since then. Oh, probably Friends on the Other Side. I don’t know if it is allowable but if I was, I would have included some Steven Universe songs.
 

Issun

Chumpy
(He/Him)
I forgot Rainbow Connection when making my list. If I had remembered, it would have been #1 on the main list.

As for what would have been on my list now that wasn't then that didn't make the top 50, this comes immediately to mind because I saw the movie fairly recently:

 

Issun

Chumpy
(He/Him)
My List:

25) Tradition (Fiddler on the Roof)
24) Consider Yourself (Oliver!)
23) Anything You Can Do (Annie Get Your Gun)
22) That's What Bilbo Baggins Hates (The Hobbit Rankin Bass version)
21) With a Little Bit of Luck (My Fair Lady)
20) Marian the Librarian (The Music Man)
19) Part of Your World (The Little Mermaid)
18) Beauty and the Beast (Beauty and the Beast)
17) Mountain Town (South Park Bigger, longer and Uncut)
16) Step in Time (Mary Poppins)
15) Hard Knock Life (Annie)
14) You Can Be As Loud As The Hell You Want (When You're Makin' Love) (Avenue Q)
13) Razzle Dazzle (Chicago 2002)
12) Poor Unfortunate Souls (The Little Mermaid)
11) La Resistance (South Park: Biger, Longer and Uncut)
10) Down Down to Goblin Town (The Hobbit Rankin Bass version)
9) Hot Patootie; Bless My Soul (Rocky Horror Picture Show)
8) Pure Imagination (Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory)
7) You Ain't Never Had A Friend Like Me (Aladdin)
6) Let it Go (Frozen)
5) Edge of Night (Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King)
4) Cell Block Tango (Chicago 2002)
3) Somewhere Over the Rainbow (The Wizard of Oz)
2) Uncle Fucker (South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut)
1) America (West Side Story)
 

Johnny Unusual

(He/Him)
Week Fourteen! Comics!

Host: @Kirin


Participants: @Rascally Badger @Purple @Tatterdemalion @Peklo @Lokii @karzac @Issun @liquid @Tegan @Octopus Prime @Daikaiju @Grignr @Rivers @ajr82 @Patrick @WildcatJF @Adrenaline @Büge @Johnny Unusual @Westerhof @conchobhar @Bulgakov



50. The Infinity Gauntlet - tie

50. Unbeatable Squirrel Girl - tie

48. The Wicked + The Divine - tie

48. Hawkeye (Matt Fraction run) - tie

47. Transmetropolitan

46. Gundam: The Origin

45. Batman (Grant Morrison run)

44. Astro City

43. DC: The New Frontier

42. Emma

41. Battle Angel Alita

39. Wandering Son - tie

39. Frank - tie

37. Saga - tie

37. Azumanga Daio - tie

36. Spider-Man (Dan Slott Run)

35. Pluto

34. Ranma 1/2

33. Mafalda

32. Ms. Marvel (G. Willow Wilson run)

31. Hellboy

30. Gunnerkrigg Court

29. Seconds

28. Asterios Polyp

26. Planetes - tie

26. Achewood - tie

25. Nextwave: Agents of HATE

24. Gotham Central

23. Cucumber Quest

22. Phoenix

21. The Mighty Thor

20. Yotsuba &

19. Maison Ikkoku

18. Buddha

16. Akira

16. The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck

14. Understanding Comics

14. The Far Side

12. Bad Machinery

12. Hark! A Vagrant!

11. Maus

10. From Hell

9. Persepolis

8. Peanuts

7. Watchmen

6. Scott Pilgrim

5. Nausicaa

4. All-Star Superman

3. Bone

2. The Sandman

1. Calvin and Hobbes



This is probably one of the most well-rounded lists I remember. I really appreciated how many different kinds of comics are represented. Strips, manga, superhero stuff, biographies, webcomics, funny animal books. It really is a great mixture of stuff. It’s actually what I like about the current list I’m doing; a nice variety. I don’t have much to say because I am RIGHT at the very end of my studies. I’m so close, ya’ll. Trust me, I’ll have a lot to say next week.
 

Baudshaw

Unfortunate doesn't begin to describe...
(he/him)
Calvin and Hobbes absolutely deserves first. Although I do think Peanuts should've been a little higher
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
I feel like if I made this list again, mine would have been entirely different

And it would be different again if I made it a year ago, or next year
 

Issun

Chumpy
(He/Him)
I mostly stand by my list today simply because I still haven't read that many comics. We all prioritize our entertainment needs differently.

I would remember Persepolis this time around, and I would also add on The Oatmeal, Cyanide & Happiness, and Perry Bible Fellowship.

1) Calvin & Hobbes
2) Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind
3) Bone
4) Watchmen
5) All Star Superman
6) Bloom County (80s not modern)
7) 8-Bit Theater
8) Akira
9) Peanuts
10) Pearls Before Swine
11) The Far Side
12) The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (Nintendo Power)
13) Super Mario Adventures (Nintendo Power)
14) Preacher
15) RPG World
 

Kirin

Summon for hire
(he/him)
Oh hey, we made it to the first list I ran. It was a lot of fun, and also an eye-opening amount of work, heh. This one in particular gave some headaches in figuring out exactly how to deal with the weird corporate-owned nature of American superhero comics. The inherent compromises resulted in several super well-known long-running heroes not making the official list at all because there wasn't much overlap between people's favorite stories/arcs/authors, but I went ahead and added in a bunch of honorable mentions that aren't seen in the list above in those cases, which included Daredevil, the Fantastic Four, and the X-Men, as well as other appearances of Spider-, Bat-, and Super- mans.
 

Kirin

Summon for hire
(he/him)
Meanwhile my own personal list included a lot of things that didn't make it, including Atomic Robo, Lupin III, and several webcomics including Girl Genius, Kill Six Billion Demons, Nimona, and Pokey the Penguin.
 

WildcatJF

Let's Pock (Art @szk_tencho)
(he / his / him)
My list is not something I immediately remember (or have on hand), but Calvin and Hobbes was my #1 then as it is still now.
 

Johnny Unusual

(He/Him)
1. Bone
2. Sandman
3. All-Star Superman
4. The Amazing Spider-Man
5. Understanding Comics
6. Dragonball (I reread the early stuff a lot)
7. Maus
8. Jonah Hex (specifically the Palmotti/Gray run. Was not surprised it didn't get in but was surprised on how it placed on my personal list)
9. Top 10 (this one has good storytelling and pushes all my fanboy buttons with tons of hidden references)
10. Criminal (I can't decide whether the 5th or 6th story is best)
11. Scott Pilgrim series
12. Lone Wolf and Cub
13. Watchmen
14. From Hell
15. Louis Riel
16. The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
17. 20th Century Boys
18. Shock SuspenStories
19. Planetary
20. Monster
21. Transmetropolitan
22. Astro City
23. 100 Bullets
24. When the Wind Blows
25. GhouLunatics series (Tales from the Crypt/Crypt of Terror, Vault of Horror and the Vault of Fear)

I think mt list would look really different now. That said, this list as is remains really solid. I still like Sandman and it would be in the list but it would fall a bit.

For some reason I didn't vote for comic strips. I think I almost wanted that to be it's own list. I wish I was less pointlessly hardheaded, though I think only Calvin and Hobbes would have made it, and it didn't need the votes, apparently.

I don't know if Jonah Hex would still make my list but I really really like it. The Palmotti/Grey run was both a return to old fashioned one-and-done anthology stories and it was great at alternating between classic western, grindhouse stories, comedies, tragic tales and weird sci-fi/fantasy. It was also good at laying out that while Hex is the protagonist and does some good things, the series brings the point home he's not a good guy, down to the fact that some stories take place after his marriage where we learn when he tried to settle down with his beloved wife, he turned into a monster until his wife just up and left him. It's a hard needle to thread to have that be the lead and not let him off the hook for his worst aspects.

I love that I have EC Comics representation on my list. I think Shock SuspenStories is the better series but I love the horror line (I put them together because they are basically the same series sold contemporaneously. Even though one horror host "owns" one of each books, they all pop up in the others. I'm curious if I'd like 100 Bullets as much (I maintain the abrupt ending is perfect, though). I definitely wouldn't have any Warren Ellis books, as him turning out to be a shit kind of ruined that.

God, I got to read more comics. I'm almost done school and have a huge pile waiting for me. Bigger than you think. It literally destroyed my end table.
 

Johnny Unusual

(He/Him)
Week Fifteen! Tabletop Games!

Host: @JBear

Participants: @pence @Kalir @Gerad @Patrick @Bulgakov @Issun @WildcatJF @Kirin @Font Sizes @Mogri @Daikaiju @Destil @Adam @Falselogic @Johnny Unusual Dracula @Taeryn



#49 (tie) Guess Who?

#49 (tie) Boss Monster

#48 Candy Land

#47 Checkers

#46 Solitaire

#45 UNO

#44 Cards Against Humanity

#43 Kingdom Builder

#42 Apples to Apples

#41 Dixit

#40 Cribbage

#39 Big Boggle

#38 Arkham Horror

#37 Space Alert

#36 BattleCON

#34 (tie) Terra Mystica

#34 (tie) Love Letter

#33 Battleship

#32 Monopoly

#31 Agricola

#30 HeroQuest

#29 Android: Netrunner

#28 Yahtzee

#27 Scattergories

#26 Pictionary

#25 The Game of LIFE

#24 Race for the Galaxy

#23 The Resistance / Avalon

#22 Power Grid

#20 (tie) Poker

#20 (tie) Betrayal at House on the Hill

#19 Go

#18 Mafia / [One Night] [Ultimate] Werewolf

#17 Coup

#16 Clue

#15 Puerto Rico

#14 Ticket to Ride

#13 Hanabi

#12 Scrabble

#11 Dominion

#10 Trivial Pursuit

#9 Carcasonne/Carcassone/Carcassonne

#8 RISK / Risk Legacy

#7 7 Wonders

#6 Codenames

#5 Settlers of Catan

#4 Pandemic / Pandemic Legacy

#3 Magic: The Gathering

#2 Dungeons & Dragons

#1 Chess



This is definitely from an era where both me and JBear had WAY too much time on our hands. It completely smacks of effort. Though JBear was the host, the gags and pictures where largely a lot of hard work. This is back from when we would spend all afternoon AND evening to hang out together. And too much money was spent probably. But people seemed to like our stupid injokes and puns. I know I did.



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Boss Monster



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Solitaire



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7 Wonders



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Settlers of Catan






 

Issun

Chumpy
(He/Him)
As much as Dracula, WildcatJF and Lokii have gone all in on their Top 50s, I think that even they would bow down to this one as the ultimate example of a TT Popularity Contest. JBear went above and beyond, and so did you as his #2 guy. Hope your burninated hands healed just fine, buddy.
 

Issun

Chumpy
(He/Him)
Also some of @Lokii's best Postin:

One thing I've always found interesting is how the visual design gets... reinterpreted isn't the right word... re-imagined maybe? every few years. It's this iconic and popular game, but Hasbro has to keep it contemporary so they update it's design.

Let's take a look!

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The first official version was published by Milton Bradley in 1949. I like the look of this thing a lot. It's not junked up with a bunch of �haracters like the later editions, plus you got a lot of old-timey candies that you don't see anymore. What the fuck is a ginger bread plum??? Also hansel and gretel here aren't saving a kingdom or anything stupid, just jaunting off to get eaten by a witch presumably.

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The game got some revisions over the next couple of decades, but the track remained the same. This one is from 1967. "Home" here has more overtly become a witch's childtrap, but otherwise it's mostly a more rendered version of the original design.

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Here's 1978's edition. You can see how they were pushing for a more realistic look. This was the version I played as a kid. The suckers here look especially nice, but I think it lacks something the more cartoonish designs had. I mean heck it says there's tree but shows cupcake... mushrooms?

These are what I think of when I think of Candyland. There's a purity in these editions that reflects the simplicity and childlike innocence of the game mechanics. They're right out of the Bobbsey Twins and that's good.

Then the 80's happened.

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In 1984 Hasbro bought Milton Bradley and totally redesigned the game. What before was a simple trapse through land made of candy, a "candy-land" if you will, became an epic quest to save the CandyLand Kingdom. Two very white very blond kids have to save the missing King Kandy (why the K?) by journeying to the candy castle where he was all along. Along the way they meet a jolly cast of characters that would come to define the game.

I don't know why Hasbro felt like Candyland needed branding, but brand away they did. These dorks would come to become the face of what was already an iconic and simple idea. God they're dorky. Look at that candy cane man chopping down candy canes with a candy cane. I don't even know. The Crooked Peanut Brittle House becomes background for "Grandma Nut" and loses the theme. A peanut is not candy! This kind of thinking is what gets kids apples in their Halloween buckets. I especially resent the idea that licorice is evil. A true black licorice is the finest candy you can choose to put in your mouth.

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This is the 1985 edition. A year later and Hasbro is already redesigning. It's pretty similar to the '84 edition, but characters have become more cartoony with softer bodies and larger heads, but they're also much more conservatively posed. Why the redesign in such a short time? Fuck if I know.

God King Kandy is an over-designed piece of shit.

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2002 saw a major redesign. The 80's version had been in play for almost twenty years. I guess they felt like a new millennium was a good opportunity for a new look. Or, more likely, that the old design had gotten stale. Every character got a total makeover, and pretty much for the better. However, they've also got the "Aughts Cereal Mascot Look" where rendering and volume shading on 2D figures can cause a weird disconnect. It's not too bad though.

There's a lot going on here. For the first time in fifty years we learn that black and chineese children might just enjoy candy too. King Kandy is still a mess, but at least he has a clear silhouette now. I don't know if Mr. Mint is out yet, but he's got a gopher because candy-cane = caddyshack. Grandma Nut is even farther removed from any semblance of candy-relation but she's got a picnic basket dog and all is forgiven? Most importantly, Plumpy has been exiled from CandyLand, never to return. This stupid plum tree has been quite the journey, hasn't it?

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2010 and everything's gone wrong. The Cereal Mascot Look is in full effect. I think those kids need to see a doctor. Mr. Mint has been usurped by The Duke of Swirl. He may be ridding a snowboard made out of neapolitan ice cream but this jerk is allllll vanilla. Up in the Ice Palace, Princess Frostine is going full Bratz. Licorice continues to get dumped on as Lord Licorice is holding A FUCKING SNAKE. At least Grandma Nut has finally gotten her act together. Miss that dog tho.

This is the absolute nadir of corporate over-design. Unappealing and lifeless at every turn. But we're not done yet.

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This is the modern version of CandyLand and I'm totally lost. Grandma's up to her old tricks again. A NUT IS NOT CANDY. Also, how did they miss the opertunity to name the space "Nana's Nutt Hut?" Mr. Mint's back as a shitty american-anime teen. Lord Licorice has gone full dreamworks while Princess Frostine is going for a Frozen. This is where we are in 2017. There's nothing good left in the land of candy.

At least those kids are dead.
 

Issun

Chumpy
(He/Him)
Oh yeah, the Dixit entry was pretty great, too. I even mentioned it when I was at the local boardgame bar with my brother and his girlfriend last month and we spotted it on the shelves.

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Patrick

Magic-User
(He/Him)
Yes, that was a great list to follow. And I think about Loki's post about Candyland every so often.

I've gotten a lot more into boardgames since then, and it seems like a lot of other Tyrants have too. I don't think anyone would want to re-do this list, since it would invite comparison to JBear & Johnny's excellent presentation. But at the same time, this list is mostly full of childhood favorites and intro boardgame type stuff, and it would be neat to see how tastes have changed over time.
 
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